U.S. Launches Attack on Suspected Al Qaeda Members in Somalia

[Islamicboy]

its not that bad, its good, usa will now lose in afghan, iraq, and somalia, a trinity of losses for them. their already losing in afghanistan, losing badly in iraq, and they will also lose in somalia as they did in the 90's somalia may be poor, but they arent weak and know how to fight against those yankee cowboys. i dont see it as a negative thing if usa attacks us, because i see change, i see muslims rising up and fighting usa and eventually setting up an islamic state like their doing in iraq, and will do in afghan, and will do again in somalia, and that just makes a united islamic front

I agree with that Iraq was a very secular nation until america attacked it now they are fighting for shariah.

 

[Trumble]

I agree with that Iraq was a very secular nation until america attacked it now they are fighting for shariah.

A couple of questions for both you and Sami Zaatari;

Who do you believe is "fighting for Sharia" in Iraq, as opposed to fighting for any other reason, and;

Who do you believe the US will "lose in Iraq" to ?

 

[Woodrow]

A couple of questions for both you and Sami Zaatari;

Who do you believe is "fighting for Sharia" in Iraq, as opposed to fighting for any other reason, and;

Who do you believe the US will "lose in Iraq" to ?

We will eventualy loose Iraq to Iran. After many years of helping Iraq defend itself against Iran we are in essence, handing Iraq to Iran.

Facts and truth, Iraq and Iran - One outcome of the American invasion is that it has generated a much more uncompromising "fundamentalist" politico-ideological constellation in Iraq. This has led to a predominance of the pro-Iranian political forces there — the intervention basically delivered Iraq to Iranian influence. One can imagine how, if President George W. Bush were to be court-martialed by a Stalinist judge, he would be instantly condemned as an "Iranian agent." -IHT 1/6/07

Source: http://www.netnative.com/news/

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

HAHA Keitol, what did i say to you in the other thread??

U.S ARE INVOLVED ALL THE WAY. You said 'No it's all Ethiopia' lol.

May God grant victory to the mujahdeen if they are righteous.

 

[Keltoi]

HAHA Keitol, what did i say to you in the other thread??

U.S ARE INVOLVED ALL THE WAY. You said 'No it's all Ethiopia' lol.

May God grant victory to the mujahdeen if they are righteous.

This is really two different things. The U.S. has been hunting for these Al-Qaeda members for a long time, since the embassy bombings. This is hardly a sign that the U.S. is behind the actions of Ethiopia. May God grant victory to the righteous indeed...on that we agree.

 

[sudais1]

na'ala american kan, wadnka ka baha

curse, Ethiopia, America, get out of Somalia, there was more peace with the Islamic Court

allahuma iqwannal Mujahideen fe Somal :amin:

 

[Islamicboy]

A couple of questions for both you and Sami Zaatari;

Who do you believe is "fighting for Sharia" in Iraq, as opposed to fighting for any other reason, and;

Who do you believe the US will "lose in Iraq" to ?

Mujahideen are fighting for Shariah. America will lose Iraq to the mujahideen inshallah who follow Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed S.A.W

 

[Chuck]

Who do you believe the US will "lose in Iraq" to ?

More or less, Iran is running the show in Iraq.

 

[Woodrow]

It is difficult for us here far away from Somalia to say what is best. The news stories of course will be biased. But here are a few stories from around the world. Perhaps the truth is in them some place.

From Somalia's neighbor Kenya:

Our policy on Somalia left a lot to be desired

Story by MACHARIA GAITHO
Publication Date: 1/9/2007
The jury is still out on what will unfold in Somalia following capture of Mogadishu by the Ethiopian-backed transitional government. Maybe the once-hapless administration will gradually impose its rule on the capital and the rest of the country.

Or maybe the Islamic Courts Union forces that melted away with the advance of the Ethiopian troops will regroup and launch an insurgency that will remind the Ethiopians of that painful lesson yet to be digested by the American occupiers in Iraq.

But one thing that nobody can doubt is that while Kenya dithered and hee-hawed, Ethiopia moved bravely and decisively once it determined that the spectre of a Somali Taliban on its front door posed grave threats to its security and strategic interests.

The installation of an administration in Somalia that consorted with international terrorists posed even more of a danger to Kenya.

Our democratic and liberal traditions also make Kenya much less security conscious than Ethiopia, which still retains elements of its rigid totalitarian-military-communist past. We have twice been hit by bombers with a Somali connection that can find a rich array of targets in Kenya.

