'Abd al-Baari
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Alhamdulillah, we need more people like that who are willing to stop such haram things, especially in a supposedly islamic country
‘Govt engineering Jamia Hafsa crisis’
PESHAWAR: NWFP clerics suspect that the government is “allowing the growing trend of Talibanisation to continue unchecked in Islamabad in a conspiracy to label all madrassas militant training camps”.
The province’s clerics on Saturday refused to support Lal Masjid administrator and Jamia Hafsa principal Maulana Abdul Aziz, and called Lal Masjid’s efforts to “enforce Shariah” an “unwise act that will mar the image of all madrassa students in the country and abroad”. “It may be the government and law-enforcement agencies’ plan to show the world what Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa are training their students to do,” they said, adding that the government earlier bombed a Bajaur madrassa for similar reasons. “I have met Maulana Aziz twice since last week and advised him not to take the law into his hands,” Sheikhul Hadith Maulana Mohammad Hassan Jan, an administrator at Jamia Imdadul Uloom Islamia in Peshawar, told Daily Times.
“A madrassa means a place of Islamic education, and its students should not take up sticks and challenge the government’s writ. Stopping people from unlawful activities is the government’s job,” said Hassan Jan, adding that the Lal Masjid administrator should wage a jihad against un-Islamic activities through Islamic teachings, not through sticks and threats of suicide bombings. “Maulana Abdul Aziz took this step without consulting ulema and he will be responsible if something happens to madrassas and their students,” said Hassan Jan.
He also condemned the government for not implementing recommendations of the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII). “Had the government implemented the CII’s recommendations, the situation would not have been so,” he said.
Mufti Qamar of the Sarhad Darul Uloom said the Jamia Hafsa principal was playing with thousands of madrassa students’ lives. “Maulana Aziz will be responsible if the government takes action against madrassa students who are at the forefront of this situation,” he added.
Madrassa Darul Qura administrator and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUIF) MNA Qari Fayaz criticised the Lal Masjid administrator’s announcement to enforce Shariah, and said this would damage the image of all madrassa students throughout the world.
He also accused the government of “engineering” the Jamia Hafsa crisis to divert public and media attention from the ongoing judicial crisis. “How is it possible for some madrassa students to take the law into their hands and why has the government been silent so far? The government has certain motives,” said Qari Fayaz.
Maulana Fazlullah of madrassa Hanifia Sunnia in Katlang, Mardan, said ulema should stop people from un-Islamic activities through Islamic teachings. He said the way the Lal Masjid administrator was trying to implement Shariah was against the principles of Islam and the law of the land. Maulana Fazal Manan, the administrator at Madrassa Jamia Qadria in Mardan and provincial president of Tanzimul Madaris, also slammed the formation of a Shariat court at Lal Masjid. “Through this act, all of the country’s madrassas will be accused of training militants,” he said. The clerics said the Lal Masjid administrator should withdraw his demands.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\04\08\story_8-4-2007_pg7_14
City of Islam, when did Islamabad get that title and who named it that?
just a bunch of extremists who are there to take the focus off from the ongoing problem with the president that he had the supreme justice arrested.
This is just a diversion tactic to take focus of the public eye off the REAL PROBLEM which was causing huge problems for the existing govt.
As for these 'noble students' they are just a bunch of looney toons who think everyone should do as they say or else die.
Assalaamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
After madrassah students of Jamia Hafsa took the law into their own hands and closed down a brothel in Islamabad (imagine open prostitution in the "City of Islam"), there has been ongoing controversy between the government and the administration of Lal Masjid. General Musharraf, the dictator of Pakistan, went on record saying, “These people should shun narrow-mindedness and should open their minds for new ideas.” This is funny because Musharraf is the most narrow minded person on the planet. Pakistan claims to be an "Islamic Republic", yet the capital city, Islamabad ("City of Islam") is like Las Vegas, brothels and immoral corruption abound like any European city. Now these noble students want to restore the dignity of Pakistan by forcing people to stop sinning and the hypocritical government and media are in an uproar!
I have had a few chance meetings with so called students of madrasahs. You could never hope to meet a more ignorant person than a talib.unable to read and write, (being able to recognise and repeat words of Quraan without knowing the meaning does not make one an expert in Arabic language). just a brainwashed parrot.
and they are being used by power hungry evil people as cannon fodder. most of them are from destitute familes or are orphans and had nowhere else to go and ended up in hands of these monsters who use them for their own purposes. Lack of social security, social sevices, lack of real schools are the real problem.
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That is also a trait of the reactionary Taliban/Talibaat, Never allow an opinion contrary to your moolah's, but attack, discredit the "opponent" If that fails kidnapping and murder are resorted to.I find what you said to be completely Ignorant.
I hope Musharaf and ISI take their kidgloves off and deal with this mennace sooner rather than laterYes the only education the talibs know is Madrassah, But i do not see them being used by power hungry people. I see them together to establish a deen on a watan based on Sharia.
Ignorant? Then you have never met a real talib, they are very humble people who have strong generosity values. I was raised in a Madrassah when i was young, so i know what it is to expect in a Madrassah.
mahdisoldier,
what noname 55 wrote, confirms what i have read and learned from pashtuns.
would you disagree then, that pashtuns have been used as cannon fodder by the ISI?
I know those Pashtuns, those are the conspiracies that run against the Taliban. I ask those who say they were funded by the ISI, why when the Talibs asked the same ISI for money for educational systems, the ISI said no. What funding? Do you think the Taliban would help a secular goverment against themselves? After all they are RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS.
i think a lot of people knew that this was an absurd allegation - just another one of bush's pretenses leading up to the invasion of iraq: one week it was WMD's, next week it was 9/11 and the next week it was "freedom and democracy" - it was really pretty transparent.Like the accusation that Saddam and Bin Laden are co-mates
i think a lot of people knew that this was an absurd allegation - just another one of bush's pretenses leading up to the invasion of iraq: one week it was WMD's, next week it was 9/11 and the next week it was "freedom and democracy" - it was really pretty transparent.
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