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Only in Canada...=D
Thank you to everyone who posted, especially Talha and Muhammad. =D
Only in Canada...=D
Thank you to everyone who posted, especially Talha and Muhammad. =D
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Greetings,
Thank you for your questions
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Greetings,
No - as far as I understand it - it is not allowed for them to correspond unnecessarily whether that is in private or public. A couple of the quotes in another post of that thread say:
And Allaah the Most High knows best.
Thank you for your questions
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Thank you for your answers. You've been a big help. =D
Thank you for your questions
Thank you for your answers.
You've been a big help. =DPygoscelis
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I have dozens of close friends of the opposite sex that I feel no attraction whatsoever for. In fact, sex with these people would be disturbing. It would be like having sex with a sibling.
Its unfortunate that you'd lock out half the human race for potetial friendships / hanging out just due to a sexual fear / taboo.
I have dozens of close friends of the opposite sex that I feel no attraction whatsoever for. In fact, sex with these people would be disturbing. It would be like having sex with a sibling.
Its unfortunate that you'd lock out half the human race for potetial friendships / hanging out just due to a sexual fear / taboo.
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And I know of heaps of guys who also have dozens of female friends and tend to be extremely flirtatious with most of them... it is obvious they want to more than friends with some of them.
No one is suggesting that every person must be attracted to every person of the opposite gender they see.
And I know of heaps of guys who also have dozens of female friends and tend to be extremely flirtatious with most of them... it is obvious they want to more than friends with some of them.
No one is suggesting that every person must be attracted to every person of the opposite gender they see.
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Better safe than sorry. On one side, someone wont be flirtatious or what not, but on the other side there will be. Its a prevention from it even starting.
Better safe than sorry. On one side, someone wont be flirtatious or what not, but on the other side there will be. Its a prevention from it even starting.
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In all honesty, I'd say my friends are about even in terms of how many males and how many females there are.
And if I ever was to revert, I don't think I would be able to leave my female friends behind. I think I'd have to try and maintain the current relationship I have with each of them for as long as possible.
Would this be sinful?
In all honesty, I'd say my friends are about even in terms of how many males and how many females there are.
And if I ever was to revert, I don't think I would be able to leave my female friends behind. I think I'd have to try and maintain the current relationship I have with each of them for as long as possible.
Would this be sinful?
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Well That's Your Situation And I Respect That.
But As A Muslim, I Think It's Better To Be Extremely Precautious And On The Safe Side Of Things.
So No, Muslims Are Not Unfortunate And Did Not "Lock" Out Half The Human Race...This Rule Of Gender Segregation Was Placed For A Perfectly Good Reason...And Muslims Do Acknowledge It.
Well That's Your Situation And I Respect That.
But As A Muslim, I Think It's Better To Be Extremely Precautious And On The Safe Side Of Things.
So No, Muslims Are Not Unfortunate And Did Not "Lock" Out Half The Human Race...This Rule Of Gender Segregation Was Placed For A Perfectly Good Reason...And Muslims Do Acknowledge It.
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I guess its just had for me to relate since I don't share the same level of taboo/aversion regarding physical attraction. Dissacociating with half the human race is a pretty drastic measurem, so this taboo/aversion/commandment must be a very strongly held one.
I guess its just had for me to relate since I don't share the same level of taboo/aversion regarding physical attraction. Dissacociating with half the human race is a pretty drastic measurem, so this taboo/aversion/commandment must be a very strongly held one.
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Dont forget that not everyone is like you. Rules apply to everyone cuz there will be such a person in the population. Its a precaution.
Dont forget that not everyone is like you. Rules apply to everyone cuz there will be such a person in the population. Its a precaution.
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My 2 cents worth...........I can see both sides. As a teenager I hung out with boys all the time. My parents were so involved in their own drama they had no idea what I was doing. Lets just say.........what I was doing was not what a 14 year old should be doing. Back then I thought nothing of it. But now I see how different my life would have been if those things hadn't been around me. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't take any of it back because it has made me the person I am today. But I want better for my son. So will I allow him to hang out with girls??? Ummmm that would be a big fat NO!!!!!
My 2 cents worth...........I can see both sides. As a teenager I hung out with boys all the time. My parents were so involved in their own drama they had no idea what I was doing. Lets just say.........what I was doing was not what a 14 year old should be doing. Back then I thought nothing of it. But now I see how different my life would have been if those things hadn't been around me. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't take any of it back because it has made me the person I am today. But I want better for my son. So will I allow him to hang out with girls??? Ummmm that would be a big fat NO!!!!!
