Immunizations - Harmful to your Child or Not? By Dr. Aisha Hamdan

[جوري]

"The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used."
--Dr. James A. Shannon National Institutes of Health
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The same goes for soap or riding a car. But if you never desire to get clean or get somewhere then by all means!

Vaccines are NOT a cure. They are supposed means of prevention consisting of harmful and vile substances that have shown an increase in autism, auto-immune and other diseases.

There's no correlation between vaccines and autism, else how do you account for those who receive the vaccine and don't develop autism? or those who don't receive it at all then develop it? Perhaps if you have so many confounders you'd look else where for a cause instead of riding the band wagon.

I don't agree vaccines as being a 'necessity' because the 'necessity overrides prohibition' ruling is applied when something is happening/happened - not from fear that it might happen.

Such a ruling is then left to religious scholars and physicians not lay men although you always have the option to withhold.

Otherwise, Allah and His Rasul (pbuh) would have told muslims to take pork with them when they travelled for days and months through deserts in case they might face starvation.

This is apples and oranges!

No, never did shariah teach to carry on our person such a vile thing as a means of preventing death/disease.

Who says? Did Khalid not drink from the guts of camels? was not tying their mouths in anticipation of thirst a preventative measure?

Then what makes us think that we can to pour dangerous and disgusting substances into our children bodies in case they get a disease - a disease which they may never get?

What are these harmful substances you speak of? They're exactly the same as what is contracted to cause death except attenuated if live or killed. Salk or Sabine for the body's memory cells to make antibodies. Perhaps you can show me in a clear fashion how that's disgusting? using words without evidence I am afraid isn't convincing and what you're preaching here is neither Islamic nor accurate scientifically!

This doesn't even come under the arguments for using harmful drugs as a cure. It's unbelievable to see people will ignore mounting evidence of the harm vaccines can do to a child and still let them have it out of fear that he might catch a disease. And I'd rather keep my stronger feelings to myself.

Maybe if you used actual evidence people would pay attention, but you've done no such thing. You're using defunct articles, third party sources and people whose doctorate has nothing to do with the fields to assert an incorrect point!

 

[Tyrion]

They are supposed means of prevention consisting of harmful and vile substances that have shown an increase in autism, auto-immune and other diseases.

Isn't it old news that those "studies" that found those correlations were basically a huge scam? It just caused a stir because it ended up duping a bunch of celebrities and laypeople (and apparently some Muslims too...).

Here's a wiki article on it. I didn't read the whole thing, but it seems to mirror what I remember reading about it a year ago.

 

[Snowflake]

Isn't it old news that those "studies" that found those correlations were basically a huge scam? It just caused a stir because it ended up duping a bunch of celebrities and laypeople (and apparently some Muslims too...).

Here's a wiki article on it. I didn't read the whole thing, but it seems to mirror what I remember reading about it a year ago.

Studies that are damaging to Big Pharma can be withheld/withdrawn at any time ans excuses made up to their being scams.
Who would benefit from such a scam anyway? There's plenty of testimonies from parents who watched their child slip into autism following the MMR vaccination. They didn't suddenly decide their child developed autism after hearing about the studies. Any parent knows better what their child was like before and after a jab. I would rather believe a loving parents who knows their child better than shady governments any day.


More vaccines on the way...

"The world today has 6.8 billion people, that's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10-15 percent." Bill Gates

Shouldn't those services help increase population as oppose to decreasing it? So what is meant by them helping to reduce the population.

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[Qurratul Ayn]

OK, just one question; it may be out of topic but please forgive me...


In America, are vaccines being given to children without their parents' permissions, in secondary schools?

Just asking Then you can get back onto the discussion

 

[Banu_Hashim]

There was a case of recently of a girl, a Muslim girl I think, who passed away of TB because her GP didn't notice the signs early enough and then it was too late. If she had the vaccine, she would've been safe.

I don't know why TB vaccines aren't given to children nowadays.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-12159710

 

[~Zaria~]

Assalamu-alaikum,

Ahh, the big Vaccine Conspiracy continues! lol

Im tight on time atm.....so Im not able to completely engage in this discussion.

