Is Islam a violent religion?

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Is Islam a violent religion or a religion that condones violence?

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I don't know about Islam the religion. But I do know that there are a number of muslims that are violent, or at least support violence. Many are peaceful too.
On this very forum we have people that openly support the terrorizing and killing of the children at Beslan school. People that say that they hope that their child will be killed in jihad so that they can be proud. How selfish. To satisfy their pride.
With every kind of violent topic, we have people here that support that violence. The excuses are pathetic.

Look at members like Muezzin and Woodrow. They don't support violence as an answer for everything. Yet there are members here that claim that not supporting certain violent activity is unislamic.
Members that call imams that denounce violence "not muslims".

I don't know about islam itself. But I do know that there are many muslims that are violent.
 
Salaam;

north_malaysian said:
Someone called me unislamic when I eat the noodles using the chopsticks...:blind:
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---i guess , may be they wanted to say , it's Sunnah to eat food by hand. So , some people try to encourage us to follow Sunnah but may be their approach is not so good :cry:

I dont think ,anything is wrong if u use chopsticks....Geee. i tried once.....very hard :p
 
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Salaam/peace ;

SilentObserver said:
I don't know about Islam the religion. But I do know that there are a number of muslims that are violent, or at least support violence. Many are peaceful too.
On this very forum we have people that openly support the terrorizing and killing of the children at Beslan school. People that say that they hope that their child will be killed in jihad so that they can be proud. How selfish. To satisfy their pride.
With every kind of violent topic, we have people here that support that violence. The excuses are pathetic.

Look at members like Muezzin and Woodrow. They don't support violence as an answer for everything. Yet there are members here that claim that not supporting certain violent activity is unislamic.
Members that call imams that denounce violence "not muslims".

I don't know about islam itself. But I do know that there are many muslims that are violent.
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---Many non-Muslims are also violent. What about Hitler ? I never heard/read any such statement that because of Hitler , all Christians are bad , bible should be banned etc. But , media & others criticise Islam because of few/some bad Muslims.


Beslan school tragedy is horrible. During the time of the Last Prophet (p) , Muslim gave good foods to war prisoners , they walked & prisoners rode on camels etc. It was heart breaking to know that those kids were without food , water......no Muslim should support such act. I agree , Muslims are opressed in many countries but kids or innocent civilians must not pay for it.

Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition." (An-Nahl: 90)

"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not do aggression, for Allah loves not the aggressors. Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities.......


If u want , i can post some Fatwa on Jihad .
 
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SilentObserver said:
On this very forum we have people that openly support the terrorizing and killing of the children at Beslan school. People that say that they hope that their child will be killed in jihad so that they can be proud. How selfish. To satisfy their pride.
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And we have members on this forum who insist on twisting the words of others to make what is a wonderful, selfless, motherly gesture filled with wisdom and love for the best for her son, into something that is clearly isn't!

:raging:
 
I dont like the concept of seeing humanity as believers and non believers. seeing people as inferior as they do not agree with what you say. i think truth is in the person that sees all as equal, and the positives in each and every person:

First, Allah created the Light; then, by His Creative Power, He made all mortal beings.
From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad?
O people, O Siblings of Destiny, do not wander deluded by doubt
The Creation is in the Creator, and the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places.
The clay is the same, but the Fashioner has fashioned it in various ways.
There is nothing wrong with the pot of clay - there is nothing wrong with the Potter. ||2||
The One True Lord abides in all; by His making, everything is made.
Whoever realizes the will of His Command, knows the One Lord. He alone is said to be the Lord's slave. ||3||
 
^Why does calling a person a non-believe make them seem inferior? It is just a title that comes around as a consequence of the need to refer to people who are not Muslim collectively. It's just a word.
 
Tayyaba said:
^^Also, its not just Muslims who say non believers. Unfortunately we're just popular right now.
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I don't think its the meaning "non believer". I don't thin its the word itself. I think its the way the word is used by some muslims, who use it in the context implying inferiority or less importance.
 
Muslim Woman said:
---Many non-Muslims are also violent. What about Hitler ? I never heard/read any such statement that because of Hitler , all Christians are bad , bible should be banned etc.
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What does this part of your post mean? What do violent non-muslims, hitler and christians have to do with what I said?
 
Malaikah said:
And we have members on this forum who insist on twisting the words of others to make what is a wonderful, selfless, motherly gesture filled with wisdom and love for the best for her son, into something that is clearly isn't!

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Who would do such a thing? How terrible.

(I know what is best for you son. Go get shot in the head by an assault rifle. I will be happy and proud of you.)
 
Grow up. No one is talking about putting little kids on the battle field.
 
SilentObserver said:
Who would do such a thing? How terrible.

(I know what is best for you son. Go get shot in the head by an assault rifle. I will be happy and proud of you.)
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plus.. no muslim ever said that. :offended:

so stop purposefully distroting things and making naive statements like that.
 
^ lil boy is still a son. not? and its not wild to assume that if you're able to even make wilder distorted claims..
 
SilentObserver said:
I never said that. Did you?
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Then stop implying that we said that! If he wants to go and fight when he is mature enough, to establish justice, then what is your problem? No one is forcing any one to do anything!

You think that the mother will be HAPPY to see her son die?! She is going to hate it, the worst thing for a mother is to see her children suffer and die, it will tear her heart in to. And you REALLY think she selfishly wants to see her son die for her own pride? Or is it for the well being of her son?
 
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