My girlfriends parents disowned their daughter

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Stop criticising me. I didn't hunt him down, we just met. Back off and give me a break will you. I'm 18 in a few months so yes, I am practically an adult now and I'll do a I choose, not what others want me to do.

Thank you very much.

Don't take what Sabr as bad things. Sister Sabr might be like one of those aunties casually sitting on a chair with some tea and you say "I'm going to do it, I'm going to jump" but auntie says, "go on and do it, you're old enough to make your decisions" *sips tea*

well I don't know if this post was good but remember, Sabr is your sister if its in Islam or Humanity. We all care. Sometimes, they might sound harsh though but they're big softies in the inside.
 
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Your actions are indeed separate from theirs but you need to understand that your fathers religion, honor, respect, culture, values, beliefs, principles, background and right down to his bones and nerves don't allow him to accept his daughter being involved in a relationship with a man who is not her husband. It kills him, Yet, he has put all these matters aside for your happiness & on the pact that you will study Islam and perhaps realise on your own the values which he feels he has completely failed to install in you. Religion, respect, family values, are important to every person but he has seen that his daughter has not understood, valued or shown any regard to these matters or even to him as her father, and because of this he feels he has failed as a parent. It was the boyfriend who seemed more concerned about the situation than his own daughter was. What can he say after that other than do as you please, these are not the words of permission but the words which come from a broken heart. He has seen his position with his daughter and the regard she gave him, he is a broken father and man who cannot even lift his head in society anymore. He doesn't have 100% - it's 0%. You have got your boyfriend - you have got your way. What can he say to you except hope that you will look into Islam and at least realise what you are doing is wrong and try to put things right. Because if you knew what you were doing was wrong or at least had some regard, you wouldnt speak of spending the weekends with your boyfriend or going on holidays with him at least, even if you cannot leave complete contact. And we certainly wouldn't be reading comments like "I need to put my foot down" especially when, wheather you mean to or not, the foot is going right into your fathers face. It is very sad and the attitude it shows, especially when your father is only trying to advise you about getting the best in this life and the next.

Sincerely speaking, my intentions are not to bash you, but to help you realise and understand, because from your comments it seems like you haven't even began to realise the implications of your decision to remain in a relationship with your boyfriend or long term effects and consequences this will have upon you, your family and your hereafter. It doesn't effect your boyfriend as much as it effects you though the last part (hereafter) effects us all equally.


Are you afraid to test his love for you? How much time do you both need? Islam is clear , it's not a mystery which requires months of investigation. At least then you won't take so long looking into Islam at your own leisurely pace while you sin along the way. What if death met the one of you in that state? That is not showing a regard or sincerely trying and wanting to do the right thing. Why doesn't it matter to you whether your boyfriend accepts Islam? You are a Muslim, you at least believe in Allah do you not? You have something that he does not know about, and if you have any faith at all that Islam is true, then it should matter to you a lot that he seriously look into Islam, for his sake, your sake, your parents sake and if he believes in God then for Gods sake. Why should you be the one to sacrifice all these important matters and put your hereafter at risk, especially when your boyfriend is willing to seriously look into Islam and perhaps even marry you. It is his turn, he needs to make some changes, I know you love him but be patient, stand your ground upon Islam if you believe it is correct, do it for the sake of Allah this time, let your father feel some pride that atleast my daughter tried, after everything that your father has sacrificed for you, you owe him that much atleast. Let your boyfriend earn you, and remember you are only pulling him in a direction which is good for his life and next life , plus you can enjoy each other's company in a lawful way if he accepts. If he loves you and is a reasonable man which it seems he is, if he wants you back in way which would be acceptable to your faith and parents, he would make it a priority to investigate Islam and accept it without delay.

I can't really argue with this ^o)

OK I'll think about it.
 
Asalamualykum,

I would just like to remind everyone, including myself of the below hadith:

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah, may Allaah be pleased with him, said: The Messenger of Allaah, may peace and blessings be upon him, said:
“The believer is the mirror of the believer.”
[Abu Daawud, no. 4918, with a good chain]

What is the purpose of a mirror? It exposes our physical appearance and tells us how we look so we can make the relevant adjustment i.e. fix our hijaab if our hair is showing, cover our modesty, remove dirt from our clothes and so on. In the same way a believer advises his/her brother of his/her flaws with good intention so they can improve to gain the pleasure of Allah swt.

We should say Alhamdulilah when we hear 'criticism' or areas of improvement because we can all improve in big or small ways especially when it comes to our character. How often do our 'friends' give us constructive criticism so we can improve? Maybe we hang around with friends who just praise us to feed our ego? Does this do us justice in the long run?

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I have only been sent to perfect good characteristics.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in al-Adab al-Mufrad (273) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah (45).
 
I can't really argue with this ^o)

OK I'll think about it.
Alhamdulillah, may Allaah give you the courage to do the right thing and ultimately grant you, your parents and Youngen success and happiness. Aameen.

:wasalamex
 
@EgyptPrincess

Islam is not harsh, it forbids you from doing stuff that'd be detrimental to your Akhira, and this life. Allah SWT puts rules etc. For our benefit, to help us.

Cherish Islam, and asking questions is completely fine. Allah SWT puts restrictions only for OUR benefit, not to oppress us, but to liberate us. I ask Allah to make you turn to Islam.

http://legacy.quran.com/4/26-29 Read this - And I advice you to read the whole surah. :)

Remember - as long as you live you can repent to Allah SWT. The door of repentance closes when you DIE.
 
Islam is not harsh, it forbids you from doing stuff that'd be detrimental to your Akhira, and this life. Allah SWT puts rules etc. For our benefit, to help us.