Howver, seeing that I' ve had this discussion on a previous forum that I was a member of, I have brought forward my views on this here:


The following points/ analogies have been used to explain a few important points with regards to vaccines, insha Allah:


1. Realising the Importance of Weighing Benefits vs. Risks:

Examples:

We are all aware of articles of the following nature, regarding the use of cell-phones:

Mobile phone use 'raises children's risk of brain cancer fivefold'
Alarming new research from Sweden on the effects of radiation raises fears that today's youngsters face an epidemic of the disease in later life
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ens-risk-of-brain-cancer-fivefold-937005.html

There are hundreds of sites that will support this point of view....so why, dont we all stop using cell-phones??

Is it because, despite articles such as these, we believe that:

a) These risks related to cell-phone use are not yet sufficiently proven or over-whelming significant?
b) Even if such a risk does indeed exist, its relatively small....so we are willing to continue to use this device because the benefits of it far outnumber potential harms.
c) Or perhaps, in these cases, you rely on information from the 'experts' in the field, e.g. the National Cancer Institute, that provides a far more balanced view on this topic:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones


Another example:

Did you know, that in the USA there are about 40000 deaths in car crashes every year - that suggests that if you drive for an average amount of 50 years, your chances of dying in a car are roughly 1 in 100 !!

Yet, we prefer to live with this risk, and continue to drive cars - dont we?
Why? Because we see the benefit of this form of transport, and in our minds, this far out-weighs the potential risk of an accident (even though this risk is so high!)


YET, when it comes to vaccines, we quickly go into 'conspiracy mode', should any adverse effect result.

The fact that these vaccines come with potential side effects (as with all other drugs, in fact even herbal/ 'natural remedies'), is disclosed to the public....this is not kept under-cover....read the drug inserts for yourself.

The fact that for example, the risk of developing Guillaine Barre Syndrome post vaccination is about 1 in 1 million......the studies showing this are replicated across the globe - (and no, not by the drug company/ FDA, but by hospitals and specialists in the field).

....this fact is completely ignored, and instead the 1 in a million person, who unfortunately, and by the will of Allah, develops an adverse reaction draws the most attention. Understandably, for the family involved, it would be distressing (if it is actually caused by the vaccine at all - most, not all, cases are false alarms) -

YET, this is all we seem to remember!

Lets look at a few more Risk from disease vs. Risk from Vaccine Stats:

DISEASE
Measles
Pneumonia: 6 in 100
Encephalitis: 1 in 1,000
Death: 2 in 1,000

Rubella
Congenital Rubella Syndrome: 1 in 4 (if woman becomes infected early in pregnancy)

VACCINES
MMR
Encephalitis or severe allergic reaction:
1 in 1,000,000


Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis vs. DTap Vaccine
DISEASE
Diphtheria
Death: 1 in 20

Tetanus
Death: 2 in 10

Pertussis
Pneumonia: 1 in 8
Encephalitis: 1 in 20
Death: 1 in 1,500

VACCINES
DTaP
Continuous crying, then full recovery: 1 in 1000
Convulsions or shock, then full recovery: 1 in 14,000
Acute encephalopathy: 0-10.5 in 1,000,000
Death: None proven


How hypocritical to casually disregard the enormous benefits of these agents (Or is that we are so convinced that there must be a conspiracy based on the few, random, and often unproven cases of adverse reactions!)

Do we forget though, that before the widespread use of measles vaccine, its incidence was so high that infection with measles was felt to be "as inevitable as death and taxes."!

Do we forget these sort of statistics??

2. Know where to find your information from.


If I perform a google/ youtube search on 'islam' or 'prophet muhammed (sallahu alaihi wasalam)' - how many conflicting, and often blasphemous sites will I find?

So, what will the chances be of anyone basing their complete 'research' on this methodolgy, actually finding imaan?
Not very good, if you consider just how many 'convincing' anti-islamic sites are!

