Independent Kurdistan...

Independent Kurdistan

  • Total voters
    0
well where ever we leave even in between kafirs we should live with our principles as muslim.
 
Grace Seeker said:
They call themselves Kurdish freedom fighters.


Not a street with a Muslim majority? I haven't actually done a religious census of Austin. Have you? Hint: if want to save some time, just start in the 9200 and 9300 blocks of North Lamar.
Click to expand...

i support a free kurdistan.. but of course i don't support the terrorist actions that some use to acheive that!

and if there was a kurdistan, there would be no need for "freedom fighters!!!"

and i don't know how to do a religious census. but austin is pretty much like this....

30% atheist
34% catholic
30% protestant
4% jewish
2% other (mainly hindu, muslim, and baha'i)
atheist and catholic are growing the fastest, while protestant is growing slowest. but due to immigration, we are having a HUGE surge in those who profess to the church that jesus made!!!!! :)(aka catholic church)
 
i dnt even want to imagine an independent kudistan...

they have killed too many of not only their own people but turks also...its hard to accept it.all they want is the turkish soil...without earnig it. i dnt want to imagine a indep. kurdistan where honour killings are as free as playing chess,where silly rituals overtake fundamentals....where hating turks is instilled into the children,....

its not jst freedom fighters...they kill their own people for screwed up reasons.

its disgusting.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
i support a free kurdistan.. but of course i don't support the terrorist actions that some use to acheive that!

and if there was a kurdistan, there would be no need for "freedom fighters!!!"

and i don't know how to do a religious census. but austin is pretty much like this....

30% atheist
34% catholic
30% protestant
4% jewish
2% other (mainly hindu, muslim, and baha'i)
atheist and catholic are growing the fastest, while protestant is growing slowest. but due to immigration, we are having a HUGE surge in those who profess to the church that jesus made!!!!! :)(aka catholic church)
Click to expand...


OK. Fine. I accept those numbers. But, my point still is that there are small, albiet very small, locales within the city where two or three Muslims live next door to each other. And you argument is that if a subsection of a given identified region (for you it is eastern Turkey and northern Iraq, for me it is North Lamar Street in Austin) has an ethnic majority that wishes to be independent, then let it be. I'm just applying your principle across the board, that's all.
 
sumeyye said:
i dnt even want to imagine an independent kudistan...

they have killed too many of not only their own people but turks also...its hard to accept it.all they want is the turkish soil...without earnig it. i dnt want to imagine a indep. kurdistan where honour killings are as free as playing chess,where silly rituals overtake fundamentals....where hating turks is instilled into the children,....

its not jst freedom fighters...they kill their own people for screwed up reasons.

its disgusting.
Click to expand...


And yet, to be fair, this is not the majority of Kurds. But it does seem to fairly describe those who want an independent Kurdistan.

Thirdwatch, don't you realize, that even among the Kurds (at least Turkish Kurds) the majority DO NOT want an independent Kurdistan. So, creating one would be the equivalent of forcing south Florida to become part of Cuba, which you said you are against because south Florida doesn't want to be Cuba. Well, most Turkish Kurds don't want an independent Kurdistan either. I would think those facts would change your position on this subject.
 
like you said grace seeker - the majority of TRUSKISH kurds. so if they don't want to become a nation, don't me them. but the iraqi kurds do, so let them.

and might i ask.. do you live in austin?

and when i talk about a majority, i'm not talking about a small area of two or three.. i'm talking about an area with thousands upon millions.
 
Grace Seeker said:
They call themselves Kurdish freedom fighters.


Not a street with a Muslim majority? I haven't actually done a religious census of Austin. Have you? Hint: if want to save some time, just start in the 9200 and 9300 blocks of North Lamar.
Click to expand...


I usually attend the Masjid on North Lamar, It is true there are many Mid-Eastern and Eastern Businesses there. But, they are far from all being Muslim. There is a Buddhist Temple less then 2 blocks from the Masjid and there are a large number of Hindus living in that area. But the majority is not muslim. You will only see a large Muslim Presence there on Fridays when we go for our Friday prayers.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
like you said grace seeker - the majority of TRUSKISH kurds. so if they don't want to become a nation, don't me them. but the iraqi kurds do, so let them.

and might i ask.. do you live in austin?

and when i talk about a majority, i'm not talking about a small area of two or three.. i'm talking about an area with thousands upon millions.
Click to expand...
I know. But the difference between 2 or 3 individuals and 2 or 3 millions is just one of degree, not principle. And I happen to think it's a bad principle for reasons I've gone into more than once in this thread.

No, I don't live in Austin. Not even Texas. Woodrow is a much better person to ask than me about Muslims in Austin.


Woodrow, for the point of my argument, is there anywhere in the entire city of Austin a block on which 2 or 3 Muslims live next to each other?
 
Last edited:
oh ok. just wondering lol.

and in my opinion there is a huge difference between 2 or three million people.. it might be just one difference, but it's a huge one lol.
 
Grace Seeker said:
I know. But the difference between 2 or 3 individuals and 2 or 3 millions is just one of degree, not principle. And I happen to think it's a bad principle for reasons I've gone into more than once in this thread.

No, I don't live in Austin. Not even Texas. Woodrow is a much better person to ask than me about Muslims in Austin.


Woodrow, for the point of my argument, is there anywhere in the entire city of Austin a block on which 2 or 3 Muslims live next to each other?
Click to expand...

