he's not a dhimmi

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There's a difference between not befriending the kuffar and giving dawah to the kuffar.

You don't need to show mercy to them. I've given proofs yet nobody has given me a proper answer. Just a dodgy or dramatic rant.

You're quick to jump on pleasing these disbelievers yet show harshness towards your own ummah. How great is this filthy ummah!
 
Kuffar-pleasing parrots?

Besides that, the last thing I will say is that the above points you have taken out of context, brother. I read through the replies in full and they all have specific conditions. We can respect those who are of a different faith, in fact we are encouraged to treat them kindly. I don't understand what has been happening on this forum you are concerned about. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the perfect example of respect and religious tolerance - he visited the child of a Jewish neighbour who was unwell, this is in al-Bukhari.

Islam is not a religion of hate, but of mercy.

And the proof you have given me is insufficient to believe in your point, so I suppose the feeling is mutual.

BarakAllahu feek.
 
Allaah has forbidden the believers to take the kaafireen (disbelievers) as friends, and He has issued a stern warning against doing that.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Awliyaa’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Awliyaa’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allaah guides not those people who are the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)”

[al-Maa’idah 5:51]

Tafsir: Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: In this verse Allaah tells us that whoever takes the Jews and Christians as friends is one of them because of his taking them as friends. Elsewhere Allaah states that taking them as friends incurs the wrath of Allaah and His eternal punishment, and that if the one who takes them as friends was a true believer he would not have taken them as friends. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“You see many of them taking the disbelievers as their Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers). Evil indeed is that which their ownselves have sent forward before them; for that (reason) Allaah’s Wrath fell upon them, and in torment they will abide.

81. And had they believed in Allaah, and in the Prophet (Muhammad) and in what has been revealed to him, never would they have taken them (the disbelievers) as Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers); but many of them are the Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)” [al-Maa’idah 5:80-81]
 
noraina said:
Kuffar-pleasing parrots?

Besides that, the last thing I will say is that the above points you have taken out of context, brother. I read through the replies in full and they all have specific conditions. We can respect those who are of a different faith, in fact we are encouraged to treat them kindly. I don't understand what has been happening on this forum you are concerned about. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the perfect example of respect and religious tolerance - he visited the child of a Jewish neighbour who was unwell, this is in al-Bukhari.

Islam is not a religion of hate, but of mercy.

And the proof you have given me is insufficient to believe in your point, so I suppose the feeling is mutual.

BarakAllahu feek.
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“O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islamic Monotheism, this Qur’aan, and Muhammad), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allaah your Lord” [al-Mumtahanah 60:1]

So how can it be appropriate for a Muslim to keep company with the enemy of Allaah and his enemy, and make friends with him?

How can he be certain that he will not start to think of their ways as good? Many Muslims have fallen into kufr and heresy and have apostatized from Islam because of keeping company with the kuffaar and living in their countries. Some of them have become Jews and some have become Christians, and some have embraced atheistic philosophies.

We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in following His religion.
 
noraina said:
Kuffar-pleasing parrots?

Besides that, the last thing I will say is that the above points you have taken out of context, brother. I read through the replies in full and they all have specific conditions. We can respect those who are of a different faith, in fact we are encouraged to treat them kindly. I don't understand what has been happening on this forum you are concerned about. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the perfect example of respect and religious tolerance - he visited the child of a Jewish neighbour who was unwell, this is in al-Bukhari.

Islam is not a religion of hate, but of mercy.

And the proof you have given me is insufficient to believe in your point, so I suppose the feeling is mutual.

BarakAllahu feek.
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If this is insufficient proof, I personally don't even know what is sufficient proof. Allah has said it clear that they are the enemies of Allah. Under conditions such as being a dhimmi or an alliance within an islamic nation, then it is allowed to be merciful.

I don't see any proofs or any proper explanations where Allah tells us to be merciful to the kuffar. You are a liar.

May Allah guide you.
 
Brother Umar Ibn Farooq is right. May Allah guide us to the truth. Ameen.
 
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Brother Umar Ibn Farooq is right. May Allah guide us to the truth. Ameen.
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Finally a brother who doesn't take my message negatively.

Those who reject the truth, they are but hypocrites and running after this dunya for the sake of pleasure.

May Allah bless you.
 
Umar Ibn Farooq said:
This is what I mean. You don't need to have a mutual relationship with kuffar. If you do, May Allah guide you.

