Meat from Australia

[Woodrow]

Actually we Malaysians rely SO MUCH on that logo in order to consume something .... at least we are secured....... the cert of halaal should be renew anually, thus it means that every year a religious officer from JAKIM will check how they did those things.... the place (is it clean or not) ... then he could renew the halal certificate..

I've heard that it's hard to find halal products in Indonesia and Turkey...

That seems to be true. If I remember right the import restrictions do not require halal certification on everything.

 

[manaal]

Sadly the bread yeast produces alcohol too. That is why fresh baked bread has a "Beer" smell. It is the fermenting in the dough that makes the dough rise.

But that does not necesserily make it haraam. The alcohol referred here is not an intoxicant. There's a difference between the 2 terms.

 

[north_malaysian]

That seems to be true. If I remember right the import restrictions do not require halal certification on everything.

My father's friend went to Jakarta, he felt hungry and saw a restaurant with big ARABIC word of Bismillahirahmanirrahim display in front of it.... when he saw the menu ...... ROAST PORK!!!

 

[Woodrow]

But that does not necesserily make it haraam. The alcohol referred here is not an intoxicant. There's a difference between the 2 terms.

That is another one of those areas in which there is no pure concensus on it. I could probably put up a good arguement for either view.

 

[manaal]

So, don't you eat any bread, bagels, do-nuts, etc.? Most of us don;t have much of choice do we? Allah knows best.

 

[syilla]

This link has several home made cheese recipes. Plus some other stuff. Notice nearly all of these recipes will be haraam unless you use halaal rennet. For home use on the cheeses that call for rennet you can use about a tablespoon of lemon juice instead of the rennet and get a good halal cheese it will not be as firm as the ones made with rennet, but in my opinion will taste better and be halal.

Also note that the recipes for Root beer and ginger ale will also be haraam as they are made with yeast.

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Fankhauser/Cheese/Cheese.html

:uuh:

i think i better not eat McD...or anything that has cheese...:heated:

i remember some of the prophet and sahabah stories......they make their own food...starting from the plant...it self....They say its better to work hard than eating non-halal...

Better safe then never...:-\

 

[north_malaysian]

For me if the products or the premises which sell food etc with 'halal' guaranteed... I have no problem consuming it.... because the company guaranteed their products are halaal..... If it's not halal, but they guaranteed those products as halal.... it's between them and God.... i'm just a consumer that have 100% faith in their halal guarantee...

 

[Woodrow]

So, don't you eat any bread, bagels, do-nuts, etc.? Most of us don;t have much of choice do we? Allah knows best.

Among the people I know here in Austin they are split about in half. Some will not eat any bakery products that are mad with yeast and the re rest will. The ones that do not eat breads made with yeast eat things like corn bread, chappatis, tortillas, cakes and pastries made with baking powder or egg yolks to make them rise . Many breads and pastries are made with out yeast. So are most cookie, cake, waffle, crepe, pancakes and puff pastries

Here are some interesting recipes for yeast and non-yeast breads

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Non-yeast%20bread

 

[syilla]

Among the people I know here in Austin they are split about in half. Some will not eat any bakery products that are mad with yeast and the re rest will. The ones that do not eat breads made with yeast eat things like corn bread, chappatis, tortillas, cakes and pastries made with baking powder or egg yolks to make them rise . Many breads and pastries are made with out yeast. So are most cookie, cake, waffle, crepe, pancakes and puff pastries

Here are some interesting recipes for yeast and non-yeast breads

http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Non-yeast%20bread

i think i'll have a slimmer figure if i eat halal food that i really really confident it is halal...

 

[north_malaysian]

chappatis, tortillas, cakes and pastries made with baking powder or egg yolks to make them rise .

I just had chuppatis for breakfast .... yummy!!!!

 

[syilla]

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woodrow... i need some tips here of what to eat everyday...

i'm trying to be a vegetarian for a week....(well i think i've eaten too much chicken and fish).

can you please share with me what you eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner...

i try to eat only veges...but i can't...all of the food that i can find contains fish or chicken meat.

i don't think eating too much fruits are healthy...i mean eating it for breakfast lunch and dinner...fruits contain quite alot of sugar.

 

[Woodrow]

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woodrow... i need some tips here of what to eat everyday...

i'm trying to be a vegetarian for a week....(well i think i've eaten too much chicken and fish).

can you please share with me what you eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner...

i try to eat only veges...but i can't...all of the food that i can find contains fish or chicken meat.

i don't think eating too much fruits are healthy...i mean eating it for breakfast lunch and dinner...fruits contain quite alot of sugar.

