Afghan Man Faces Death for Allegedly Converting to Christianity

[Wahid]

opps am too late bro already responded to this

 

[knuckles]

Im Saying Yes the Taliban did blow up the statues, But not by themselves. They had alittle funding. And Yes im proud of them blowing up the statues. Why?

Because the Families and mothers and fathers of children who were staying near those statues starving for money and food Begging the internation world to coincide and help them. Yet no, The World cares more about 3000 Year Old Statues. Now my question to you is Why should the taliban car about the past when the world fails to recognize its future?

I know this because i was one of those children.

Were the statues taking food out of people mouths? This is the most assinine excuse for total destruction of an artifact I've ever heard.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

I think you should just not post on this topic because

1) you dont know anything about Afghanistan

2) You dont know about the starvation problem and its people

3) Dont dictate to me thats the excuse because if you saw your children dieing in front of your eyes while the statues next to them were getting loved you would feel the same why. Why would the world care about its past when the future isnt even recognized?

The reason why i bring up these points is because if you were a true afghan or knew anything about afghanistan or had ANY EXPERIENCE in this part of life you would understand the calamities and situation of Afghanistan.

Dont try to dictate to me thats the excuse when hundreds of children are dieing a month when they begg the world for money yet the world doesnt recognize them and only recognizes statues. What more justification do u need?

 

[snakelegs]

No thats not what you said What you said was afghanistan only has a few beautiful mountains. When you havent even been there and seen it. Sorry the twisting around game doesnt work on this board. I dont know what happened to the amazing artificats and rare materials. Why dont you ask Cheney?

And i dont know your homeland what is it j/c?

this is off topic but if anyone wants a glimpse of the beauty of afghanistan, here is a link to a whole bunch of beautiful photos. i find the ones of bamian province simply awesome.

http://www.lukepowell.com/

i hope one day not too far distant future, this beautiful land will know peace.

 

[Malsidabym]

Im Saying Yes the Taliban did blow up the statues, But not by themselves. They had alittle funding. And Yes im proud of them blowing up the statues. Why?

Because the Families and mothers and fathers of children who were staying near those statues starving for money and food Begging the internation world to coincide and help them. Yet no, The World cares more about 3000 Year Old Statues. Now my question to you is Why should the taliban car about the past when the world fails to recognize its future?

I know this because i was one of those children.

I am very sorry to hear of your past hardship. Many of us have been through terrible things, it is sad that life has so much pain.
As far as the reason is concerned as to why the taliban destroyed them, Mullah Mohammed Omar didn't mention anything other than religious reasons when he issued the edict to destroy them. he said, "Because God is one God and these statues are there to be worshipped and that is wrong. They should be destroyed so that they are not worshipped now or in the future." Now the problem I have is that islam is clear on respecting other religions, and I don't think that Mr. Omar was respecting the buddists in this case.
The Taliban had a arms length butt-out stance on any kind of foreign intervention around this time period. Again, I am sorry for your hardship at that time, but the Taliban were not seeking aid.
Foreign aid groups such as the Red Cross have tried at times to help, sometimes they were permitted, other times they were not.

 

[knuckles]

I think you should just not post on this topic because

1) you dont know anything about Afghanistan

2) You dont know about the starvation problem and its people

3) Dont dictate to me thats the excuse because if you saw your children dieing in front of your eyes while the statues next to them were getting loved you would feel the same why. Why would the world care about its past when the future isnt even recognized?

The reason why i bring up these points is because if you were a true afghan or knew anything about afghanistan or had ANY EXPERIENCE in this part of life you would understand the calamities and situation of Afghanistan.

Dont try to dictate to me thats the excuse when hundreds of children are dieing a month when they begg the world for money yet the world doesnt recognize them and only recognizes statues. What more justification do u need?

Ok the statues were blown up and they still didn't get food. What was the point? By the way you can't make me stop talking about Afghanistan. Actually I think I'll speak about it whenever I feel like it

 

[mahdisoldier19]

The reason why the Red Cross werent permitted is because Afghanistan is the only country with millions of mine fields. If those Red Cross members start dieing on all corners, then its going to create a problem for the taliban. The security was in uproar , women were being raped on city streets. They needed to secure the country which they eventually started doing that is why some red cross were able to get in to help some key areas. Eventually all of them would when the mines cleared up.

And dont worry Malsidabmy I respect you alot but you have to understand some of the issues isnt what you see on the News or internet. Different perspectives. The majority of perspectives you get are from hazaris, tajiks and kabuls. Not much from Poshtuns That suffer the most.

 

[Malsidabym]

this is off topic but if anyone wants a glimpse of the beauty of afghanistan, here is a link to a whole bunch of beautiful photos. i find the ones of bamian province simply awesome.

http://www.lukepowell.com/

i hope one day not too far distant future, this beautiful land will know peace.

It is beutiful there, I hope one day I could visit (perhaps mahdisoldier19 could show me around LOL).

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Are you a guy or a girl, you have to know alot of things! Keep your mouth shut dont look anyone in the eye. And just stand behind me lol ill do all the talking

 

[knuckles]

The reason why the Red Cross werent permitted is because Afghanistan is the only country with millions of mine fields. If those Red Cross members start dieing on all corners, then its going to create a problem for the taliban. The security was in uproar , women were being raped on city streets. They needed to secure the country which they eventually started doing that is why some red cross were able to get in to help some key areas. Eventually all of them would when the mines cleared up.