I have nothing else to say but rather disappointing that this forum is full of kuffar-pleasing parrots. Shows us all how there is no ummah and the only ummah is those who hate and love for Allah's sake.
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Ok, lets have an experiment, try to be hateful, and despicable to the kafir @czgibson, and tell whether he'd rather run for the hills, or turn to Islam.

The ways you guys do dawah, and view kafirs, and on UF too, makes more enemies of Islam, than Muslim brothers. And not all kafirs are enemies of Islam.

If they don't stand in the way of Islam, or propagate, you'd hardly call that an enemy.
 
Serinity said:
Ok, lets have an experiment, try to be hateful, and despicable to the kafir @czgibson, and tell whether he'd rather run for the hills, or turn to Islam.
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I follow the teachings of Islam. I don't need to show him my love and mercy. I only have to convey the message.

I never claimed to be fierce and harsh against them. You're taking my message the wrong way. As you've given the shahadah and have claimed yourself to be Muslim, it is obliged for you to follow the religion and accept all the rulings. If you decline it, you have disbelieved and you're not a Muslim.

May Allah also guide you.
 
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Serinity said:
Ok, lets have an experiment, try to be hateful, and despicable to the kafir @czgibson, and tell whether he'd rather run for the hills, or turn to Islam.

The ways you guys do dawah, and view kafirs, and on UF too, makes more enemies of Islam, than Muslim brothers. And not all kafirs are enemies of Islam.

If they don't stand in the way of Islam, or propagate, you'd hardly call that an enemy.
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Praise be to Allaah. The belief in al-wala’ wa’l-bara’ (loyalty and friendship vs. disavowal and enmity) is one of the most important basic principles of Islam. Just as faith increases and decreases, so too people vary in the extent to which they adhere to this important principle, and their adherence to it increases and decreases. But if this principle is destroyed completely in a person’s heart and he does not do what it implies, this means that faith has been destroyed entirely as well, and faith is the basis on which he loves the close friends of Allaah and hates His enemies. This principle is indicated by a number of verses in the Book of Allaah and ahaadeeth from the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). These include the following:

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allaah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rooh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allaah is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the party of Allaah. Verily, it is the party of Allaah that will be the successful” [al-Mujaadilah 58:22]

https://islamqa.info/en/47322

From the fatwa given, do you have al wala wal bara for the sake of Allah or are you going to blindly follow your desires to fulfill your own needs? Don't live in this world to please yourself or please people. Live it to please Allah. That is true faith.
 
Umar Ibn Farooq said:
I follow the teachings of Islam. I don't need to show him my love and mercy. I only have to convey the message.

I never claimed to be fierce and harsh against them. You're taking my message the wrong way. As you've given the sahahdah and have claimed yourself to be Muslim, it is obliged for you to follow the religion and accept all the rulings. If you decline it, you have disbelieved and you're not a Muslim.

May Allah also guide you.
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I am Muslim, and accept all rulings. And may Allah guide us all. Ameen.

And Allah knows best.
 
Remember brothers and sisters, do not soften Islam for the kaffirs, and do not try to westernise it. Say the truth about Islam. May Allah reward us.
 
[MENTION=33361]farhan[/MENTION] Brother it's best you follow the teachings of Islam and implement them on the forum. There is no need to make Islam a fairy floss sugar coat religion. It is the religion of Allah. Not the religion of your desires.
 
Well.. Could you give us an example of the jizya rule being enforced anywhere in the world today..

So we can better understand how to answer.

As a westerner all I have for comparison is the tax laws.. Although they are always open to abuses and concessions.
 
There will be no personal attacks in this forum. If this ocurrs, available measures will be taken to stop this.
 
We are all Muslims, striving to please Allah SWT Alhamdulillah. I feel I have many improvements to make with myself, but I kindly ask you not to call me a liar - because nothing I have said is a lie, and if I have made a mistake, then there is no need to declare it in public.

That hadith I mentioned about the Prophet (pbuh) visiting his Jewish neighbour's son. Following the visit, that son became a Muslim. I do not think he would have converted if the Prophet had not shown mercy and kindness to him.

I don't like arguing with my brother in Islam, so I'll leave it at that.

May Allah guide us all.
 
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We must remember our limits. For example, there is no need to be kind and merciful towards the oppressors who have seen Islam but does not accept it. Allah knows best.
 
There are limits for that. If anyone oppresses the Muslims, we must retaliate.
 
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