Yes there are. However most of the Muslims are living in the Gated communiities. I live at the Marquis at Iron Rock. There are 4 Muslim families here.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
oh ok. just wondering lol.

and in my opinion there is a huge difference between 2 or three million people.. it might be just one difference, but it's a huge one lol.
Click to expand...

I would agree if we were simply talking about numbers. But we are talking about the "rightness" of an idea. And for that it matters not whether we are talking about what is right for a single individual or an entire planet.

In my understanding of "rightness", there is not an inherent or inate "right" to each ethnic group having their own country.

Now, in truth, I don't really care if Iraqi Kurds do form their own country, if the rest of Iraq doesn't mind either. But what the PKK is doing in Turkey to try to force the forming of an independent Kurdistan made up of eastern Turkey and northern Iraq is a criminal act given the way they are going about it. And no amount of posturing, or desire by Iraqi Kurds to influence either Turkish or international politics changes that from being so.
 
Woodrow said:
Yes there are. However most of the Muslims are living in the Gated communiities. I live at the Marquis at Iron Rock. There are 4 Muslim families here.
Click to expand...
Is that enough to make you a Muslim majority at Iron Rock?
 
Grace Seeker said:
Is that enough to make you a Muslim majority at Iron Rock?
Click to expand...

Since there are over 300 families living in the complex, I think that puts us in a minority LOL.

I actualy do not know of any Austin Area in which there is a Muslim majority. We seem to be very interspersed through out the city. If there are any dominate Muslim sections they will most likely be near UT
 
OOOOOOH can we have it pleeeeeeeease??? We'll name it KHALISTAN HOMELAND OF THE SIKHS!! WE need it!!:'( :cry:
 
Woodrow said:
Since there are over 300 families living in the complex, I think that puts us in a minority LOL.

I actualy do not know of any Austin Area in which there is a Muslim majority. We seem to be very interspersed through out the city. If there are any dominate Muslim sections they will most likely be near UT
Click to expand...

i've never seen a muslim in downtown.. never. lol. although i have seen a few muslims at highland mall. lakeline has none, and barton creek especially has none lol. round rock outlet mall seems to have a few muslims here and there, so i'm assuming that there might be a few muslims in round rock. but all in all, i don't think austin or the metro has a lot of muslims. but the muslims that do live here in austin prolly live a happier life and are tolerated a lot more then muslims anywhere else.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
i've never seen a muslim in downtown.. never. lol. although i have seen a few muslims at highland mall. lakeline has none, and barton creek especially has none lol. round rock outlet mall seems to have a few muslims here and there, so i'm assuming that there might be a few muslims in round rock. but all in all, i don't think austin or the metro has a lot of muslims. but the muslims that do live here in austin prolly live a happier life and are tolerated a lot more then muslims anywhere else.
Click to expand...

There actually are quite a few of us. However, we are very dispersed and not congregated in any specific area. Based just on the number of Mosques (6 that I know of) there are at least 6000 people that attend Mosque on a regular basis. I would say there are at least 12 to 20 thousand of us. The 6 Mosques are not large enough to handle the entire Muslim population. It is hard to get good figure on how many there are of us. Very few Muslims ever register with a Mosque. They is a large Population in Round Rock as you said, but they are barely noticible. About the only time you will see us in large groups is during Friday prayers if you travel down Lamar at about 12:30 Friday afternoon you would feel like we had invaded the city LOL


Wrong about none of us at Barton Creek, I know of 2 families there.
 
Woodrow said:
There actually are quite a few of us. However, we are very dispersed and not congregated in any specific area. Based just on the number of Mosques (6 that I know of) there are at least 6000 people that attend Mosque on a regular basis. I would say there are at least 12 to 20 thousand of us. The 6 Mosques are not large enough to handle the entire Muslim population. It is hard to get good figure on how many there are of us. Very few Muslims ever register with a Mosque. They is a large Population in Round Rock as you said, but they are barely noticible. About the only time you will see us in large groups is during Friday prayers if you travel down Lamar at about 12:30 Friday afternoon you would feel like we had invaded the city LOL


Wrong about none of us at Barton Creek, I know of 2 families there.
Click to expand...


wow, i didn't know there were 6 mosuqes. hah about as many mosques as synagogues.

i know a lot of muslims who work at convenience stores.. which is pretty crazy, as they sell alcohol and lottery. they might be hindu though lol.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
wow, i didn't know there were 6 mosuqes. hah about as many mosques as synagogues.

i know a lot of muslims who work at convenience stores.. which is pretty crazy, as they sell alcohol and lottery. they might be hindu though lol.
Click to expand...

Sadly, there are some Muslims working at convenience stores and selling not only alcohol and lottery tickets, but also chiccarones etc.
They do know they are doing wrong. How, they justify it I do not know.

In Austin the majority of the Muslims are employed in the various professions. There are more than a few Muslim professors at UT and a fairly large number of Doctors and Nurses. Some school teachers, some Day care owners, a few engineers and lawyers. More than a couple work at AMC. Then you have the Mid-eastern restaurants that are mostly Muslim here and the Halal grocery stores. Off hand I would say the largest employers of Muslms are the City of Austin, the Hospitals and UT.
 
Woodrow said:
Since there are over 300 families living in the complex, I think that puts us in a minority LOL.

I actualy do not know of any Austin Area in which there is a Muslim majority. We seem to be very interspersed through out the city. If there are any dominate Muslim sections they will most likely be near UT
Click to expand...

That's too bad. If you would all move so as to live more closely together, enough to form a majority in the neighborhood, perhaps Thirdwatch will help you write a petition for an independent Muslim state so that you can have sharia law.
 

Similar Threads

Back
Top