Cherish Islam, and asking questions is completely fine. Allah SWT puts restrictions only for OUR benefit, not to oppress us, but to liberate us. I ask Allah to make you turn to Islam.

Read this - And I advice you to read the whole surah. :)

Remember - as long as you live you can repent to Allah SWT. The door of repentance closes when you DIE.

Thank you brother. I am trying :)
 
There are some really awesome styles for hijab :) a lot of Indonesian modest clothing is so beautiful and the materials are so breathable !
 
I'm sorry if I am a failure or a bad Muslim to the people in the forum imsad

Don´t worry dear. We aren´t perfect either. Some may be too judgemental but I wish you can forgive us those some overkills. :embarrass
 
Some may be too judgemental

It is our duty to tell people they are doing wrong.

On the Day of Judgment, when Allaah Judges, will you say He is being too "judgmental"?!

It is better that she is now made to wake up rather than on the Day of Judgement?!
 


It is our duty to tell people they are doing wrong.

I am sure that the message will be more easily understood if it is submitted in a supportive and constructive way, not only a judgmental spirit. Maybe you haven´t realized how others may experience your words. That´s natural - we sometimes may have problems to see how our own actions feels for others. It may be a lesson which is a hard to learn but it´s a part of the great lesson we could call as growing more mature and understanding person.

Yep, I believe that your purpose is good. You just need to think about how you express your concern. If you have noticed, I am not the only one who criticize your´s kind of comments. We don´t do it because we would like to hurt you but advice you.
 
It is our duty to tell people they are doing wrong.

On the Day of Judgment, when Allaah Judges, will you say He is being too "judgmental"?!

It is better that she is now made to wake up rather than on the Day of Judgement?!

So if I were your daughter, would you do what my parents did? Or would you be a bit more understanding?
 
So if I were your daughter, would you do what my parents did? Or would you be a bit more understanding?

I won't bring up my daughter like you have been bought up, :ia:, I will explain the reasoning behind everything she does from sources from Qur'aan and Sunnah - she won't feel the need to get out and make a boyfriend, :ia:, as she won't be forced to do anything.

May Allaah make my daughter a Haafizah, may He bring her up to Love her religion and protect her from the unbelievers, Ameen. :love:
 


I won't bring up my daughter like you have been bought up, :ia:, I will explain the reasoning behind everything she does from sources from Qur'aan and Sunnah - she won't feel the need to get out and make a boyfriend, :ia:, as she won't be forced to do anything.

May Allaah make my daughter a Haafizah, may He bring her up to Love her religion and protect her from the unbelievers, Ameen. :love:

Inshallah she does, but what if she doesn't? You'll come down on her like a ton of bricks. I think my parents didn't do a good job of teaching me Islam and now I'm being punished for it ^o)
 
Inshallah she does, but what if she doesn't? You'll come down on her like a ton of bricks. I think my parents didn't do a good job of teaching me Islam and now I'm being punished for it ^o)

But that is the point - I WILL teach her Islam because I was taught it myself, and I also had an interest from an early age - just like my daughter :ma: who is nearly 3 and has been to Umrah with us already. She was born a couple of days before Ramadan and always gets happy when Makkah (she calls it Allah ghar) is showing live on TV, because she's known that all her life up till now. She knows her 1st Kalimah, she knows the Qaidah (she makes alif baa taa with clay) and she knows an aayah from the Qur'aan -These things have to be instilled from an early early age in a child, or this world will TEAR THEM APART. (:ma: so she doesn't get nazar lol). Alhamulillaah may Allaah keep her steadfast on the Deen, Ameen.

Just remember - this world is like when you put a finger in the ocean and the amount of water that is left on the finger is this life compared to the Aakhirah.

May Allaah Guide you sis.
 


But that is the point - I WILL teach her Islam because I was taught it myself, and I also had an interest from an early age - just like my daughter :ma: who is nearly 3 and has been to Umrah with us already. She was born a couple of days before Ramadan and always gets happy when Makkah (she calls it Allah ghar) is showing live on TV, because she's known that all her life up till now. She knows her 1st Kalimah, she knows the Qaidah (she makes alif baa taa with clay) and she knows an aayah from the Qur'aan -These things have to be instilled from an early early age in a child, or this world will TEAR THEM APART. (:ma: so she doesn't get nazar lol). Alhamulillaah may Allaah keep her steadfast on the Deen, Ameen.

Just remember - this world is like when you put a finger in the ocean and the amount of water that is left on the finger is this life compared to the Aakhirah.

May Allaah Guide you sis.

I don't really want to keep posting in this thread because it's just getting out of hand. It should be closed and deleted actually but nevertheless I just wanted to reply to your last post.

I understand you're teaching your daughter about Islam rather than TELLING her about Islam which is great, this wasn't the case with me but as a mother I want to you what would you do if she turned out like me? Would you disown her? Beat her? Send her back home to Saudi Arabia or Egypt or somewhere? Would you be patient with her and try to guide her?

I feel like lots of people here are not understanding how I feel and are only taking my parents side and saying that I am 100% in the wrong no question about it :hmm: You must understand that I have LOST the Islam in me... I still believe in god obviously but that core connection to Islam has rotted away and so it's not as simple as just "shut up and go back to being full muslimah" like I can just press a switch and be like you.
 
EgyptPrincess disregard some comments. Some people like to antagonize and cause anger. Feel free to send me a message when you are not a limited member!!!
 
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

Do you think our Prophet SAW would be happy with the way you're advising others? Is this the way to talk to your sisters in Islam?

سبحان الله looking down on others, that isn't very nice.
 
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Theres a way to be straightforward without that attitude of yours. They are your sisters in Islam..

سبحان الله

May Allah guide us all.
 
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