The same goes for this topic. For every 'anti-vaccine' website, which is backed by very little evidential support....I can find you similiar, if not more 'pro-vaccine' sites - based on actual studies.
With regards to the 'squalene' controversy, you may wish to refer to the article below, which discusses everything you could possibly wish to know, without concealing the negatives:

http://0-www.sciencedirect.com.inno...af9897fa817/1-s2.0-S0264410X08003861-main.pdf


You see, its very easy to sit behind our laptops, in the comfort of our homes, and do 'research' on such topics.
But the cruel reality of the situation is that people like myself, and many other medical professionals are actual first-hand witnesses to patients such as these:


Requiring intubation and ventilation for proven H1N1-related pneumonias

We have seen the devastating, and lifelong crippling nature of polio, such as this:

And we have treated patients during the recent outbreak of measles, who look similiar to this....often with little success (esp. if in adults):

And YET, we fail to see this flood of 'victims of vaccines'....which, undoubtedly, we should be witnessing by now, considering the millions of vaccinated people around the world!



3. Everything in life was developed by trial and error:

How many attempts did it take Thomas Edison to create the light bulb?
How many attempts did it take Henry Ford to develop the first car?

Do you not realise that all forms of science and technology, depends to an extent on trial and error?
Why would this be different in medicine?

Of course, because human lives are involved, all drugs undergo extensive trials - first animal based....and then human trials - before being actually released for public consumption.
And these trials are not conducted exclusively by the drug company - by phase 3 trials, they are conducted at multiple independant hospitals.
If any significant side effects are recognised (and these can not be hidden from practioners world-wide), they are withdrawn from the market.


At the end of the day, its an individual decision.

Make your own choice, based on the information that you wish to believe....just dont embark on smear campaigns, without providing everyone ALL the facts - there's always 2 sides to every story.

For myself, I'll take my <1% of something seriously going wrong (and thats an over-estimate), and raise you the > 30% mortality on measles (underestimate)!

All the best now.

:wa:

 

[جوري]

Couple of things that people who opt out don't realize are.
1- Doctors especially in the west don't recognize end stage dz. as a result of missing a particular vaccine.
consider that all doctors of my generation have never seen small pox except in pictures because there was an excellent elimination program... Now we're seeing rare ramifications of such things like the measles for instance Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE)from folks who opt out.
2- Viruses don't have a cure if you think well it is ok to get this and build immunity the natural way.. Just ask AIDS and HEP C patients or even those with the common cold if they would jump on a preventative vaccine..

Doctors can't force you to receive treatment, or preventative measures if it is not a life threatening situation. But do know that most if not all schools public and private require an up to date immunization record. So you'll isolate your kids as the only option left is home schooling and isolate them on the playground as kids are a walking garden of diseases. You might as well lock them in the basement.

 

[Scimitar]

I can't believe H1N1 was mentioned here...

Here is the deal about H1N1... entirely manufactured!

...interesting isn't it?

The only vaccine I had was at birth. By early school, my father made it very clear that I was NOT to be given vaccines, and I wasn't... then again in Secondary school, when the vaccinations were being given out, I got away without even a shot.

When peeps get flu's and colds, they last weeks, maybe even a month sometimes... (maybe longer in other cases) but me? I'm dandy in two days flat. My immune system? my Doctor says it works better than anyone he knows... Alhamdulillah

Food for thought there I tell you.

Scimi

 

[~Zaria~]

Assalamu-alaikum,

Brother Scimi,

JazakAllah khair for your input.

Im afraid that I need a lot more evidence proving that this strain of E-coli/ H1N1 or any virus/ bacteria for that matter was genetically created.....

A documentary/ interview does not suffice.

'Perhaps'/ 'maybe'/ 'we think' does not suffice.

There are reasons why bacteria become drug-resistant......most commonly because of the inappropiate use of antibiotics.

For those on the ground, who are/have treated people with these conditions, and have witnessed loss of lives from proven, cultured viruses/ bacteria - we have a different story to tell.

At the end of the day, we only want whats best for the person facing morbidity and death, seeking the help of Allah (subhanawataála).

In short theres just too many stories.
Too many conspiracies.
And I fear we are becoming a threat onto ourselves.

Remember:

Qur'an 49:12
' O ye who believe! avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin.....'