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Same here. But a good point was made about Catholicism...Many of its followers are Catholic only because they call themselves that. Christianity in general is not a well-structured religion, and part of that lies in the mixing of genders. A rather large church in my county had a faction of members split off from it because of things going on there that shouldn't have been going on. I won't go into specifics, but there was a lot of corruption in every level of the church, from the people that came every other Sunday to the leadership itself.
I'm not saying that it's not good to be Christian, it's just that so many people call themselves Christian and have Christian beliefs, and yet are bad people. Not all Christians are bad, but many of the "gangstaz" that curse and talk about gangs and stuff say they are Christian. In my own experience, anyway.
Converting to Islam? =P
Same here. But a good point was made about Catholicism...Many of its followers are Catholic only because they call themselves that. Christianity in general is not a well-structured religion, and part of that lies in the mixing of genders. A rather large church in my county had a faction of members split off from it because of things going on there that shouldn't have been going on. I won't go into specifics, but there was a lot of corruption in every level of the church, from the people that came every other Sunday to the leadership itself.
I'm not saying that it's not good to be Christian, it's just that so many people call themselves Christian and have Christian beliefs, and yet are bad people. Not all Christians are bad, but many of the "gangstaz" that curse and talk about gangs and stuff say they are Christian. In my own experience, anyway.
Converting to Islam? =P
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Gender segregation caused these problems? Priests raping young BOYS wouldn't be cured by this. Nor would all the other abuses that exist within church societies.
It is a social dynamic in which problems will and do occur. You've got people looked to as authority figures and followers who are encouraged not to question the religion's teachings, which is usually the preacher's interpretation of it rather than peoples' independent interpretation. On top of that you've got a lot of followers who follow based on emotional needs (you're bound to have some very vulnerable people, who are then taken advanage of). These things will and do occur, but it is not rampant. It isn't the norm. And I don't see what if anythng it has to do with gender mixing.
Take 10 random Christians and you'll get 10 different interpretations of what Christian beliefs are. There is so much variance in the religion that its amazing. Falwell, Fred Phelps, Presbeterians, Southern Baptists, Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses, Chrstian Unitarians..... I don't think they all have any actual belief in common besides that they all label themselves christian.
So its hard to really say what a Christian is, beside somebody who assigns themself that label.
Gender segregation caused these problems? Priests raping young BOYS wouldn't be cured by this. Nor would all the other abuses that exist within church societies.
It is a social dynamic in which problems will and do occur. You've got people looked to as authority figures and followers who are encouraged not to question the religion's teachings, which is usually the preacher's interpretation of it rather than peoples' independent interpretation. On top of that you've got a lot of followers who follow based on emotional needs (you're bound to have some very vulnerable people, who are then taken advanage of). These things will and do occur, but it is not rampant. It isn't the norm. And I don't see what if anythng it has to do with gender mixing.
Take 10 random Christians and you'll get 10 different interpretations of what Christian beliefs are. There is so much variance in the religion that its amazing. Falwell, Fred Phelps, Presbeterians, Southern Baptists, Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses, Chrstian Unitarians..... I don't think they all have any actual belief in common besides that they all label themselves christian.
So its hard to really say what a Christian is, beside somebody who assigns themself that label.
Gender Segregation
Gender segregation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gender segregation is the separation, or segregation, of people according to sex or gender. Public bathrooms, public showers, dormitories, changing rooms, prisons and other areas are often sex segregated. Sometimes there are separate hours or separate facilities in public saunas. Some religious buildings have separate entrances and worship areas for men and women.
Men and women also tend to work in different occupations; for example, more than 90% of nurses in the United States are women. This is referred to as occupational segregation.
The term gender apartheid is a derogatory term applied to segregation of people by gender, implying that it is sexual discrimination. Gender segregation is a controversial policy, with the strongest critics contending that in most or all circumstances it is a violation of human rights, and strong supporters holding that it is necessary to maintain decency, sacredness, modesty, or the family unit.
In Judaism
Traditional Jewish synagogues are sex segregated.
In Islam
Islam discourages social interaction between men and women but not all
interaction between men and women. This is shown in the example of
Hazrat Khadija R.A, who employed Hazrat Muhammad ﷺ and met with him ﷺ to conduct trade
before they were married, and in the example set by the other wives of
Muhammad ﷺ , who taught and counselled the men and women of Medina.
