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How does one eradicate the 'fear' of Jinn when performing Ruqyah or Self-Ruqyah?

He who fears Allah, the whole of creation will fear him.

Scimi

 

[Umm♥Layth]

This is very enlightening, thank you!

I'm unsure if this was covered in the seminar, but what about sihr? The prophet :saws: was inflicted with sihr as we are told. How did they rid him of it? Can sihr only be removed by finding the physical location?

 

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He who fears Allah, the whole of creation will fear him.

Scimi

It's not that simple.

I've seen a Jinn manifest in a person before, and it left with me severe anxiety/fear for around 6 months.

How are you not afraid of what the Jinn can do? Obviously nothing/no one is greater than Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala. But these things are overwhelming.

 

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

If a person's heart contains the fear of Allaah Ta`aalaa, then the fear of everything else does not enter it, whether it be fear of other people, or Jinn, or animals, or anything else.

There is nothing to fear from the Jinn or from any human being, because they are powerless. Only Allaah Ta`aalaa has power. The Jinn can do only that little which Allaah Ta`aalaa allows them to do; nothing more. It is the same with human beings.

That is why Allaah Ta`aalaa says in the Qur'aan:

فلا تخافوهم وخافون إن كنتم مؤمنين

{"So do not fear them, but fear Me, if indeed you are Mu'mineen."}​

 

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Perhaps the fear reflects a deficiency in one's emaan?

It is obvious there is nothing/no one to fear except Him, and the mind acknowledges that, yet when the time comes, there is fear.

Or maybe these things are meant for the 'men' to take over, and not 'women'.

Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala indeed Knows best.

 

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If the jinn were truly powerful, they'd be attacking us all the time - I believe we can hurt them more than they can hurt us. And it takes some doing for one to possess an human.

Nothing to fear but fear itself. And yet, fearing the Lord is wise, due to the Love we have for HIM, we do not wish to disobey Him and so we fear disobeying HIM more than anything else - it's a liberating feeling

Scimi

 

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:jz:

I've had sisters approach me to perform ruqyah, but you have to understand there's nothing pious/righteous about me, so I felt overwhelmed and declined (due to a previous experience).

Now I'm questioning my decision, as to whether I should have done it or not (I'm not an expert in this field either).

 

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:jz:

I've had sisters approach me to perform ruqyah, but you have to understand there's nothing pious/righteous about me, so I felt overwhelmed and declined (due to a previous experience).

Now I'm questioning my decision, as to whether I should have done it or not (I'm not an expert in this field either).

Do you mean they wish to perform rukya on you? or want you to perform rukya on them? And what is it for? Possession? or health and wellbeing?

Scimi

 

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Do you mean they wish to perform rukya on you? or want you to perform rukya on them? And what is it for? Possession? or health and wellbeing?

Scimi

They wanted me to perform ruqyah on them, one is a verified 'possession' case, and the other was for health.

My query is: I'm not an expert in this field, but as they didn't feel comfortable going to a male Raaqi, did I do right in declining?

I don't want to be questioned on the Day of Judgement regarding this, and be told that I turned away from someone who sought my help.

(Astaghfirullaah).

 

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Let me put it to you like this, if I asked a baker to help me build an house, would that be logical?

No.

You're not trained for this.

You did the right thing.

Scimi

 

[Butterfly]

How come all these courses happen in the UK? Anyone known in the US?

 

[ZeeshanParvez]

Can you learn kung fu from a book?

No.

So why do you expect to learn Rukya, which deals with the invisible, by reading about it? The lessons are practical, and have to be attended.

Writing about it here, will risk members attempting to do rukya for posession cases by themselves and with no experience - endangering themselves and the patient as well - NOT ADVISED.

This has to be learnt teacher to student.

I made this thread for those who are interested in learning this sunnah and live in and around London UK - as we are attempting to organise learning sessions in controlled environments - the sessions/course is free on the condition that once you have learnt the method - you do not charge the patient or his/her family for your time.

Scimi

I have done Ruqya. I have done it on myself and others. I have also had others do it on others and Ill tell you a fact:

There is nothing more effective than the Recitation of the Qu'raan which is the Kalaam of Allaah. Nor will ever anything be more superior to it. It can't. This is Allaah's Book we are taking about. It is the best cure in existence.

Ruqya from the Qur'aan is proven from the Sunnah.


Narrated Alaqah ibn Sahar at-Tamimi:

Alaqah came to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and embraced Islam. He then came back from him and passed some people who had a lunatic fettered in chains.


His people said: We are told that your companion has brought some good. Have you something with which you can cure him? I then recited Surat al-Fatihah and he was cured. They gave me one hundred sheep. I then came to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and informed him of it.
He asked: Is it only this? The narrator, Musaddad, said in his other version: Did you say anything other than this? I said: No. He said: Take it, for by my life, some accept if for a worthless chain, but you have done so for a genuine one.

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Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 3896



This is not to say that there aren't other forms of Ruqya. Nor is to say that they don't work. However, as a Muslim you should know and believe that nothing works like the Divine Book of Allaah, the Qur'aan. The Glorious Book from the One the Like of whom does not exist.

Additionally, when we are fascinated by something, it leads us to want to find new and more innovative information regarding the subject.

I have had it happen with me in several things in life. The answer is simple and beautiful, staring at me straight in the face. However, my fascination wants me to find more and newer ways.

If anyone has problems with magic of fear, magic of possession, magic of death, evil eye, affects of jealousy, etc. feel free to PM me and Ill tell you how to rid yourself of it for good using the Qur'aan, Sunnah, and the Beautiful Names of Allaah.

 

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I have done Ruqya.

You know, many have without realising it

If you want to know more, contact me privately in sha Allah.

As for the rest of your post Zeeshan young man, I read some of it and yawned. Simply because you did not read this post of mine on the previous page - if you had read it - you would not have posted it.

The Qur'an is rukya - we do not dispute this at all.

The question is about method. There was a clear method which the Prophet Muhammad pbuh utilised in performing rukya for the possessed. This method (and you can check this from the ahadeeth) the Prophet pbuh utilised did not require the recitation of Qur'an.

To further prove that ayaat for recitation over a possessed person are unneccesary - I ask you to look at the cases of possession from the pre-Islamic period of Jahilliyah in Arabia, and other nations whcih all had exorcism taking place - how did they exorcise the jinn? with Quranic ayaat before their revelation? The question is a good one, right? makes one think and become a little uncomfortable in their bias, right? Truth is never convenient.

How did the Prophet pbuh exorcise jinn? One case I will mention in sha Allah.

A woman came to the Prophet pbuh and told him her son (or nephew) was crazy, so the prophet pbuh asked her to fetch him. She went to where the animals were grazing, as she had left her son (or nephew) there, so she made him wear clean clothes and took him to the prophet pbuh. The prophet pbuh said "bring his back to me" so the young man was presented with his back to the prophet pbuh. The prophet then slapped the young man on his back forcefully and commanded the jinn "leave him oh enemy of Allah" and the boys face brightened up and he became free of the possession. From that day forth, he was the most regular in salaat in masjid.

Where were the Qur'anic Ayaat?

We are not saying "do not perform rukya with quranic ayaat" - NO - quite the opposite, Qur'anic ayaat are definietely a form of healing for both, physical and spiritual sicknesses. This is not the issue - the issue is, ignoring the method in lieu of just recitiation because this was never the sunnah of rukya for possession. The sunnah has a method to it. And modern day raqhi's do not follow any method which I can see as authentic.

My teacher performs rukya according to the method of Prophet Muhammad pbuh and also recites the Qur'an over patients as well - he does not tell us to never recite ayaat - quite the contrary, he tells us it is beneficial to do so, but to remember, the method is what allows the raqhi to know if there is a jinn, what type of jinn personality, and where it is located in the body and if there are more than one - and he method can make these jinn manifest in the person within a matter of moments. Contrast to raqhi's who recite for hours on end without getting a reaction out of the patient and you find, the cause is not understanding the method.

The method is very insightful and interesting and cannot be written about - it has to be witnessed and learnt practically.

In sha Allah, I hope this helps.

And Allah knows best.

Scimi

Next time - read the thread bro, save yourself some time posting as it's already covered lol.

Scimi

 

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Is it possible to feel ill/sick due to hasad/ayn after being in the presence of someone else?

For example:

Every time Person A meets/spends time with person B, they feel sick/feverish. This has happened on more than one occasion.

So how can one determine if it is hasad/ayn or if it's just per chance that they tend to fall ill?

 

[M.I.A.]

Is it possible to feel ill/sick due to hasad/ayn after being in the presence of someone else?

For example:

Every time Person A meets/spends time with person B, they feel sick/feverish. This has happened on more than one occasion.

So how can one determine if it is hasad/ayn or if it's just per chance that they tend to fall ill?

i have seen this happen in front of my eyes.

i swear only by allah swt.

...but what can you say? ..what could i say?

honestly nothing suprises me these days.


one day i hope to meet my god.
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...
let me know if it doesnt work that way.



id ask these people what they have their eye on.. but it is often apparent.
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but this is the joke really..

gods plan.

because i dont have one.
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what is the benefit of changing?

i honestly dont know?

https://scientiasalon.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/the-upside-of-delusional-beliefs/



anyway to analyse the situation..

it seemed simply to be the power of suggestion and a question.

it seemed awfully wicked.

...seemed.


you work for me sort of thing..

very hostile.


but i talked to the guy who said it and he was totally unaware of it.

...although language is scarily telling.

ya ceen


like iv said many times.

i have known people that could put you in hospital with a conversation.

...although in the end..

 

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Brother M.I.A - you propose the idea of changing? Why?

What do you mean? I didn't really understand your post.

 

[M.I.A.]

well it seems that there is little benefit in holding ones tongue and preserving ones manners.. and guarding ones actions.

when the world only rewards those that are oblivious of the matter.

you know its very strange.. although even then its a case of interpretation.

you know we are all lead..

but when everyone writes for themselves..

it is difficult to put your faith in other people.

time will tell.

iv not held onto anything.. every day has a start and a finish.

..lol..maybe the word is not work but rather.. coming with.. accompanying..

if not today then maybe tomorrow.

i dont know?

although iv heard some shieks say.. your book is your own.

 

[Umm♥Layth]

well it seems that there is little benefit in holding ones tongue and preserving ones manners.. and guarding ones actions.

when the world only rewards those that are oblivious of the matter.

you know its very strange.. although even then its a case of interpretation.

you know we are all lead..

but when everyone writes for themselves..

it is difficult to put your faith in other people.

time will tell.

iv not held onto anything.. every day has a start and a finish.

..lol..maybe the word is not work but rather.. coming with.. accompanying..

if not today then maybe tomorrow.

i dont know?

although iv heard some shieks say.. your book is your own.

How is this related to the thread? ^o)

 

[M.I.A.]

sigh... lol...

well the easiest way to guard against evil is to maintain good conduct.

..maybe.

although if only to gaurd others from it.

either way.

allah swt is aware of what we reveal and what we conceal.

and sometimes it is better to tell the truth even if it condemns you.

...trying for the re-rail lol.

my apolagese.

some people would eat you alive..

bright futures.

 

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How is this related to the thread? ^o)

I think it's time to use "ignore user" function of the forum lol

Scimi