I dont mind those who say that they have chosen not to vaccinate themselves/ their family members.
Thats your choice, Alhamdulillah.

I do mind spreading knowledge based on incomplete evidence, suspicion and in many cases falsehoods.
Without taking into account the potential harmful effects that this can have on others.

This is all that we are saying.

To the anti-vacciners - to you, your way.

Or else, come back with some evidence thats worthy of a discussion, insha Allah.

We have nothing to hide, and no one to protect.
As Allah is my witness, my intentions are sincere here.


:wa:

 

[Scimitar]

Assalamu-alaikum,

Brother Scimi,

JazakAllah khair for your input.

Im afraid that I need a lot more evidence proving that this strain of E-coli/ H1N1 or any virus/ bacteria for that matter was genetically created.....

A documentary/ interview does not suffice.

'Perhaps'/ 'maybe'/ 'we think' does not suffice.

Walakum salaam sis Zaria, I see that you need evidential proofs, and there is nothing wrong with that - but really now, you know sis Zaria, that this info will not be made public fact til 30 yrs have elapsed... by which time you'll all be scratching your heads thinking "what a world we live in".

AS if we don't say that enough already. These are times of deception, and calling something a conspiracy theory when in fact, the evidences surface throughout western medicines dark history, is really a futility not worth banking on.

So, if we are looking for proofs that the mutinaitonal pharmas are hoodwinking us - we'd be waiting a LOOOONG time. Don't be so innocent about these things.

You gotta ask yourself, how comes Americans are so fat? Just look at what they give their babies - it's plain wrong. obesity is a desease that is sold on the pharma market. Along with everything else that is not good for you. I care not what the Doctors say here, all I know is, vaccinations for babies show absolutely no faith in Allah - and I have a massive problem with that.

I just wanna ask you all a question. "when you was last vaccinated, did you say "bismillah" before the needle went in?"

Scimi

EDIT: wikileaks, it's all there... you want proof? go find it.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

^^^I’ve posted documentary that specifically explain why Americans and the west are so fat! Immunisations have nothing to do with it!

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-...tment-vs-alternative-natural-treatment-5.html

 

[Abz2000]

sometimes it's useful to look at the possible link and reflect on it,
not just go by pharmaceutical company funded medical journals,

and when you have criminals like rockefeller, who on the one hand own the biggest pharma companies on the planet, with their "invincible" lobbying power, and the fact that they push for population reduction - it's definitely a bad mix.

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

David Rockefeller memoirs - Ch. 27 : Proud Internationalist, p. 406

 

[Snowflake]

Infectious disease spreads when disease control is compromised. If a person is kept in isolation and hygiene is practiced, then we wouldn't have epidemics or the need for mass immunization. Amazingly, we have more diseases since science intervened.

 

[Scimitar]

How about this red tape ??

here are a few examples of the futility in trying to get "PROOFS" sis Zaria.

A powerful tool that allows ordinary citizens to obtain crucial information from government archives, the US Department of State (DOA) Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is under attack. ​

The Daily Caller reports that the US Justice Department wants to revise the law to allow government officials to lie about, or conceal the very existence of, records that it does not wish to release publicly.

But the new rule would allow officials to not only conceal the information, but also to blatantly lie about it. In other words, when the federal government wants to keep certain dirty little secrets under wraps, even "secrets" not protected by the exemption, it will simply be able to tell those requesting such information that it does not exist.

"(The rule) will dramatically undermine government integrity by allowing a law designed to provide public access to government information to be twisted to permit federal law enforcement agencies to actively lie to the American people," said the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), and OpenTheGovernment.org, in a joint public:

Here is the PDF for you to chase at your own leisure: ​

http://www.openthegovernment.org/sites/default/files/FOIA 552c Comment - 10-19-11 - FINAL.pdf

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034066_FOIA_Justice_Department.html#ixzz1yjovIcah​

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034066_FOIA_Justice_Department.html#ixzz1yjoepJ6r

How about another exposee?

How about one that you called a conspiracy sis Zaria? what if I can prove this by providing some evidences that will clear up any doubts you have? fair game?