The Islamists extended their tentacles in Somalia issuing blood-curdling threats of Jihad and reducing to impotence the transitional government we helped install.

An ill-fated American intervention – funding the warlords responsible for Somalia’s mess in the first place – was a downright embarrassment.

While the Ethiopians moved in to back the transitional government, Kenya sat with its arms folded, feigning neutrality, while secretly welcoming the intervention. It was the well-established Kenyan foreign policy: Wait and see.

We waited and saw, and only after the Ethiopians had done the dirty work do we now hear tough talk from our Foreign minister Raphael Tuju in support of the Somali transitional government.

Kenya is now signalling that it is taking action against Islamist supporters who might be wanting to use Kenya as a base while they plot their counter-attacks.

One must wonder, however, why that clear resolve was missing all along until after the Islamists had fled Mogadishu.

Source: http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=25&newsid=89180


From Eritrea:

Egypt's Mubarak, Eritrea's Afwerki discuss stabilizing Somalia


The Associated PressPublished: January 9, 2007






SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt: The Egyptian and Eritrean presidents emphasized Tuesday the need to stabilize war-torn Somalia and the entire Horn of Africa region.


Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's spokesman told journalists following the talks with Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki, "We are working toward achieving calm in order to avert further deterioration in Somalia."


"This should prevent the war lords from returning and clear the way for African Union peace keeping forces be sent (to Somalia)," said Suleiman Awad, the Egyptian spokesman after the leaders met in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik.


Awad said Egypt is also in contacts with other parties to try to resolve the conflict in Somalia.


"This will provide the chance and create the climate for the Ethiopian troops to withdraw," he said.


Somalia has not had an effective government since warlords overthrew longtime dictator Mohammed Siad Barre in 1991, plunging the country into years of anarchy and civil war.


Ethiopian forces invaded Somalia last month to counter an Islamic movement that had challenged the weak, but internationally recognized government in Mogadishu.


The government was formed with the help of the U.N. in 2004 to serve as a transitional body to help the country emerge from war, but it has struggled to assert its authority.


Somalia accuses Eritrea of meddling in its affairs by supporting the Islamic group because of Eritrea's hostility toward Ethiopia, which supports the struggling Somalian government.

Source: http://www.dehai.org/


From Djibouti:

Somalia: Djibouti Urges Ethiopia to Pull Its Troops Out


Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu)

January 8, 2007
Posted to the web January 8, 2007

Aweys Osman Yusuf
Mogadishu

Djibouti, a country in the Horn of Africa and a base for US task force, has revealed on Monday that it would never allow a long period presence of Ethiopian troops in its neighboring Somalia.

Mohamood Ali Yusuf, Djibouti's foreign minister, has told Asharqalawsat, an Arabic newspaper based in Britain, that the dire situation and the Ethiopian military presence in Somalia could escalate the tense state in the strife-torn country.


He said his government was concerned that the insecurity and instability in Somalia could spread into the entire Horn of Africa.

He denied that the American Task Force based in his country of Djibouti were involved in the Ethiopian military operations in Somalia.

Asked if any of the Islamist leaders sought a refuge in his country, the minister said, "We gave no asylum to any Islamist and there was no one who asked my government any political asylum".

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200701080493.html

 

[amirah_87]

As Salaamu ALaykum,

SubhanAllah!! :heated:

This Angers me soo much!! :grumbling

 

[Trumble]

Mujahideen are fighting for Shariah. America will lose Iraq to the mujahideen inshallah who follow Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Muhammed S.A.W

Sorry, which side are these 'mujahideen' supposed to be on? Are they the Shi'a killing the Sunnis or the Sunnis killing the Shi'a? Are they those Iraqis who supported Saddam or those that cheered his death? Or are they anybody who might kill Americans regardless of who else they might kill if they get the chance?

 

[Sunflower]

Sorry, which side are these 'mujahideen' supposed to be on? Are they the Shi'a killing the Sunnis or the Sunnis killing the Shi'a? Are they those Iraqis who supported Saddam or those that cheered his death? Or are they anybody who might kill Americans regardless of who else they might kill if they get the chance?

I thought this threat was about somalia. Theres no sectarian issues between happening from there. The situation is completely different so lets try to keep Saddam, Iraq and other off topic things out of it.