I don't think you would like my current diet. i'm now stuck basicaly on stuff like Ensure, Nutriment, Pediolyte and supplements




If I still had my choices I would eat about 4 to 6 small meals spread throughout the day. I'm a big fan of raw veggies, stuff like Broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, celery etc. Four of the meals would be veggies mostly raw. About 2 cups at each meal. Another meal would be all fruits in season about 2 cups and the 6th meal would be either 2 cups of a starch and one cup of a poultry/fish product. Or 2 cups of a startch and one cup of a cooked veggie. In the past that was how my typical day went, no distinction as to what was breakfast, lunch or whatever.

 

[syilla]

^^^i'll try to follow your diet

thanks for sharing...

my lunch today is celery with peanut butter (no sugar added) - i brought from home :nervous:

 

[manaal]

Bro Woodrow you are really informed about food aren;t you? hee hee. Really good point about chappaties and non-yeast breads. We do have a choice, so I have to take back what i said earlier. Only trouble snadwiches are so much easier to eat when you're on the run!

My parents have noew almosts completely stopped eating bread and have brown rice for brealfast instead. Their main reasons are
A) Its more economical (price 1 pound of bread = price of 2 1/2 pounds of rice ... 1 pound of rice makes more meals than 1 pound of bread)
B) Its healthier - more fibre in rice than bread


Sis Syllia, I agree with you that eating halaal really wold slim us down. Why diet when you have Islam? I mean seriously.

 

[syilla]

^^^^yup u r right...

some of the girls are so obsessed with their figure...but sometimes they forget that they have eaten the wrong stuff...

 

[Curaezipirid]

Alaikum Assalam,
oops about that meat disinformation story since I am potentially ever source of, but, I can explain! :Crescent: :inshallah fftopic: (hey that is not off the topic!) (I gave myself an excuse to make more words amid my embarrased faces.:uuh: (shh):rollseyes (uh oh!) none of these faces seem nearly consternated enough. ah : :-\ (perfect!)offended: )

However, the meat issue is this: that eating Halal meat has usually the action upon the body of causing that there is less kafir during the physical acquittal; but Australian's have a different solution that has the opposite interaction when meat of the indigenous fauna is eaten. But it is also slaughtered Halal, more or less, in that all due respect is given Allah and the animal. But it is the the Indigenous belief is Animist, and there was long already a form of Islam adapted to this. (five pillars accounted for with Hajj being a journey through ancestrally known land to find that which you will become turned into upon physical Human form acquittal) This has long now been our way, and always for enough of us, that we include persons whom can not comprehend existing as Human beings without first as animals to help account for the future Human life. But that is not yet about meat, except to say that a good hunter will look for the beast with Human will to be next to die.:rant: (I know you all so disagree) (But this is not black magic it is the reality of the entire Human existance of many of us, and the fact of being turned into an animal helps to know that black magic is not real.)

However, in the meat situation, it is that when a person whom has been Praying and eating Halal meat is acquitting their body, the dendrites part of the neurones dies before the central portion. Whereas, when an Australian Aborigine dies it is the other way around, but kafir is totally prevented because we all live sustaining conviction that we will only form animal selves. So we are good at stuff like x-ray paintings of fish, and turtles, and dugong, and kangaroos etc.

Now, it is that I tempted an actual nazi to suppose that because of this it is that Islam and Aboriginal initiations are provenly scientifically incompatible. But all the while knowing that in fact there are a considerable number of Aborigines already dying more as any Muslims are, and always we are as that time of first conversion.

So the answer is: cheese depends upon what the rennet is; but the label always tells if it is Halal. Meat depends upon the slaughter method, and that the beast experiences no fear during, that is what makes it Halal.

We'd all prefer Halal, but I seem to have had a conversation with a Halal butcher in which he intimated that there has already been some level of enquiry into whether Kangaroo can be considered Halal. (it is very very lean and rich, stronger in flavour than venison, and less fat, but yummier than any beef)(but that yummy flavour could be the kangaroos fear hormones in the meat that I have eaten)

Now there is another strand of the meat story that relates to how many persons have all eated of the same beast with the same genetic, and if only one of those persons is Imam to the fact of eating meat (a sin of hate of slaughtering to live, even when Halal), then how many persons are culpable? Australians are likely candidates.