Ok... let's do this:

remember this video?

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The latest batch of diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks reveals what can only be characterized as a U.S.-led conspiracy to force GMOs onto European countries by making those countries pay a steep price if they resist.

The cable reveals the words of ​

Craig Stapleton, the US ambassador to France, who was pushing the commercial interests of the biotech industry by attempting to force GMOs into France. In his own words (below), he expresses his frustration with the idea that France might pass environmental laws that would hamper the expansion of GMOs:

"Europe is moving backwards not forwards on this issue with France playing a leading role, along with Austria, Italy and even the [European] Commission... Moving to retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to EU interests and could help strengthen European pro-biotech voice."

Got that so far? His own words: "Retaliation" as a way to "make [it] clear" that resisting GMOs will have a price.

Stapleton goes on to say something rather incredible:

"Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an early victory..."

As you read these words again, remember that these are the words of the U.S. ambassador to France who is suggesting the US "calibrate a target retaliation list" in order to "cause some pain across the EU" that must be "sustainable over the long term."

The global GMO conspiracy is no longer a theory

Need we say anything more? This cable proves, once and for all, that there is a global GMO conspiracy where government operatives work in secret to push Monsanto's GMO agenda while punishing opponents of GMOs and adding them to a "target retaliation list."

This cable also proves that NaturalNews has been right all along about the GMO conspiracy, and that GMO opponents such as Jeffrey Smith are battling what can only be called an evil conspiracy to control the world's food supply. It also proves that when Alex Jones talks about the global conspiracy to control the world food supply, he's not just ranting. He's warning about the reality of the world in which we now live.

As Jeffery Smith said today in a Democracy Now interview:

"We’ve been saying for years that the United States government is joined at the hip with Monsanto and pushing GMOs as part of Monsanto’s agenda on the rest of the world. This lays bare the mechanics of that effort. We have Craig Stapleton, the former ambassador to France, specifically asking the U.S. government to retaliate and cause some harm throughout the European Union." (http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2010/12/23/wikileaks_cables_reveal_us...)

Military terms

Do you notice something about these words used by the US ambassador to France? "Calibrate a target retaliation list" sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it? It's the kind of language you might find tossed around in a military bombing war exercise.

That's no coincidence: These government operatives quite literally consider themselves to be at war with the world, and they intend to conquer the world with their genetically modified poisons. They will do anything, it seems, to force-feed their deadly crops to the public.

Eight important realizations from these leaks

This Wikileaks cable brings up all sorts of issues that each might deserve a separate article, but here are the highlights of what comes to my mind on this issue:

Realization #1) Wikileaks is valuable for exposing the government lies in our world. Without Wikileaks, we never would have known about these cables which prove the existence of this GMO conspiracy.

Realization #2) US government diplomatic officials are working for the corporations! It's just as we've described here on NaturalNews numerous times -- Big Government is really just an extension of the most evil and most powerful corporations that now dominate our planet: The drug companies, the weapons manufacturers, the agricultural giants and so on. Here's what Jeffrey Smith had to say about governments conspiring with Monsanto:

"In 2009, we have a cable from the ambassador to Spain from the United States asking for intervention there, asking the government to help formulate a biotech strategy and support the government -- members of the government in Spain that want to promote GMOs, as well. And here, they specifically indicate that they sat with the director of Monsanto for the region and got briefed by him about the politics of the region and created strategies with him to promote the GMO agenda."

Realization #3) The US is willing to retaliate against European countries if they try to block GMOs. This brings up the question: Why is the US so desperate to push GMOs on Europe? Clearly there is another agenda behind all this (maybe we'll learn more in future Wikileaks releases).

Realization #4) No wonder the US government has declared war on Wikileaks because these dark secrets and "conspiracy notes" are never made public through any normal means. It takes a whistleblower to expose the true government corruption taking place in our world today.

Realization #5) The GMO conspiracy reaches to the highest levels of global control. This US ambassador Stapleton wasn't just a nobody. He was, in fact, the co-owner of the Texas Rangers with former President George W. Bush! His wife, by the way, is George Bush's cousin. This is a conspiracy involving the highest-ranking officials across multiple countries who are pushing a GMO agenda that's poisoning people across the planet.

