Ok we seem to be going around in circles. Ok Danish newspapers wanted to execise thier FREEDOM OF SPEECH Why attack the Muslims then? I mean come on why not the Hindus and Jews? Im not saying that would have been any better than our current situation BUT WHY MUSLIMS? And if you were gonna exercise your rights DID YOU HAVE TO STOOP SOO LOW TO CARTOONS AND ABUSE? Thats exactly what this is!
Presumably Danish cartoonish lampoon Hindus and Jews all the time. They certainly do it to Jesus and Christians. I agree that it is wrong to go about insulting other people's religions. But now it has been done and the question is what to do next.
News Reports yesterday were saying that the 12 men involved in the Cartoon Scandal have gone into hiding and are QUESTIONING themselves as to what they did was it right or wrong!
Really? What do you think most Danes are thinking?
They the DANISH prime Minster comes on and says "I didn’t think some Cartoons would cause this!" THIS IS WHY WE ARE SOO MAD AT THE DANISH GOVERMENT.
Yes SOME people have taken things too far by burning buildings and inciting HATE! But the DANISH Government ARE STILL ACTING ARROGANTLY. Its obvious from the response from MUSLIMS that this is NOT "Some Cartoons".
Do you really think WE Muslims have got the time to go on the street and PROTEST for nothing?
You are mad because the Danes did something that offended you without knowing it would offend you? Surely that is a reason to be less mad? How are the Danes acting arrogantly? That Danish Muslims are upset I can understand. That non-Danish Muslims are upset I can also understand. That Danish Muslims campaign for changes I can understand. That all Muslims boycott Danish products is, I think, reasonable. That you insist on your right to tell Danes how to live in Denmark I do not understand. Why do you think your values ought to trump their values in their own country?
For many years we have got on with non-Muslims, WE live in NON-MUSLIM countries BUT to say that these ARE YOUR COUNTRIES SHOWS YOUR IMMATURITY AND ARROGANCE. Our GREAT GRANDFATHERS LIKE YOURS FOUGHT IN THE WARS! We participate in everyday life. WE OWN some of the wealthiest Businesses Crime RATE among us is low! The Elder Generations were law abiding WE PAY TAX. Then does the colour of our SKIN determine that this AINT our Country.
I see you have got upset but if it comes down to it and there is a problem between the Muslims and the non-Muslims, how long do you think people will remember that you pay taxes? The Muslims are becoming the new Jews of Europe. The Jews of Germany paid taxes, obeyed the laws, fought in German Wars, and whatever. But when it came down to it Germans decided they were not German enough. It can happen to any minority at any time. This is, I hasten to add, a very bad thing. It is not the color of the skin, but the sharing of values.
I was born and bred here, I pay Tax I have ties with this country WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME ANY LESS BRITISH THAN YOU. What about the WHITE REVERTS, ARE they NOW less British as THERE Muslim?
Well no as I am not British. I have no problem accepting that you are British. But it does not matter what you feel, but what everyone else thinks. Do you think that you are seen by most British people as British in the same way the non-Muslims are British? Do you ever get asked "But where are you really from?"? If the majority of the population reject you, it does not matter how long you have been here, or what you speak in the home. The real problem in the West is that the majority is becoming less and less tolerant. If they are annoyed, do you think that the best way to deal with them is to talk rationally and calmly?
I think its about time that OUR rights are seen IF countries respected us, our religion and our beliefs and comments NO ONE would turn to Violence. We've been silenced TOO Long!
I think you would find it hard to find a non-Muslim country that respected your religion and beliefs more than Britain does. I might be wrong but the Prime Minister's wife is arguing as we speak for the right of school girls to wear the jilbalb. It is a sign of something. What rights do you think you do not have? Cartoonists insult everyone's religions equally. Are you banned from prayer? Dua? Is hallal food hard to find much less forbidden?
And again, let me ask you, the majority of the people in the West see the Muslims of Europe as a problem. They feel threatened and scared. That may work for people who are powerless, but the Europeans have things they can do to remedy that situation. Bad things. Let me ask you, if you are dealing with people who are vastly more powerful than you and you have scared them (think of a large, angry man with an AK-47 in his hand) do you think the best way to talk to them is to shout and bully them some more?
This was reprinted in a major Australian daily newspaper
Multiculturalism can be tantamount to national suicide
James Pinkerton, in Newsday, on how the Danish cartoon kerfuffle shows the folly of a divided ethnic society
February 09, 2006
DIFFERENCES between the West and the Muslim world can be chalked up to just that: differences. That's the truth about world ethnicity, and no amount of politically correct wishful thinking will change that truth. Countries that ignore that basic lesson of history and political science put themselves at grave risk of internal discord, subversion and civil war. Either a country is united in its common culture or it becomes disunited in its multiculturalism.
For proof, we need only look to Europe, where millions of Muslims have been allowed to immigrate without much thought given to their political and cultural integration into their host societies. In London, Muslims responding to the Danish cartoons chanted pro-jihad slogans and carried signs reading "7/7 is on its way" - a reference to the terror bombings last July 7 that killed 52 innocent Britons. That's not free speech; that's incitement to violence. A nation allowing such hostile populations to flourish in its midst is not defending liberty. It is enabling its own national suicide.
Short of worldwide war, followed by occupation, there's not much the West can do about Muslim culture in Muslim lands. That's international multiculturalism, alas. But on the issue of intra-national multiculturalism, there's plenty we can do. We can monitor, we can insist upon political and cultural assimilation and we can impose strict controls on immigration and travel visas - down to zero if need be.
We might not be able to change them, but we can keep them from changing us.
This is a mainstream national paper - not a fringe right-wing one. You see what I mean about opinion changing? Now when I argue with people about the benefits of a tolerant multicultural society, they say things like this: "A nation allowing such hostile populations to flourish in its midst is not defending liberty. It is enabling its own national suicide." Frankly even I am not that happy about national suicide. So. What else is there to say? You can deal with the Western public in a way that the West can accept, or you can deal with them in a way they will not. Up to you.
