"Innocence of Muslims" movie causes outrage

[Good brother]

[h=2]'Muslims must control their anger': scholars oppose violent response to anti-Islam film[/h]

Renowned Islamic scholars reacted to a movie that insulted Holy Prophet Muhammad and the ensuing attacks on embassies by issuing a joint statement.

In a statement released on Friday, the An Nusra Al Alamiya organization led by Yusuf al-Qaradawi made a call for prudence. With its headquarters in Kuwait, An Nusra Al Alamiya pointed out that the movie targeting Holy Prophet Muhammad was provocative and all ensuing attacks on U.S. embassies should end.
"Reactions against the insult directed at Holy Prophet Muhammad were legal and were things desired. This is a necessity of our faith. Defending the Holy Prophet Muhammad is a desirable Islamic behaviour. However, a Muslim must act based on the Islamic law and directives issued by the Holy Prophet Muhammad. We should not be acting in opposition to our Prophet Muhammad while thinking that we are defending him," the statement underlined.
"The Muslims must control their anger. We need to focus on our aim. We need to stop the insult to our Prophet Muhammad immediately and punish those responsible for the insult. In connection with such an aim, we must stay away from acts that incite such insults, lead to the spread of such insults and protecting those making insults after they try to justify the insults based on freedom of expression," the statement noted.
"Insults on values have no aim other than causing unrest. Replying to such provocations with violence is doing what those troublemakers want," the statement underlined.

"The duty of the Muslims is not merely to respond to the insults directed against Prophet Muhammad. Holy Prophet Muhammad's life, his high moral values and permanent message must be carried to the whole world. All means must be utilized to introduce Muhammad in the most accurate manner. Organizing international symposiums on Muhammad may be beneficial," the statement stressed.
"The violent attacks on U.S. embassies are not within the boundaries of Islam. According to Islamic rules and moral values, we need to be loyal to agreements. Ambassadors, tradesmen or other contracted individuals entering a country can not be harmed. Holy Prophet Muhammad has forbidden the killing of ambassadors," the statement also said.

 

[observer]

Re: Innocent of Muslims move causes outrage

By the way, the UDHR was based on the Prophet pbuh last sermon.

Really? I can't find any evidence for that.

In fact, Saudi Arabia and Iran refused to implement it as they said that it was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition" and Iran said that its implementation would violate Islamic law.

 

[observer]

Re: Innocent of Muslims move causes outrage

Do you think that atheists are innocent when mass murder people? If so, remember Stalin who murdered over 20 million.

Sadly, I think that history has shown that humanity is always capable of barbarism, regardless of religion or lack thereof.

 

[sister herb]

Re: Innocent of Muslims move causes outrage

Sadly, I think that history has shown that humanity is always capable of barbarism, regardless of religion or lack thereof.

We hope so too; even after almost million killed muslim civilians in the Middle East by Nato forces/IDF during last 10 years.

And they call muslims as terrorists when killers have been mostly Jews and Christians?

^o)

 

[sister herb]

If they haven´t been Jews or Christians then what they have been?

(We can always say they have left they religion.)

Atheists? For what kind of behaviour atheism teach they followers? Nothing as it is not religion by any moral codes?

 

[TG123]

This movie is one of the most vile pieces of garbage on Youtube. I saw the trailer, and couldn't watch any more of it. As a Christian, I condemn this. I have my disagreements with Islam, but there is a difference between being a witness to the Christian faith and debating other religions; and making a mockery of what people believe and propagating lies.

 

[sister herb]

I don´t think there is very much difference in basic with Christiany and Islam at all.

I my country one writer asked us muslims make similar video about Jesus but muslims here explained to him we can´t. Jesus/Isa is prophet as well and it isn´t right to mock any prophet at all.

Neither insult other religion.

:hiding:

 

[observer]

If they haven´t been Jews or Christians then what they have been?

(We can always say they have left they religion.)

Atheists? For what kind of behaviour atheism teach they followers? Nothing as it is not religion by any moral codes?

Sigh, atheists have no morality? Really?

And I think it's safe to say that every religion has done, and is doing, its fair share of killing - Islam included.