Realization #6) Governments are literally trying to kill their own people. It is widely known in the inner circles of power that GMOs are deadly, but governments keep pushing them anyway. As Jeffrey Smith explains in his interview with Democracy Now:

"...the person who was in charge of FDA policy in 1992, Monsanto’s former attorney, Michael Taylor, he allowed GMOs on the market without any safety studies and without labeling, and the policy claimed that the agency was not aware of any information showing that GMOs were significantly different. Seven years later, because of a lawsuit, 44,000 secret internal FDA memos revealed that that policy was a lie. Not only were the scientists at the FDA aware that GMOs were different, they had warned repeatedly that they might create allergies, toxins, new diseases and nutritional problems. But they were ignored, and their warnings were even denied, and the policy went forth allowing the deployment GMOs into the food supply with virtually no safety studies."

Realization #7) The GMO conspiracy is always reframed as "science". At one point in the leaked cables, Stapleton warns that in opposing GMOs, France would "roll back established science-based decision making." The GMO conspiracy, you have to remember, is always hidden behind the term "science" so that anyone who opposes GMOs can be characterized as being somehow against "scientific thinking."

All this gives science a bad name, of course, but I suppose that since the history of science is filled with arrogant scientists poisoning people in the name of science (mercury, vaccines, radiation, plastics, medications, etc.), we shouldn't be all that surprised to observe this.

Realization #8) Spain has been a key co-conspirator to push the U.S. GMO agenda. Much of the conspiring taking place in the EU has been spearheaded by Spain, whose officials met personally with the head of Monsanto to plot their push of GMOs into Europe.

All of a sudden the Blackwater story adds up

This all reminds me of a story published a few months back by The Nation in which Jeremy Scahill exposed a link between Monsanto and the military contractor known as Blackwater. His article claimed that Monsanto had hired Blackwater spies to "infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm." (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/disney-monsanto-discovered-blackwa...)

Monsanto vehemently denied the allegation. I looked hard at covering that story at the time but could not substantiate the accusations to my satisfaction. However, given the new information gleaned from these leaked diplomatic cables -- which blatantly state that the GMO conspirators plan to "calibrate a target retaliation list" -- all of a sudden the Blackwater story adds up.

This is the verbage of a military-style retaliation campaign, and that's exactly the business of Blackwater. Remember how Stapleton said the US needed to "cause some pain?" That's Blackwater's calling card!

Although these cables don't prove any connection between Monsanto and Blackwater, they do lend credence to the idea that such a link is not only possibly, but perhaps even probable. It clearly deserves additional investigation.

Regardless of whether the Blackwater / Monsanto link is ever proven, what's crystal clear from all this is that the global GMO conspiracy is very real and that GMO conspirators plot retaliatory actions against any nation that refuses to allow GMOs into their country.

The whole thing is then disguised as "science" so that anyone who opposes it can be branded as "non-scientific." This is the same sick way in which vaccines are pushed, too: They're called "scientific" even when they're based entirely on scientific fraud (as are GMOs).

How governments really operate

Above all, what these Wikileaks cables really reveal is that government conspiracies are, of course, not only real but that they are taking place right now. Diplomats and ambassadors are, in effect, government thugs who engage in the most unethical actions, full of threats and retaliation, in order to serve the financial interests of their corporate masters.

That's how the world really works, despite the Disney-like image portrayed by the mainstream media. Behind the scenes, the U.S. government is literally plotting with Monsanto to take over the world's food supply. That is not an exaggeration. It's not conjecture. It is a statement of fact based on the words of the government's own operatives (who obviously didn't know their words would ever be made public).

Through Wikileaks, we have been given a glimpse into the truth behind the Great Wall of government lies. And that truth, it turns out, is a lot uglier than most people could have imagined. (It's no surprise to me, because I've seen things that most regular people have never witnessed. But to a regular Joe Blow working his J.O.B. and watching the evening news, the hard-core truth about the world is a bit too much to handle...)