 

[Sami Zaatari]

well i always knew somalia would be next on the list for US, and its happening in the exact way i knew it would, there would be a civil fight between somali puppet goverment against the Islamic forces, and eventually USA would step in to help out, but see at the same time my prediction for all of this is that when the US eventually sends troops in this will make another black hawk down episode for america in somalia, not only that i believe many foreign fighters will also flock to somalia as soon as they hear that usa enters somalia, and this will eventually lead to a loss for USA and the puppet somali goverment and an establishment of an Islamic state and a new base for the Islamic forces in the future. history just repeats itself.

 

[Sami Zaatari]

in 10-15 more years all u see happening now will happen again, USA will be attacked again, yet this time the base were Islamic fighters will be at will not be afghanistan but somalia, and usa will make 'war on terror' like they are doing now only now the scene will be somalia and sudan etc, this is prob gonna happen in the next decade, its all a script, a show, all set up i mean the fact you can predict all this stuff so easily and it comes to pass proves it, this is all a show being made by some top ppl who want control and power, war=money, money=power, power= domination, and these ppl want all that. the 'real war' hasnt begun yet folks, what u see is a scripted war, the real war will begin when we all realize that all we see is a show and events that are being set up, and when we realize that thats when the real war will begin.

 

[Woodrow]

A little more news about Somalia.

Yemen and U.S. support Somalia's stability
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Yemen Times Staff




ADEN, Jan. 7 — Jendayi Frazer, Assistant US Secretary of State for African Affairs, urged Yemeni authorities on Saturday to support the Somali people and utilize the best means for achieving that end.

President Saleh in his meeting with Frazer discussed the situation in Somalia and stressed the importance of helping Somali people.

Before her departure and in a press conference held by Foreign Minister Abu Baker Al-Qirbi, Frazer declared she discussed with the Yemeni side how to help Somali people and provide solutions to ensure Somalia's stability via peaceful dialogue between all Somali parties.

She further noted she is for holding talks with Islamic Courts and other parties to make use of their expertise and announced her government decided to grant funding for the Somali government to support peace and stability in Somalia.

Source:http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1014&p=local&a=2

Ethiopians are our natural neighbour but not our natural enemy.

By Ali Osman Samatar




Soon after the collapse of the Dictatorial Military regime in Somalia, Somali people went through a historical anarchic and painful agony which was lead by clan based warlords mainly in the south of Somalia. That period was terminated by so-called Islamic courts that managed a miracle and brought back a remarkable peaceful environment for the people in the major Somali terrible city Mogadishu. However, weeks after the Warlords were expelled from the ex-Somali capital, the Islamists started a holly war against peaceful towns and villages in the South and that reminded me General Adiided’s disastrous crusade operations in many towns in South Somalia like Baidao the city of death. Apart from defeating the warlords in Mogadishu, it is all know to us that the Islmaists couldn’t even manage to establish at least a functioning administration in Mogadishu. They only opened the Airport and the Seaport of Mogadishu in order to cover their financial needs for a holly war from Somalia.

Source: http://www.hiiraan.com/op2/2007/jan/ethiopians_are_our_natural_neighbour_but_not_our_natural_enemy_.aspx

 

[Sami Zaatari]

as you can see also they are now wanting to bring UN into sudan etc etc, its all a script for the next 'war on terror' which they will do on somalia and sudan as they do now on iraq and afghanistan, probaly in 10 years you could say who knows, but it will most likely happen.

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

Try actually reading what I posted. Let me repeat for you;



Ethiopian pilots would also probably approach from the sea. There is no requirement that an attack run be made from the direction of a warplane's base, and usually circumstances (air defences, chance of being detected, etc) will suggest the attack be made from a totally different direction. BTW, there were no US carriers in range of Somalia at that time, so any US attack would have been from land based planes, anyway.

Point taken!

First reason, bombing a runway is a totally different mission from attacking a specific two-man target in one building. Second, and primary, reason, American drones tracked al Qaeda operatives suspected of terrorist attacks against Americans, and they were subsequently hit by an American plane. The operation had nothing to do with Ethiopia, hence, obviously, Ethiopian planes would not be used.

who was the fool that programmed them disgusting things that stalked innocent mothers and farmers and eventually got them killed?

Al jazeera reporters claimed 70 civilians died in those cowardly air-attacks by these terrorists

that's more deaths than 7/7

United States of Terrorists keep pushing my people in the Islamist direction and the ICU will return more powerfull than ever and with concrete support from across the Somali lands in all corners of East Africa

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

It is difficult for us here far away from Somalia to say what is best. The news stories of course will be biased. But here are a few stories from around the world. Perhaps the truth is in them some place.