The textual basis for insisting on total segregation of the sexes is the
hadith on zina (fornication and adultery) of the limbs narrated from Ibn
Mas`ud by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad with a strong chain: "The two eyes
commit zina, the two hands commit zina, the two feet commit zina, and
the genitals commit zina." Another wording with a passable chain in the
Musnad includes the tongue and specifies in the end: "Then the genitals
actualize it or belly it.". However, it does not necessarily follow that this
hadith can be used as justification for saying "Therefore, according to
Shari'ah, to look, speak, listen, etc. to any Ghayr Mahram (women you are
not related to or married to) except at the time of extreme necessity is
Haraam and impermissible."
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Gender segregation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gender segregation is the separation, or segregation, of people according to sex or gender. Public bathrooms, public showers, dormitories, changing rooms, prisons and other areas are often sex segregated. Sometimes there are separate hours or separate facilities in public saunas. Some religious buildings have separate entrances and worship areas for men and women.
Men and women also tend to work in different occupations; for example, more than 90% of nurses in the United States are women. This is referred to as occupational segregation.
The term gender apartheid is a derogatory term applied to segregation of people by gender, implying that it is sexual discrimination. Gender segregation is a controversial policy, with the strongest critics contending that in most or all circumstances it is a violation of human rights, and strong supporters holding that it is necessary to maintain decency, sacredness, modesty, or the family unit.
In Judaism
Traditional Jewish synagogues are sex segregated.
In Islam
Islam discourages social interaction between men and women but not all
interaction between men and women. This is shown in the example of
Hazrat Khadija R.A, who employed Hazrat Muhammad ﷺ and met with him ﷺ to conduct trade
before they were married, and in the example set by the other wives of
Muhammad ﷺ , who taught and counselled the men and women of Medina.
The textual basis for insisting on total segregation of the sexes is the
hadith on zina (fornication and adultery) of the limbs narrated from Ibn
Mas`ud by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad with a strong chain: "The two eyes
commit zina, the two hands commit zina, the two feet commit zina, and
the genitals commit zina." Another wording with a passable chain in the
Musnad includes the tongue and specifies in the end: "Then the genitals
actualize it or belly it.". However, it does not necessarily follow that this
hadith can be used as justification for saying "Therefore, according to
Shari'ah, to look, speak, listen, etc. to any Ghayr Mahram (women you are
not related to or married to) except at the time of extreme necessity is
Haraam and impermissible."
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+o( That happened because priests aren't allowed to marry! That wouldn't happen in Islam because it is not allowed for a person not to marry just so they can devote their lives to God. (And i think the wisdom behind that is obvious when you consider what has happened with some priests).
You don't, but I sure do. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Because in my age group there is a lot that can be said about the problems of gender mixing.:rollseyes
Well we ain't exactly Christians were we...
Relax, lol. If you would like better places to get information from, try:
www.islamtoday.com
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng
+o( That happened because priests aren't allowed to marry! That wouldn't happen in Islam because it is not allowed for a person not to marry just so they can devote their lives to God. (And i think the wisdom behind that is obvious when you consider what has happened with some priests).
You don't, but I sure do. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Because in my age group there is a lot that can be said about the problems of gender mixing.:rollseyes
Well we ain't exactly Christians were we...
Relax, lol. If you would like better places to get information from, try:
www.islamtoday.com
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng
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Thank you for the the links sister, I'll look at them, I, however, would like to invite you to check this one http://www.islamalways.com/
The reason I posted that "polite note" is that I have had bad treatment for using wiki in not too distant past.
Thank you for the the links sister, I'll look at them, I, however, would like to invite you to check this one http://www.islamalways.com/
The reason I posted that "polite note" is that I have had bad treatment for using wiki in not too distant past.
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Unless your a Muslim who believes in following man's laws and making our own laws then I don't see how the above can be right. Muslims dont pray because they think that prayer is good, nor do muslims not speak ill of one and other because they think it's bad. I have yet to see one ruling which is based on Muslim's perception.
Unless your a Muslim who believes in following man's laws and making our own laws then I don't see how the above can be right. Muslims dont pray because they think that prayer is good, nor do muslims not speak ill of one and other because they think it's bad. I have yet to see one ruling which is based on Muslim's perception.