Personally, I can't wait to see what other dark secrets are buried in these Wikileaks cables. And it all makes me wish we had a Wikileaks for the FDA, too. Can you imagine all the dirty secrets that would come out of the FDA's offices if we could read their emails? We need an FDA leaker.

The other thought that comes to mind is how much I wouldn't want to be Julian Assange right now. His head is now the world's most powerful bullet magnet... especially when government rifles are anywhere nearby. If the U.S. government would conspire to create a "retaliation target list" of nations that are merely resisting GMOs, can you imagine what they will do if they ever get their hands on Assange?

Read the leaked cables right here:
http://213.251.145.96/cable/2008/02/08MADRID98.html

and

http://213.251.145.96/cable/2009/05/09MADRID482.html

(Note: These links may not be active for very long because the governments of the world are obviously trying to shut down all the websites that post this information. The truth, it seems, is just too dangerous to allow it to be openly published.)

How to turn all this around

Don't let all this get you down. You can take action to help turn this around!

Action Item #1) Don't buy GMO foods! Look for the non-GMO "Project Verified" label on foods.

Action Item #2) Urge lawmakers to oppose GMOs or require honest GMO labeling of foods.

Action Item #3) Help support the Institute for Responsible Technology and other non-profits working to oppose GMOs.

Action Item #4) Stay informed! Read NaturalNews and our Facebook GMO Dangers page (www.**************GMO.dangers) to stay up on this issue. The IRT (above) will keep you even more deeply informed on GMOs.

Action Item #5) Share what you know! Share videos, cartoons, articles and websites with your friends and family members who also care about protecting their health from GMOs.

Action Item #6) Don't trust the government! They are pushing a GMO conspiracy. They don't want you to have natural food, and the FDA is now being unleashed under the new food safety bill to destroy small farmers who tend to use non-GMO crops. Fight against government encroachment of our natural right to grow honest food. Support food freedom!

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English: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnN6FFjZBZQ
Chinese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz9sNRdu5ek
Spanish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mit-oZ4QPjI
Polish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2FLUR0yqYM


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030828_GMOs_Wikileaks.html#ixzz1yjpzVwa6

Oh there's a lot more, you just have to "look". Oh and sis Zaria, it's only a conspiracy theory if you are unaware of the "facts"

Scimi

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

sometimes it's useful to look at the possible link and reflect on it,
not just go by pharmaceutical company funded medical journals,

Such medical journals would be seen conflicts of interest and wouldnt be published. Just like Andrew Jeremy Wakefield had multiple undeclared conflicts of interest , had manipulated the evidence and had broken other ethical codes in his research that claims to link MMR and Autism.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Infectious disease spreads when disease control is compromised. If a person is kept in isolation and hygiene is practiced, then we wouldn't have epidemics or the need for mass immunization. Amazingly, we have more diseases since science intervened.

How can a person be kept in "isolation"? We have to go outside some point in our lives. We have also seen decrease in some diseases. And how can you link these "more" diseases with science? Does our lifestyle not play a part in such increase? We eat more food especially fatty foods, we have more food available and we exercise less. We use cars to take us to places where as before we didnt. Children watch Tvs and play games rather than playing outside.

 

[Abz2000]

Such medical journals would be seen conflicts of interest and wouldnt be published. Just like Andrew Jeremy Wakefield had multiple undeclared conflicts of interest , had manipulated the evidence and had broken other ethical codes in his research that claims to link MMR and Autism.

Andrew Wakefield was picked out due to the effect he had and his character was assasinated and ethics questioned, by the very type of people who VIED for nazi scientists after WW2, scientists who had done gut wrenching tests on human beings and even killing them.