And dont worry Malsidabmy I respect you alot but you have to understand some of the issues isnt what you see on the News or internet. Different perspectives. The majority of perspectives you get are from hazaris, tajiks and kabuls. Not much from Poshtuns That suffer the most.

Wow and Afghanistab was in heaven under the Taliban right? At least that's what a few posters were saying in other posts.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Man Knuckles, everytime i beat you in a arguement you jump to another one. Did i ever say the taliban was Heaven for the afghan people? Dont put words in my mouth. I could say The Afghan people wanted the taliban in the beginning, how do you think they started? They didnt force theyre way in, They were wanted in to bring security. Like everything else some elements are good some are bad. Im not going to say all the taliban were GREAT there were some bad fellas. But thats in every society. Just look at BUSH!

 

[Malsidabym]

you have to understand some of the issues isnt what you see on the News or internet. Different perspectives. The majority of perspectives you get are from hazaris, tajiks and kabuls. Not much from Poshtuns That suffer the most

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I am very aware of the one-sidedness of most stories, I spend alot of time trying to find different views, that is why I am talking to you now! LOL! Yes I go to CNN, but also BBC, CBC, AFP,INA, and try to seek out local newspapers if possible on the net for the area the story comes from. And I read in forums, and blogs.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

ok read aop news for afghanistan. Thats a good source not true source for instance the video on CBS of the taliban burning the schools. There is no way those men were taliban i know it and others too. The taliban wont run away like in the video they would stand and fight back. Its so sad what CBS is trying to do and its so funny how the video dissapeared from the news in 1 day

 

[knuckles]

ok read aop news for afghanistan. Thats a good source not true source for instance the video on CBS of the taliban burning the schools. There is no way those men were taliban i know it and others too. The taliban wont run away like in the video they would stand and fight back. Its so sad what CBS is trying to do and its so funny how the video dissapeared from the news in 1 day

Like the leader of the Taliban when the US forces was on him right:rollseyes . The man is still on the run.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

The man is still on the run? Another topic you have? You just dont quit being an idiotic person and embarresing yourself on this board dont you? For your information that man is In Control of Waziriastan. No one was able to control that area between afghanistan and pakistan but the Talibs currently do.

 

[ISDhillon]

Gurfateh!

Afganistan used to be a country where honour was very important it was prized above all else but today we see honour being displaced by ego, change is being equated with america and all conspiracy theories give birth to a religion of superstition not Islam, and it is this attitude which cause men to recreate a long gone genre because people are living in the memory of the glorious past which can NEVER be revived but it is the stubborness of the people which will have to be challenged if any progress is going to be made and I am not talking from what I read in the newspaper, my grandfather was stationed in the NWFP and new the psyche of the people of that region very well, I agree though that times have changed since then.

There is no excuse for blowing the statues up in afganistan, there are plenty of people starving in India but that does not mean the babri masjid was attacked because it was taking money away from the people of India, the reason for the demolishon is religion and religion alone any attempt to condone these acts are people protecting their own egos when they know they have done something wrong. If the people of afganistan are needing support then they should ask for it from others, did islam not teach humilty?, Taliban brought primarily fear not security and indirectly fear brought security but ultimately this same fear also brought the destruction of the taliban. When azadi comes to a country such as afganistan then people deliberately rape and loot on purpose because they fear the evolution of society will bring question to the righteousness with which the country had been ruled throughout history.

Further on someone also says that it is ok to destroy the idols because the prophet did this in mecca, with this mentality in my religion I can go out and kill 125000 people for every member of my faith who is killed. Afganistan needs investment in projects which will sustain their economy such as the use of biotechnology for crop diversification because unless we find a miraculous new invention for the poppy the economy of afganistan will not prosper.

Bhul chuk marf karni

ISDhillon

 

[mahdisoldier19]

I dont know who you are but i can tell you dont know nothing about Afghanistan too.

How did the taliban start? Oh thats right 2 girls were raped and kidnapped by 10 men and 30 other mujahadeen led by a man named Mullah omar rescued the 2 girls and hung the 10 men. And yes there is excuse My excuse still stands and whatever you can come up with will not hold for the deaths of innocent children.

btw IN the beginning the taliban wanted the people, Yes they brought security. And btw did you ever talk to poshtun women right now? A growing number want the taliban back. I dont know what mentality your talking about killing 125,000 where did you get that from AKhi?>

Please Dont post on this thread when you know nothing about the country except for CNN POPPY Seeds and thats about it.

 

[snakelegs]

from what i've read - many afghans were ok with the taliban because the taliban solved the most pressing problem in the country at the time, which was security.
also, they have to be regarded in context of a very conservative society. so by my standards they were horrible, but an afghan might see it differently.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Listen Some of you people dont know anything about afghanistan, you just give smart answers to think its this and that. Only Malsidabym is probaly the only person that wants a legitment debate or arguement with true while the rest just talk from their behind. Please refrain from posting useless information in a topic in which you know nothing about.

 

[Malsidabym]

so by my standards they were horrible, but an afghan might see it differently.

This is an important point. In the west we see things alot differently, and many think we are there now helping. And maybe even some afghans do too. But perhaps alot more afghans than we think don't want our help, from thier perspective perhaps things are fine.