 

[YusufNoor]

let's see, the scripted Democrat/Republican conventions went over rather poorly. the facade of democracy in the US is nearly gone, it's football season and new judges for American Idol; Banksters rule the planet and are confiscating nearly all of the world's wealth. if people were paying attention, they would notice that the world wide fascist government is cementing it's grip on the world. all that is needed is world war 3, and that is right around the corner.

looks like it is "October Surprise" in the USA. and guess what? we are handing it to "them" on a golden platter. the Banksters care not one wit for Muslims, Christians, Jews or anyone else for that matter. there are too many of us, they desire to drastically reduce the population of the planet and enslave the remainder.

the non-existant movie, it's just a phony trailer has all the earmarkings of a Corporate Psy-Op. it has been reported that the Banksters are using "Al Qaeda" as insurgents in Syria, the purpose is to be able to use that country as a base for the attack on Iran as well as to eliminate Iran's closest Middle Eastern Ally. it has also been reported that "Al Qaeda" is inciting the riots in Muslim countries. the only thing we know for sure about "Al Qaeda" is that it is a creation of the CIA. everything else is debatable. it is probable that BOTH the "trailer" AND the reaction to it are brought to us by the same criminals. when we aid them, either way, we become their accomplices, after the fact. it is a type of witchcraft that we are falling for. "They" weave the spell, we suck it up for all it is worth. we are playing the game they want us to play. we are triggering WWIII.

Bismillahi r-rahmani r-raheem
1 Qul a`uzu bi-rabbi l-falaq
2 Min sharri ma khalaq
3 Wa min'sharri ghasiqin iza waqab
4 Wa min'sharri n-naffasati fi l-u'qad
5 Wa min'sharri hasidin iza hasad

Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of Daybreak [1] From the evil of that which He created; [2] From the evil of the darkness when it is intense, [3] And from the evil of malignant witchcraft, [4] And from the evil of the envier when he envieth

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Raheem
1.Qul a'uudhu bi rabbin naas
2.Malikin naas
3.Ilaahin naas
4.Min sharril waswaasil khannas
5.Alladhee yuwaswisu fee suduurin naas

Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, [1] The King of mankind, [2] The God of mankind, [3] From the evil of the sneaking whisperer, [4] Who whispereth in the hearts of mankind, [5] Of the jinn and of mankind. [6]

don't believe what you see on the news, the Banksters own the news.

here is a website, also filled with some lunatics, david icke, alex jones, etc, but it does offer some news not reported by the Banksters:
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/headlines/

think before you act.

:wa:

6.Minal Jinnati wa naas

 

[sister herb]

Sigh, atheists have no morality? Really?

When we say somone do acts what are not accepted in his/hers religion we say he/she has left his/hers religion.

Is it same than atheism, I have no idea.

 

[observer]

When we say somone do acts what are not accepted in his/hers religion we say he/she has left his/hers religion.

Is it same than atheism, I have no idea.

What is or is not accepted in atheism comes from that religion's holy book. For atheists, there is no holy book. There are many treatises based on discussions of where an atheistic morality should come from, but generally the accepted form seems to be some form of "The Golden Rule" as a start - do to others as you would have them do to you.

Think about it like this, if there were no Quran, would you suddenly think it ok to kill people? I don't think so.

But I think we are getting a little off topic here - a discussion for another thread perhaps!

 

[جوري]

What is or is not accepted in atheism comes from that religion's holy book. For atheists, there is no holy book. There are many treatises based on discussions of where an atheistic morality should come from, but generally the accepted form seems to be some form of "The Golden Rule" as a start - do to others as you would have them do to you.

Think about it like this, if there were no Quran, would you suddenly think it ok to kill people? I don't think so.

But I think we are getting a little off topic here - a discussion for another thread perhaps!

we were never left to our devices without divine guidance- Atheists seem to learn by example but not make a committment for when the going gets tough.. but you're right it is a topic for another day and another thread!

best,

 

[sister herb]

To observer;

I think I know atheism quite well as I was one of them before. Thanks to Allah not any more!

What separated me from atheism? Something touched my immortal soul.

:statisfie

 

[glo]

On the original topic, I came across this quote:

"If I don't want Christianity to be judged by this tiny radical, extremist group who produced the film [the film that people are rioting over], I should be careful that I don't judge the whole of Islam by the radical fundamentalists among them".
Rev. Maxie Dunnam

 

[IslamicRevival]

I can't believe Nasrallah gave that speech. What a ridiculous man. He's a bigger instigator than the man that made the movie. He brainwashes the people little by little until they're convinced that America is the bad guy. Sorry buddy but you're greatly mistaken. He's singlehandedly tearing lebanon (as well as a bunch of other countries) apart and creating tension between shia and sunni. The scumbag is nothing but a warlord. I can't believe no one has taken him off his high horse yet.

Claiming Hassan Nasrallah is a bigger instigator then the anti Islamic film producer is nuts, I do not mean to be disrespectful but you must be off your rocker to believe that. Ive never heard anything from Hassan Nasrallah thats designed to create animosity between Sunni and Shia, its quite the opposite as ive only heard him call for unity time and time again. And for your information if it wasnt for Hezbollah and its resistance against Israel, Lebanon would have been torn apart a long time ago. I do not know how you can have the audacity to claim Hassan Nasrallah is a war lord whilst in the same sentence covertly defend America (The government), who are the true war mongers.

 

[dusk]

When we say somone do acts what are not accepted in his/hers religion we say he/she has left his/hers religion.

Is it same than atheism, I have no idea.

Isn't it more like you have left your denomination in many cases. Hitler considered himself a Christian to the end. The priests that abuse children are also still considered Christians. Most Muslims do not accept terrorist attacks but the terrorists definitely do not think they leave their religion.
I don't really see such very often. Excommunication is a rather rare thing.

Atheism is no religion or organisation the only way you can let the designation behind is to join some theistic religion. So Buddhism doesn't necessarily count.
When we'd be talking about something more specific like secular humanists things are different. Humanist try to be good people for creating a society and social environment that they wish to live in. If you want to get help when your car breaks down on the side of the road, you need to help yourself at any chance. Every individual is a member and every leech is well a leech. Do everything to further the environment you want to live in and do everything to make sure there are as few leeches as possible. Is basically the simple humanist code. Therefore leeches wouldn't be considered humanists as they do work against both goals.

Atheism is not a club as such. It is not being part of a special kind of clubs that makes you an atheist. Ergo the only action that can make you not an atheist is to join any such "special" club.

 

[sister herb]

Hitler may consider himself as Christian but it is not important at all. Importartant is what Allah thinks at the Judgement Day about Hitler, you or me.

I told in other place that I was atheist before so I have quite good ability to understand it.

Thanks to Allah and His mercy I am not atheits any more.

 

[TG123]

I don´t think there is very much difference in basic with Christiany and Islam at all.

I my country one writer asked us muslims make similar video about Jesus but muslims here explained to him we can´t. Jesus/Isa is prophet as well and it isn´t right to mock any prophet at all.

Neither insult other religion.

:hiding:

I don't think I would agree with you that there isn't much difference between Christianity and Islam, I think we have many differences and some similarities. However, both Islam and Christianity teach that lying is a sin. Both Christianity and Islam teach that we are to treat others the way we would want to be treated.

The producer of this film is not following either faith.

 

[Perseveranze]

Asalaamu Alaikum,

His pic has been leaked.

FIRST PHOTO: Nakoula Basseley Nakoula revealed! Photo surfaces despite his efforts to shield face from media after interview with police - NY Daily News (uncovered woman, so that's why I put the edited pic here)

55-year-old was interviewed but not arrested or detained, according to authorities. Nakoula has previously been convicted of financial crimes

Federal investigators questioned — but later released — one of the filmmakers behind the incendiary anti-Islam video that sparked violent clashes across the Middle East.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was taken in for questioning near his Southern California home early Saturday, officials said.

But Nakoula, who is on probation, was not arrested and investigators said his appearance at the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s office was voluntary.

The Egyptian-born filmmaker has since gone into hiding, according to The Associated Press.

“He is gone,” Steven Whitmore, spokesman for the sheriff’s office, told the news wire services. “We don’t know where he went. He said he is not going back to his home.”

Nakoula, 55, is at the center of the probe into the amateurish movie “Innocence of Muslims,” which slanders the prophet Muhammed and triggered protests at several U.S. government buildings in the Middle East. During a demonstration in Libya, which may have been used as cover by terrorists, an American ambassador and three of his colleagues were killed.

Nakoula — who wore a coat, scarf and hat pulled down to hide his face when taken from his Los Angeles-area home just after midnight — was convicted of a check-kiting scheme in June 2010.

He was sentenced to 21 months in prison but only served one year. He’s on probation but could return to prison if he is found to have violated the conditions of his release. A judge barred Nakoula from using the Internet for five years.

Meanwhile, the director of the film was unmasked as Alan Roberts, a 65-year-old porn director. Roberts directed “The Happy Hooker Goes Hollywood,” according to Gawker.

“I am sure it was the same Alan Roberts, as I remember him speaking about this project,” filmmaker David Prior told the website in an email.

Roberts also directed “Young Lady Chatterly” and “The Sexpert.”

 

[جوري]

Meanwhile, the director of the film was unmasked as Alan Roberts, a 65-year-old porn director. Roberts directed “The Happy Hooker Goes Hollywood,” according to Gawker.

lol.. at any rate.. I don't understand what do the clouds care for the barking dogs below? All those Muslims out on the streets and around embassies should take that energy and enter into Syria and liberate it or does that not count? a porno flick which they say is about us matters so much but decapitated 4 year old girls in Syria don't.. strange world walhi sob7an Allah..