From Somalia's neighbor Kenya:



Source: http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=25&newsid=89180

Lol half of Kenya is Somali land wich the british illegally handed to the Kenyans half a century ago and wich was under Ajuuraan rule for centuries how dare they claim they have the right to send refugees running away from munafiiqs and Kafiir bombings

look at everybody kicking us when were down, this is a good lesson for all Somali people that none of these neighbours are our friends but only puppets on the paycheck of Uncle Sam and need to be destroyed as soon as we get on our feets and since there is no Soviet Empire to save them we will those son of a {..bleep..}

Somali refugees are the best thing that happend to Kenya's corrupt invested Economy

Eastleigh businesses have also brought tremendous competition to the market place,which has had a negative effect on many of the Asian businesses in particular. The Asian community has hitherto controlled most of the retail business in Kenya, yet the owners of these businesses can now be seen purchasing their wholesale merchandise from Somalis.According to Narayan Mehta, owner of a city centre hardware store,

Most Asians don’t like to admit it, but the Somalis are really cutting into our businesses. They are willing to live and work in Eastlands areas where most Asians won’t even visit -Narayan Mehta

The cornerstone of this development, the famous ‘Garissa Lodge,’ serves today as asymbol of refugee businesses in Eastleigh. Many Somalis resided in this former guesthouse before its transformation into a modern retail shopping mall, officially renamed Little Dubai but popularly referred to as ‘Garissa.’ From small scale ‘black market’trading in hotel rooms, today Garissa houses 58 stalls in which everything from designer clothing to electronics is sold at incredibly cheap prices. Compare the price of, for instance, a ‘real’ Sony radio (be sure, there are many fakes). At Garissa Lodge the goingrate is 350 Ksh. An identical radio sold in the city centre goes for 500 Ksh. In the commercial centre of Westlands, a wealthy suburb, the same radio is sold for 600 Ksh.While this is only one example, the table below shows the price differential of many staple goods and services consumed by the majority of people

Throughout the 1990s Eastleigh was transformed, largely by Somali businessmen,from a residential community to the commercial centre of Eastlands, and increasingly much of Nairobi.

the Somalis have also created work for local Kenyans, many of whom are hired as low-wage, unskilled labourers. More lucrative jobs include working on Somali-owned matatus and as mechanics. With the general infusion of capital in the area, Kenyan residents of the larger Eastlands area, of which Eastleigh is the commercial centre,increasingly turn toward this refugee-dominated section of the city to seek out a meager living. For many, chances to earn a day’s wage are higher in Eastleigh—the informal economy—than the city centre. In fact, most of the large-scale commercial businesses in Eastleigh are now part and parcel of Nairobi’s formal economy, where greater numbers of the city’s residents are increasingly turning for access to cheap goods and livelihood opportunities


Source

today i couldn't even think straight in class the frustration and anger is getting to me i think it's better i take a step back before i say something i will regret

 

[SATalha]

well i always knew somalia would be next on the list for US, and its happening in the exact way i knew it would, there would be a civil fight between somali puppet goverment against the Islamic forces, and eventually USA would step in to help out, but see at the same time my prediction for all of this is that when the US eventually sends troops in this will make another black hawk down episode for america in somalia, not only that i believe many foreign fighters will also flock to somalia as soon as they hear that usa enters somalia, and this will eventually lead to a loss for USA and the puppet somali goverment and an establishment of an Islamic state and a new base for the Islamic forces in the future. history just repeats itself.

Inshallah bro,

 

[Jayda]

hola,

i do not like to talk about politics... but i do think maybe i should say this much... i think bombing people in somolia or afghanistan because of terrorism is wrong and maybe arrogant is not the right word but something like arrogance done in ignorance...

what i mean is that i think if we really think about why the terrorists hate us enough to do 911 maybe there is another answer and we could rethink the things we do in the world that make people feel like this... we intervene with our military in their lives very often and sometimes for ignoble and selfish reasons... and i think that this kind of thing is something america could stop doing and would be much better than bombing them wherever we find them...

i think we should think more about how we can be kinder in the world instead of how we can have revenge... and i think maybe revenge is an illusion always but especially with 911... the people responsible killed themselves... except bin laden who hides behind innocent people as human shields... i think maybe we should think about whether bombing innocent people and taking that bait so that we can have revenge is truly better than accepting we will never have our pound of flesh and should do the right thing and promote peace instead of war...

gracias, Dios te bendiga