Keltoi
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You've made that point abundantly clear. Not sure what you're doing on a Muslim forum or why, seeing as you don't care about these people, you'd even care if they had a civil war, but I'm sure you have your reasons.
But you do have your surreal moments:
Keltoi Quote: One thing you do not want to see first thing in the morning before coffee is an Apache gunship with bad intentions.
It was amusing at the time only because I happened to be wearing a T-shirt that read: Just give me my coffee... and no one gets hurt. But if the people (yourself included) vye for one side or the other, the format is presented much like a football game. The fact that you're so satisfied about your "side" is disturbing, but I've grown accustomed to this from the Americans. I haven't had to deal with much of it from the various parties who are involved in the war. For the most part, the Sunnis in Iraq have asked questions like: What do you expect us to do? or What do you think we should do? or the infamous argument-ender: What would you do? And I have to admit, all three of these questions have me stumped.
They have produced, what I consider to be, justification for their various responses, but they have made it abundantly clear that they're open to advice. For this, they certainly have one up on President Bush, who has done nothing but refuse advice when it interferes with his agenda, regardless of who it comes from. They also have one up on the side-liners who seem to feel they're enjoying themselves.
And when I say I've grown accustomed to the Americans, I mean the civilians and the talking heads on TV. You don't get much of this from the soldiers themselves. In fact, some very substantial testimony has been published, that casts the U.S. involvement in Iraq in a very nasty light. But, much like President Bush, you're perfectly willing to ignore the bulk of it to protect his agenda.
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As for the discussion on the Apache attack helicopter, I wasn't celebrating anyone's death. I didn't see any of it as a "victory", which is what was being put forward here. I used humor in a discussion about how frightening it would be to wake up to a helicopter attack at dawn. I have never celebrated anyone's death, nor do I consider each death a "little victory", as a certain poster stated. It has nothing to do with being "satisfied" with my side. I'm completely unsatisfied with the civilian leadership's decisions and goals.
As for "protecting" President Bush's agenda, I'm not sure what your point is or how you came to that rather dubious conclusion. The fact that I don't support an immediate pullout has nothing to do with Bush, but about keeping our promises to the Iraqis who have placed their trust in the U.S. presence, at least those that have done so, and to uphold our responsibilities in stabilizing an unstable situation.