what is god?

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yoke said:
If i wanted to really get involved in a serious debate i normally would not entertain religious people. If anyone wants a serious debate you will have to prove you have some credentials.
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Why dont you prove yourself worthy first? What are YOUR credentials?
 
lolwatever said:
oh come on that's not fair, who else but the people who understand the religion would know how to handle this stuff? what, you want to debate with another athiest about this matter?
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good one :sl:

but let the guy/girl speak a word
 
i don't mind debating with a religious person but i will not organize it if anyone comes up with a good proposal i might agree to it. If not i have a lot other things to do.
 
you're playing victim now... wasnt us who started this stuff, we're pretty happy with our beliefs... it's you who wants to know, not us.
 
I am very happy with my beliefs as well. if this is the end of it thats fine by me.
 
yoke said:
I am very happy with my beliefs as well. if this is the end of it thats fine by me.
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hey what's stopping you from using drugs and stuff if your an atheist what's giving yu the morrals?
PEACE
 
If you want to debate go for it. Bring up a worth topic or even come up with some good points for this topic if you have any.
 
yoke said:
i don't mind debating with a religious person but i will not organize it if anyone comes up with a good proposal i might agree to it. If not i have a lot other things to do.
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Ok here's a proposal: Just you and me, one on one. You can chose the arena. Either on this forum and we ask others not to participate, or with Pm, or you cuold pm me to ask my Msn or google adress to use instant messenger. I'll let my arguments be my credentials.

I understand if you have better things to do, and don't feel like answering all our points, but then you shouldn't have started this thread in teh first place.
 
^^ i agree, maybe the mods can assign a thread with user privilages.. and when they're done, make the thread available to public? dunno if vB that functional tho
 
dawud don't reply.

yoke, now answr steve's proposal.
 
steve said:
Ok here's a proposal: Just you and me, one on one. You can chose the arena. Either on this forum and we ask others not to participate, or with Pm, or you cuold pm me to ask my Msn or google adress to use instant messenger. I'll let my arguments be my credentials.

I understand if you have better things to do, and don't feel like answering all our points, but then you shouldn't have started this thread in teh first place.
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I will have to think about it because of other commitments but i will let you know on this forum what i decide.
 
blah, then why did u come up with the idea of a debate in the first place
 
yoke said:
most people are naturally good.
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Since what you said in a another topic was probably a mistake, I forgive you. I have not invented a new religion. In all religions interpretation differs, and my interpretation is just one you have not heard of before.

Islam says people are not just naturally good, but that they are naturally Muslims. Everyone is born as a Muslim, but their environment makes them an atheist or a Jew or a Christian (or what ever else you may be).

It is not a good idea to try to make somebody lose their religion, even if you think atheism is correct. Religious people like me are deeply attatched to their faith, and I would become extremely deppressed if I lost it. As Root said, religious people tend to live longer and happier lives.
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Fishman said:
:sl:
Since what you said in a another topic was probably a mistake, I forgive you. I have not invented a new religion. In all religions interpretation differs, and my interpretation is just one you have not heard of before.

Islam says people are not just naturally good, but that they are naturally Muslims. Everyone is born as a Muslim, but their environment makes them an atheist or a Jew or a Christian (or what ever else you may be).
:w:
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Yes i am sure nobody here just believed because they where born into it and are you you trying to tell me that the majority of Muslims checked out all the evidence why people believe it is false i don't think so. Everybody knows that most Muslims come from Muslim countries
 
Alpha Dude said:
Yes, this ability to recognise good from wrong whilst recognising God is termed 'Fitrah':

30:30 So turn your face to the pure path of monotheism in accordance with the fitrah which God has instilled in mankind. No change shall there be in [the nature] of God's creation. That is the upright path, but most among mankind know not.
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the BOLD ITALIC, UNDERLINED REFERS TO YOU yoke
 
It doesn't matter where most muslims come from. Even a muslim from a muslim country has the ability (and right) to ask questions and investigate his faith.
As for me, I was born in Belgium, a western country. My mother is catholic and my father was an atheist. I was raised to mke up my own mind, and up untill recently I was an atheist, just like you, untill I took the efford to actually check Islam out, look up the evidence, question the ideals, and found it to be perfect. So perfect I could not dney it. And you'll find many more like me on this particular forum.
 
look at what i found in the Quran :

[20:16] "Do not be diverted therefrom by those who do not believe in it - those who pursue their own opinions - lest you fall.

what i coincidence
 
steve said:
It doesn't matter where most muslims come from. Even a muslim from a muslim country has the ability (and right) to ask questions and investigate his faith.
As for me, I was born in Belgium, a western country. My mother is catholic and my father was an atheist. I was raised to mke up my own mind, and up untill recently I was an atheist, just like you, untill I took the efford to actually check Islam out, look up the evidence, question the ideals, and found it to be perfect. So perfect I could not dney it. And you'll find many more like me on this particular forum.
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If it makes you happy and you are not harming anybody else because of your faith then good luck to you. I know there is no god.
 
oh... fine, be like that... thanks for wasting our time then

(some mod might as well just plug this in the recycle bin..)
 
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