Multiple fatalities in shooting at Christchurch mosques

The Islamic Emirate condemns this incident in the strongest terms. Attacking innocent worshipers is a sign of absolute hatred and an unforgivable crime.
 
CuriousonTruth said:
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/new-zealand-school-enforces-ban-on-headscarf-25130

Spoke too soon?
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Yeah, I spoke too soon.

As long as they keep attacking our deen, these kind of attacks will keep happening.

Banning the headscarf means u hate Islam.

I can't believe this kind of bigotry is going unnoticed against muslims especially after being targetted for mass murder by someone spewing Anti-Muslim bigotry.

Islamophobia should be treated with the same utmost seriousness as Anti-semitism. This will bring about genocide to Muslims. There needs to be laws against Islamophobia!
 
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Serinity said:
Yeah, I spoke too soon.

As long as they keep attacking our deen, these kind of attacks will keep happening.

Banning the headscarf means u hate Islam.

I can't believe this kind of bigotry is going unnoticed against muslims especially after being targetted for mass murder by someone spewing Anti-Muslim bigotry.

Islamophobia should be treated with the same utmost seriousness as Anti-semitism. This will bring about genocide to Muslims. There needs to be laws against Islamophobia!
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That is an Anglican (religious) school.

While I don't agree with banning hijabs, I don't see how this is particularly controversial, or an attack on the deen.

What would happen if a Catholic student tried to go to an Islamic school in Egypt? Better yet, what if she wore a big crucifix around her neck? Would that school have a right to deny her admittance, or tell her to hide the religious symbol?

And I think we need to remember that westerners aren't even allowed in Saudi Arabia for the most part.

You can expect compassion and accommodation when you, too, provide it.
 
CuriousonTruth said:
As I suspected.

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Nazism is the Zion's tool.

The World Zionist congress had cooperated with the Nazi movement. No jew in Europe wanted to go and live in the Middle East and the religious jews opposed creation of Israel as a heresy. The Zionists helped Nazis to bypass the economic embargoes in turn of kicking out jews from Europe (who in turn would go to Palestine and US) while killing the religious, orthodox jews.

And even today, the far-right is funded entirely by Zionists. Lol Wilders in one year spent more time in Israeli embassy than elsewhere.
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There's all sorts of conspiracy theories brother and if we pay heed to them all we'll loose the sense of reality

One theory however is proven with solid evidence and that is that the jews yield the most power over western politics and they are actively implementing multiculturalism in order to crush white supremacy
 
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Silas said:
That is an Anglican (religious) school.

While I don't agree with banning hijabs, I don't see how this is particularly controversial, or an attack on the deen.

What would happen if a Catholic student tried to go to an Islamic school in Egypt? Better yet, what if she wore a big crucifix around her neck? Would that school have a right to deny her admittance, or tell her to hide the religious symbol?

And I think we need to remember that westerners aren't even allowed in Saudi Arabia for the most part.

You can expect compassion and accommodation when you, too, provide it.
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Well, I dont know why a Muslim would go to a catholic school.. and idk why a Christian would go to an Islamic School. Those are exceptions.

I meant in public schools, to allow muslims to practice their religion as well as Jews/Christians.

Dont get me wrong, I do appreciate the outpouring of support for the Muslims in NZ - Thank you, but that comes with actions too.

I hope in the wake of these attacks we all see the disease of Islamophobia and start to combat it.

No group of humans deserve to be mass slaughtered like that in their place of worship. In this case, a masjid...

Arabia is an exception. I am sorry if I offended you.
 
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Serinity said:
Well, I dont know why a Muslim would go to a catholic school.. and idk why a Christian would go to an Islamic School. Those are exceptions.

I meant in public schools, to allow muslims to practice their religion as well as Jews/Christians.

Dont get me wrong, I do appreciate the outpouring of support for the Muslims in NZ - Thank you, but that comes with actions too.

I hope in the wake of these attacks we all see the disease of Islamophobia and start to combat it.

No group of humans deserve to be mass slaughtered like that in their place of worship. In this case, a masjid...

Arabia is an exception. I am sorry if I offended you.
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Muslims should be able to wear the hijab in public school (or even the niqab). I think most people agree on that.

Some Muslims attend Christian schools in the west, because these schools might offer a better education. I personally think the Muslims should be able to wear the hijab there too, but the administration might be more strict in an effort to preserve the school's Christian character. If it is a private, religious institution, they can set the rules, just as an Islamic school could.
 
AbdullahAziz said:
There's all sorts of conspiracy theories brother and if we pay heed to them all we'll loose the sense of reality

One theory however is proven with solid evidence and that is that the jews yield the most power over western politics and they are actively implementing multiculturalism in order to crush white supremacy
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lol no that's nonsense. It's best if you don't pay attention to Russian and white nationalist propaganda.

Modern West was made to a large extent by jews themselves. When Ottomans sieged Vienna in 1683, one Jew named Samuel Oppenheimer spent massive funds to provide supplies to the garrison in Vienna that allowed them to survive till the Polish army came to attack the Ottomans.

Quran 5:51

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

And Samuel Oppenheimer was the mentor of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who later went on to establish the richest family in history.

Europe wouldn't be as economically strong without its jewish patrons that have kept it alive and strong. Every European country is massively in debt to sustain their high living standards. USA has $13 trillion is debt and this will keep rising.

My further suggestion is that don't listen to Imran Hossein and the sort.
 
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lol no that's nonsense. It's best if you don't pay attention to Russian and white nationalist propaganda.

Modern West was made to a large extent by jews themselves. When Ottomans sieged Vienna in 1683, one Jew named Samuel Oppenheimer spent massive funds to provide supplies to the garrison in Vienna that allowed them to survive till the Polish army came to attack the Ottomans.

Quran 5:51

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

And Samuel Oppenheimer was the mentor of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who later went on to establish the richest family in history.

Europe wouldn't be as economically strong without its jewish patrons that have kept it alive and strong. Every European country is massively in debt to sustain their high living standards. USA has $13 trillion is debt and this will keep rising.

My further suggestion is that don't listen to Imran Hossein and the sort.
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Lol it's not Russian propaganda. Hitler wiped out 6 million jews right? And there is a minority of white neo nazi presence all over the West and we've seen the white masses can be manipulated to vote for them ... so it makes sense that Jews would want to get rid of white racism by making them used to a multi cultural society as they wouldn't want to risk another holocaust

And it's not only about preventing a holocaust, white supremacists resent the fact that Jews pull the strings of their governments and reemergence of nazism will overthrow the power of jews

And I've seen untold evidences for it too but don't want to get into all of that so let's leave it and be careful of being carried away by crackpot conspiracy theories out there
 
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AbdullahAziz said:
Lol it not Russian propaganda. Hitler wiped out 6 million jews right? And there is a minority of white neo nazi presence all over the West and we've seen the white masses can be manipulated to vote for them ... so it's makes sense that Jews would want to get rid of white racism by making them used to a multi cultural society as they wouldn't want to risk another holocaust

And it's not only about preventing a holocaust, white supremacists resent the fact that Jews pull the strings of their governments and reemergence of nazism will overthrow the power of jews

And I've seen untold evidences for it too but don't want to get into all of that so let's leave it and be careful of being carried away by crackpot conspiracy theories out there
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No that's not entirely correct. Hitler and the other right-wingers deported the majority of the secular, educated jews in cooperation with world zionist congress, in return for bypassing economic embargoes placed on Germany by the Allies. It was mainly the poorer, religious jews who were religious and useless to the Zionist cause left behind for the Nazis to do as they like.

I understand it is very easy for certain muslims to fall through the white nationalist rabbit-hole because of Israel and the action of the jews there. But Israel exists BECAUSE of the Zionists' cooperation with Nazis, otherwise they'd be stuck in Tel Aviv and wouldn't be able to expand.
 
I think we all have to carefully look at our own hearts. As a son of white Europeans I can honestly say that I do not want Islam to be the majority religion or culture in Europe. I want it to be Christian. But that is not racist. If they are Arab Christians, praise God. That said, His Will is almighty and it is much better for Europe to become Muslim than to sink into immoral atheism, which is what is happening. Also, this terrorist was a racist, not a Christian. He wants Europe to stay white, which is stupid. We all come from Africa anyway.
 
https://youtu.be/zcng-tMzTHY

Great support from the PM, I wish I had her as leader in the country I live in..

May Allah bless New Zealand with sincerity, goodness and mercy. May Allah bless the PM with guidance and the whole nation too. Ameen.

Such great solidarity I wish I had in Denmark.
 
Good brother said:
Authorities must have an active role in eliminating the tree of hate that's being fed by islamophobic terrorists all over the social media.
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This is totally wrong. I am horrified at how Muslims are reacting, they are getting everything wrong. The most reasonable responses have been from white nationalists themselves, and I am not white, so I am not on their side. Most white nationalists have condemned this shooting. Unlike Muslims, they understand who the real enemy is. The real enemy is the alliance of liberalism and judaism. They understand that Islam is not their enemy. Muslims should understand that white nationalists are not their enemy either. This shooter no more represents white nationalists than Muslim terrorists represent Islam. Sane Muslims should ally with white nationalists against liberalism and judaism. White nationalists just want some place of their own. I wouldn't be welcome there and neither would others here. So what? I wouldn't want to go there anyway. But that shouldn't prevent an alliance against the real source of evil - liberalism and judaism.

This rant was prompted by the Jumah talk I heard today praising the reaction of New Zealand. That's insane because that is exactly what the shooter wanted. In fact here are quotes from his manifesto:

"Why did you carry out the attack?"

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"To agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to cause them to overextend their own hand and experience the eventual and inevitable backlash as a result."

"To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the invaders currently occupying European soil."


In short, the call for a crackdown on white nationalists because of this shooting is exactly analogous to a call for a crackdown on Islam because of a Muslim terrorist attack.
 
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But dont white nationalists hate all non whites and hate Islam?

What is a white nationalist anyway?

Someone who wants an all white nation even if it means to do genocide because we have blacks?

It is racist and dumb to believe that Islam is the religion of arabs, it is the religion for every color.
 
Serinity said:
But dont white nationalists hate all non whites and hate Islam?
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No, they just don't want live with other races. And they don't seem to really care about religion.

What is a white nationalist anyway?
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Glad you asked. Here is an idiot interviewing a white nationalist followed by his explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFh1H_wDSEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZa4dhxZObg

Someone who wants an all white nation even if it means to do genocide because we have blacks?
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White nationalists are not Nazis. They don't want to genocide anyone. They just want their own racist safe space.

I discussed this at my mosque last Saturday. I was told that there are some Muslim Arab tribes that have their own land and don't intermarry. This is exactly the same as what white nationalists want, and it is part of Islam.
 
White nationalists are not compatible with Islam unless the Muslims make a pledge of shirk and happen to be white...Many popular white nationalists with massive followings on social media have made it clear they do not want to live in peace with Islam, but are OK with Saudis style Islam and if that's Islam then I am Jesus Christ.
 
fschmidt said:
This is totally wrong. I am horrified at how Muslims are reacting, they are getting everything wrong. The most reasonable responses have been from white nationalists themselves, and I am not white, so I am not on their side. Most white nationalists have condemned this shooting. Unlike Muslims, they understand who the real enemy is. The real enemy is the alliance of liberalism and judaism. They understand that Islam is not their enemy. Muslims should understand that white nationalists are not their enemy either. This shooter no more represents white nationalists than Muslim terrorists represent Islam. Sane Muslims should ally with white nationalists against liberalism and judaism. White nationalists just want some place of their own. I wouldn't be welcome there and neither would others here. So what? I wouldn't want to go there anyway. But that shouldn't prevent an alliance against the real source of evil - liberalism and judaism.

This rant was prompted by the Jumah talk I heard today praising the reaction of New Zealand. That's insane because that is exactly what the shooter wanted. In fact here are quotes from his manifesto:

"Why did you carry out the attack?"

...

"To agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to cause them to overextend their own hand and experience the eventual and inevitable backlash as a result."

"To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the invaders currently occupying European soil."


In short, the call for a crackdown on white nationalists because of this shooting is exactly analogous to a call for a crackdown on Islam because of a Muslim terrorist attack.
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White nationalists (the far right) are our enemies. It's us (and all other non-whites) they don't want in 'their' countries. Yes, uptil before this attack, their attacks have been on government targets (except 1997 attack on Brixton blacks and a gay pub and brick lane Asians), however it was only a matter of time before we were targeted as in their view, it achieves one of their goals in making us want to leave these countries and not want to come here.

And in the words of that monster, "it depletes our numbers"

Far right groups like BNP, Britain first and edl have all marched against Muslims and are constantly hstemongering/inciting violence against us, so it beats me how someone can be so deluded to say that we are not their enemy.

In the grand scheme of things, the jews are their main enemy and we are the pawns, but enemies too nonetheless!

Who would you say are the most moderate white nationalists?, UKIP?, Well they've just recruited the vicious racist yob tommy robinson as their political advisor!
 
beleiver said:
White nationalists are not compatible with Islam unless the Muslims make a pledge of shirk and happen to be white...Many popular white nationalists with massive followings on social media have made it clear they do not want to live in peace with Islam, but are OK with Saudis style Islam and if that's Islam then I am Jesus Christ.
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Evidence please.
 

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