There is one other aspect of the meat story. I know a fellow who lives in Girrawheen street in Braddon ACT called Nick, who dragged himself through intensive session of counselling therapy (re-evaluation co-counselling for those who know about such manifestations of preponderance upon the absurd) after intensive session of counselling therapy, after intensive session of counselling therapy: all to get over the fact that his family were being very bad and devious in selling cattle. That family are who made the profits from the live beef exporting industry. This part 'I DID NOT DO', that being the part in which the export of live beef, so as to enable Halal slaughter in the Middle East (I expect we are quite able to here, and then corn the beef as is suggested might already be the case), is factually very very cruel to the cattle. Poor Nick, whilst inheriting his millions was terribly sad about all those cattle who had to travel a very long way in miserable conditions that no Human could be expected to tolerate, (why would we let our selves be turned into cows only to have to be feed to Arabs as not quite so Halal as it should be beef), and were so cruely treated that it could even be an RSPCA matter. Sort of undoing the basic premise of Halal slaughter as an honouring of life.

all in all the whole matter is driving me to vegetarianism: :grumbling Peach Pomegranite and Kangaroo Koresh is truly delicious, but the lentil and cauliflower and tamarind, is just as vitally sustaining, wasalam

 

[manaal]

Geez, you confused me a little there sis. I have a few questions:
Who exactly see themselves as turninginto animals Did you mean this metophorically??

However, in the meat situation, it is that when a person whom has been Praying and eating Halal meat is acquitting their body, the dendrites part of the neurones dies before the central portion. Whereas, when an Australian Aborigine dies it is the other way around, but kafir is totally prevented because we all live sustaining conviction that we will only form animal selves. So we are good at stuff like x-ray paintings of fish, and turtles, and dugong, and kangaroos etc.

Can you explain the above in a more simple way please? Who are referring to as "we"?

I understand your justification about the cattle being shipped to Saudi and how that can't qualify as halaal. But the rest of it was really really confusing................

 

[Curaezipirid]

Alaikum assalam,

thankyou for your precise question, I will try to answer here briefly, but I can only use the computer for another five minutes, so perhaps the answer here will not be as detailed as it needs.

First I can say that when I say "we" I am usually speaking about Aboriginal Australian Jinn, but also including those Humans whom for a very long time now, have also perceived that there is a beneficience in the practise of believing that the Soul has previously resided in an animal form, and by will, can again.

All Aboriginal Australians whom retain our culture believe that we were existing in other life forms prior to the Human form, and that here after, we will again. It is a form of the fire. But Aboriginal Australians accept that the fire is for all among us equitably, and have since long before we received Qur'an at the height of the Islamic Empire. Shaytan among us are not able to turn into animals, but can equitably turn into birds and insects.

One of the major benefits is that in any act of kafir. Many of us sustain memory of previously existing within animal forms. The experience is less than pleasant and conducive to desire to live without sin in Human form. Yet it is also most tolerable, and is in fact only tempering us toward that visit to Hell. Many of us knew of the necessity of long ago, and there are persons here whom have been enabled to remember even through existing as animals, that before Noah, persons at this place, Australia, were receiving images of what is here now. Many Australians are very frightened, but also very well tempered to the inevitable, and will accept in immediate death only has we long have been already. I am being asked to leave the library computer now, and so will answer further as asked it any need, thankyou,
mu'asalam.

 

[Curaezipirid]

Alaikum assalam

I need add here: the process I described of death of a neurone, is that of an Aboriginal person (and community) according animal bodies to all and any kafir, that is, the process by which the central part of the neurone dies before the dendrites. Normally in Muslims, and accorded by all Halal, it is more likely to be dendrites die first to the central part of the funcition.

But it is proven that when Humans are both Aborigine and Muslim both live longer experienced ability to acquite the body more thoroughly; but shaytan can accord the opposite, they sort of cancel each other out.

It is that nazis grabbed this fact in assumption that Aboriginality and Islam would always cancel each other out, when in fact are perfectly compatible. Even for any shaytan, so long as it is accorded kafir precisely upon death (which bird species and what sort of Ant is it etc)

This is but one example of many such assumptions about what can and can not be reconcilied, that the actual reconciling of can hide the fact of reconciliation.

Base line is, if you eat Halal camels you might wonder why your brain is on you back, and if you eat kangaroo you might wonder why your brain is in your tail (what tail!)

It is that Halal meat discourages kafir, and Australians meat encourages that kafir are only animal in form thus unable to cause much harm, usually.

Shaytan kafir and more normally all sorts of insects.

But I have advocated for Halal Kangaroo so as that both effects are accorded. I once came face to face with a kafir of me, and I must say, I prefered the red setter dog, also of me.

eat

mu'asalam