If you want proof of how corrupt medical publishing has become – read on. A long list of citations of medical journal papers claimed to be evidence vaccines are safe and do not cause autistic conditions has been posted on the blog of Seth Mnookin.
Mnookin, a journalist, vaccine/autism denialist and author of an anti-vaccine-safety book “The Panic Virus”, refuses to answer CHS’ challenge [here] about and remains silent in response to the following documented public facts.
But firstly, do vaccines cause autistic conditions? If you read nothing else we strongly recommend you read this PDF Download:– Text of email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News]. In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/unsafe-vaccines-corruption-fraud-in-medical-journal-publishing/


to claim that they really care about conflicts of interest is like saying, it's a conspiracy theory to say that dick cheney was the chairman of halliburton before he decided to stand for vp, and bush and his father were owners of various oil and partners in arms companies as part of the carlyle group cartel which made billions on the iraq war, or that donald rumsfeld was the chairman of gilead sciences which developed tamiflu, while the company was pushing governments all over the world to stock up on it because of a "predicted" outbreak in the near future.
(diplomats understand subtle threats better then we laymen, they often look into the past of the person making the statement to see it's likelihood).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...controversial-links-drug-company-Tamiflu.html

 

[cOsMiCiNtUiTiOn]

Do we forget though, that before the widespread use of measles vaccine, its incidence was so high that infection with measles was felt to be "as inevitable as death and taxes."!

Do we forget these sort of statistics??

Here's where one of the huge problems is. Why only show from 1944 until now? What happened before The vaccine was intoduced?

This is what you showed us, and what is thought in medical school as far as I know.

yet, based on statistics which include statistics from before 1944, measles was already on the decline by the time vaccinations were enforced.

Same goes for other viruses

The decline in viruses cannot be attributed to vaccines. the question then becomes, why such a push for vaccines, who actually benefits?

Let's look at smallpox. Did the vaccine actually lessen smallpox deaths? Looks like vaccinated and unvaccinated deaths are pretty much the same...

Here's a comparison taken place in the later 1800's early 1900's, compare the fatality rates of unvaccinated vs the vaccinated.

I would like people to pay special attention to the money involved here. Brother Abz2000 mentioned the rockerfeller family..... bankers.

There's plenty of legit information out there, from MD's themselves as well, one just has to have patience to read through it. here's a good place to start http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/, there's much more to it than just a couple of websites.

Those of you who are in the medical field, don't take this personal. I've never met a medical student or pharmacist with ill intentions, most of them dedicate their lives to this in order to help the sick, that is commendable. They are sincere, but not necessarily right. The evil here is the people who drive the education, the information being thought to medical students is flawed and driven by money. Those of us who take time to understand both sides of the issue shouldn't be labeled as irresponsible or biased. I wouldn't make such a huge decision to no vaccinate my children just because of some lame article floating on the internet, this has taken YEARS to understand. It's not some hasty spur-of-the-moment decision.

- cOsMiC

 

[Abz2000]

Donald Rumsfeld's controversial links to drug company behind Tamiflu


The drug company behind the swine flu medicine Tamiflu is at the centre of controversy over its links to former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.


Mr Rumsfeld, a former chairman of the company, has refused to comment on whether he still holds shares in Californian firm Gilead Sciences, which developed the drug now being desperately stockpiled by governments around the world to combat the threatened pandemic.


Mr Rumsfeld has previously been accused of a potential conflict of interest over his links to Gilead Sciences, which sold the licensing rights for the medicine to Swiss giant Hoffman-La Roche in 1996. ...




.....Under the terms of the deal Gilead, headed by Mr Rumsfeld between 1997 and 2001, still receives between 14 and 22 per cent of the income from the wholesale trade in the drug, depending on the volume of sales.
Four years ago the value of Mr Rumsfeld’s shares in Gilead Sciences saw a huge hike from an estimated £3million to an estimated £17million over the avian flu scare.


It was partially sparked by a warning from President Bush’s top health adviser Mike Leavitt that a pandemic could cause nearly two million deaths in the US alone.


When details of Mr Rumsfeld’s shareholding became public he consulted a lawyer who advised him to keep the stock but excuse himself from any government decisions involving the flu drug.


He issued a document explaining the situation.
Some months later the Pentagon ordered £39million worth of the Tamiflu drug for US troops.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176743/Donald-Rumsfelds-controversial-links-drug-company-Tamiflu.html




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[Na'imah]

As salaamu alaikum,

I have some interesting reads (links) regarding corruption in Big Pharma. As soon as I'm allowed to post links, I'll drop them here, insha'Allah. :BeRightBack: