Sura 2:29-31 - the viceroy on earth.

[theplains]

show me where I said Allah commanded 'everyone' to bow to 'Mankind'

Hello, see the post #23 of a few days ago. I don't think I can provide a direct link with a screen print on
my facebook page so you will have to see ... 134316680-sura-2-29-31-viceroy-earth-2.html#post1555933

I am assuming it is the same poster as you because the details of the poster appear to be the same ... female,
join date July 2006, description is "Apologize For Naught"

In that post 23, you are replying to someone called Roasted Cashew and you wrote, "Iblis is introduced when
Allah commanded everyone to bow down to mankind. He chooses not to bow down."

I wish I could post a picture to show you, but I think you will be able to find what was written. No one else
mentioned that I misquoted you so I think I have the right person.

If I have the wrong poster, sorry.

Regards,
Jim

 

[جوري]

Hello, see the post #23 of a few days ago. I don't think I can provide a direct link with a screen print on
my facebook page so you will have to see ... 134316680-sura-2-29-31-viceroy-earth-2.html#post1555933

I did- I haven't seen 'All' nor 'Mankind'!

I am assuming it is the same poster as you because the details of the poster appear to be the same ... female,
join date July 2006, description is "Apologize For Naught"

What is this all about? Yes I have been consistently replying to you- Have you read anything either Myself or Muhammad have written?

In that post 23, you are replying to someone called Roasted Cashew and you wrote, "Iblis is introduced when
Allah commanded everyone to bow down to mankind. He chooses not to bow down."

That's an excerpt from another page neither from Quran nor Sunnah nor something I have personally written, rather an analogy meant to simplify things for him in some respects!

best,

 

[theplains]

That's an excerpt from another page neither from Quran nor Sunnah nor something I have personally written, rather an analogy meant to simplify things for him in some respects!

best,

Thank you very much for the clarification. In the future, if you do these types of excerpts or use analogies from
non-Quran and non-Sunnah sources, please mention it. Sorry for the confusion on my part because I was
viewing it as something you said. Thanks again. I will review what you and Muhammad mentioned :statisfie

Regards,
Jim

 

[IAmZamzam]

What on earth is the problem? Look, if there was some kind of misunderstanding, any sort of problem with the whole lot of them being addressed at once, then when God said, "Iblis, what's the matter that you didn't bow down when I told you to?" he could have replied, "Oh, I'm sorry, were you talking to me too?" and obeyed immediately. But he didn't. He decided to be a defiant smart-alleck instead. Because he knew very well that the command was for him as well. And what's more he went right on to take advantage of his Maker's mercy a moment later and then threaten Him to His face. I'd admire his chutzpah if he wasn't so stupid. Obviously he was a part of the group, and quite regularly got commands along with the rest, or at the very least did not suffer from any sort of communication breakdown on that particular occasion. The conversation did not betray any hint of confusion or misinterpretation.

 

[Abu Loren]

The trouble with people like Mr. Plain is that they just don't want to SEE. I've come across people like him on many a forum. No wonder Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala calls them dear, dumb and blind and like cattle they don't have any understanding.:skeleton:

 

[IAmZamzam]

The trouble with him may be more that he's here solely to provoke and to make us question our faith. That's what I'm beginning to suspect, anyway. He doesn't sound like an innocent inquirer who's here to learn about our religion. He sounds like someone with a repulsively transparent modus operandi of, "Hey, I'm asking an innocent question. I just came across this thing I don't understand and have no idea it looks like it completely incriminates your whole religion (to someone who hasn't seen this claim brought up and refuted nine hundred times before, probably even on this very board.) I hope I'm not troubling you guys too much. Hope you can help me. Thanks. Peace out!" What is it with these Christian evangelists, or the evangelistic types? Why are so many of them this immoral? Why are they so dishonest? It's probably because of the black-and-white, extremist mindframe they operate out of. Save people no matter what. It doesn't make any difference how you do it. Whatever it is it offends me so much I almost have tears in my eyes. This is not a good time in my life to be encountering people like him. All I can do is pray for him to know what real salvation is.

 

[IAmZamzam]

Why have I never thought of doing this before? You're going on my "ignore" list, theplains. I beg you all to put him on your own as well. He's here to deceive and to provoke. Just block him now. Don't listen to a word he says, ever.

 

[Abu Loren]

Why have I never thought of doing this before? You're going on my "ignore" list, theplains. I beg you all to put him on your own as well. He's here to deceive and to provoke. Just block him now. Don't listen to a word he says, ever.

I second that emotion because just look at the kind of questions that he asks.........