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Iran needs nuclear power for peaceful purposes. They dont want a bomb and will only use the technology for peace.

It's sitting on a bathtub of oil.

I dont get it.
 
Crude oil is really quite nasty and useless stuff. It is what can be done with it after it is refined that makes it useful. Most of the oil producing countries have neither the technology nor the equipment to refine the oil into useful products so they depend on selling the oil to provide income that they can use to produce energy.

The world of oil, refineries and sales is very complex and requires a small army of businesses from around the world to make it work.

Although on the surface oil refining appears to be a simple process, a refinery is a pretty large facility and requires a huge amount of steel to build. The oil rich companies have no domestic steel in any quantity.

another problem the portion of the refinery that breaks the oil down into assorted light weight benzene chain molecules (the stuff that makes gasoline) requires a catalytic cracking still. the catalyst used is platinum. One company owns 90% of the worlds mined platinum. that is UOP an international company that designs or has designed nearly all of the worlds refineries. The companies that have built most of the refineries are Bechtel, Kellogg and procon. again multi national companies. Procon is a wholly owned subsidiary of UOP. The majority of the worlds oil is bought by the 7 giant oil companies, again multi-national companies.

So in my round about way of saying things the oil in the ground in Iran is of little value to Iran unless they can find a buyer for it.
 
Meh...Making a Oil refinery is a hell of a lot easier than making a nuclear power plant. If Platinum is hard to get hold of ...try uranium. You need a little bit more steel for a Nuke station than a oil station.

I'm not saying to produce their own refinerys wouldnt be hard...but it's not the same as enriching heavy metals.

Also...why wouldnt they just send the oil off to be refined like anyone else?
Also...If they dont want a bomb...why not just stop at a light water reactor?

When you throw in Mahmudinarjads rantings you can really picture him as a guy whose going to use it all peacefully.
 
Even if Iran wanted Nuclear weapons, what gives the west the right to dictate who develops what?

Its like saying I can have a gun but you cant because you will shoot someone lol
 
akulion said:
Even if Iran wanted Nuclear weapons, what gives the west the right to dictate who develops what?

Its like saying I can have a gun but you cant because you will shoot someone lol
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The danger with any nation developing nuclear weapons is proliferation. Iran hasn't shown itself to be a responsible party when the proliferation of weapons comes up.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
They only want what we have. Simple.
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So it doesn't matter what a nation's history of WMD proliferation is? Everyone should have it regardless of their ability or will to proliferate this technology to other less than stable nations, like North Korea?
 
Keltoi said:
So it doesn't matter what a nation's history of WMD proliferation is? Everyone should have it regardless of their ability or will to proliferate this technology to other less than stable nations, like North Korea?
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Name me the nation who has used it, tell me??
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Name me the nation who has used it, tell me??
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We both know the answer to that question(I think), but that same nation hasn't used them since, not even in Vietnam. The point is proliferation, which is the selling of nuclear weapons and technology to any who pay.
 
Keltoi said:
We both know the answer to that question(I think), but that same nation hasn't used them since, not even in Vietnam. The point is proliferation, which is the selling of nuclear weapons and technology to any who pay.
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It's the right of a sovereign nation. Or let the US/UK give up theirs. (although I don't think they should) but allow other nations the same right. I don't like people who dictate.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
It's the right of a sovereign nation. Or let the US/UK give up theirs. (although I don't think they shoul) but allow other nation the same right. I don't like people who dictate.
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It's the right of a sovereign nation? You seem to forget that Iran signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which agreed to allow inspections to make sure they weren't seeking nuclear weapons technology. They started a secret nuclear weapons program anyway. As a member of the U.N., Iran has certain obligations, especially when it signs a treaty.
 
Keltoi said:
It's the right of a sovereign nation? You seem to forget that Iran signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which agreed to allow inspections to make sure they weren't seeking nuclear weapons technology. They started a secret nuclear weapons program anyway. As a member of the U.N., Iran has certain obligations, especially when it signs a treaty.
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I used to think Iranians are hotheads who can't be trusted with nuclear weapons whereas we, on the contrary, are ''level-headed and responsible'' people. - They'll have them. :D
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
I used to think Iranians are hotheads who can't be trusted with nuclear weapons whereas we, on the contrary, are ''level-headed and responsible'' people. - They'll have them. :D
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I'm having a hard time figuring out why that makes you happy. Iran has sold and bought weapons from North Korea. I'm not talking guns, I'm talking missile technology. Why should the international community expect Iran to be responsible and level-headed when they have nuclear weapons?
 
Keltoi said:
I'm having a hard time figuring out why that makes you happy. Iran has sold and bought weapons from North Korea. I'm not talking guns, I'm talking missile technology. Why should the international community expect Iran to be responsible and level-headed when they have nuclear weapons?
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US/UK fund EVERY conflict going on this planet so spare me the crap please.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
US/UK fund EVERY conflict going on this planet so spare me the crap please.
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Hmmm, they fund every conflict on the planet...I suppose you have proof of this? Oh wait..I forgot, it is up to me to prove that your claim isn't true. :enough!:
 
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