"Kill 1 million Arabs", says former Chief Jewish Rabbi

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Hey .. how tell these LIE?

the western media? If you want really to know the truth .. check out the authentic provenance.

Preparations for Israel's war in Lebanon last summer were drawn up at least four months before two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Hizbullah in July, Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, has admitted.

how start first shoulder the responsibility of All these WAR .. the logic said that.

And who told you that those are LIES? Your so reliable arabic, jew- hating media?
Hizbullah didnt care about Lebanon civilians, they just wanted the whole world to see Israel as attacking civilians. Thats why they deliberately placed rockets launchers on civilians houses. You dont have to believe this, i know that you see what you want to see.
 
If Jews felt this way about non-jews then I would be anti-Jew but I know that the Jewish people are quite respectful. I remember going to a synagogue on a school trip and we met some Jews. They told us their story during the war and they thanked us for having them in our country. Bare in mind that we were only children, they told us that we should be proud of our country and they are very grateful that we had given them a better life in Britain. Now for those words alone, it's a pleasure to have them. The Jews respect other religions, our way of life, our culture and the country that they live in.
 
And who told you that those are LIES? Your so reliable arabic, jew- hating media?
Hizbullah didnt care about Lebanon civilians, they just wanted the whole world to see Israel as attacking civilians. Thats why they deliberately placed rockets launchers on civilians houses. You dont have to believe this, i know that you see what you want to see.

Hizbullah didnt care about Lebanon civilians !!!

he care about what then,when the Israel's war in Lebanon start burnning?

In the fighting 1,200 Lebanese and 158 Israelis were killed. Of the dead almost 1,000 Lebanese and 41 Israelis were civilians.

Not because they deliberately placed rockets launchers on civilians houses.

but because Israel has the right to kill us .. with out any condemn.

Other thing ....

And who told you that those are LIES? Your so reliable arabic,Israel- hating media?

you have to be careful when you accuse some One.

peace
 
Thats why they deliberately placed rockets launchers on civilians houses.
they also blew up a place which turned out to be a tissue paper factory not a hideout of Hizbullah arms.You are right ,but Israel unnecessarily killed a lot of civilians.Heck it still didn't manage to bring the back the captured Israeli soldiers ,did it?
I do recall a Israeli Airstrike that was about 20 seconds away from launching and they called it off because swarms of civilians stood on the terrorists roof.
exceptions.rare ones.
There is bad blood in both sides.The root reason why all this happened this way is the method used to establish the Jewish state(no I am not against one).
Let me ask you, if Israel left right now, do you understand the anarchy that would take place in the West Bank? yes you would be free of occupation, but basic things that the Palestinians do not have the experts to run would be abandoned.
why don't you start a slow transition?training them ,handing them responsibilities one by one instead of increasing settlements.
I don't think such statements(like the Rabbi's or Ahmadinejad's) are to be bothered about.
 
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And who told you that those are LIES? Your so reliable arabic, jew- hating media?

The "reliable arabic, jew-hating media is disliked, because they tell the truth.

They got it right before our own media, did..

What about our own media. Have they not lied, many times over? Can't our media also be accused of being biased and taking every opportunity to show its hatred towards Arabs?

It's a 2-way stree, man...

Hizbullah didnt care about Lebanon civilians, they just wanted the whole world to see Israel as attacking civilians. Thats why they deliberately placed rockets launchers on civilians houses. You dont have to believe this, i know that you see what you want to see.

Hizbullah fighters never fired rockets from when civilians were around. Did you forget that long convoys of 800,000 civilians fleeing Southern Lebanon and the shia suburbs of Western Beirut?

Did you forget that there were no Hizbullah fighters in the Shia suburbs of Beirut, nor in some Christian neighborhoods of Eastern Beirut, yet, israel attacked those civilian areas. Where is your condomnation of that, sir?

Nor had they set up rockets inside homes. That has already been proven. After the war, Israel finally discovered that Hizbullah fired their rockets from underground bunkers. That's why during the 34-day Israeli aggression, they were utterly unsuccessful in neutralizing Hizbulla's rocket arsenal.

The black-and-white Israeli Air Force infrared photo's of Hizbullah rockets being fired from Qana, were fakes.

The IDF had to admit that the footage was 3 days old, and from another area. Therefore, Israel deliberately targeted the civilians of Qana for execution.

Here's one example of Israeli lies.

No Hezbollah Activists In Qana

Courtesy of: Focus News Agency
30 July 2006

Qana/Sofia--"There are no Hezbollah activists in the village of Qana, Israel is bombarding civilian buildings and vehicles," Spanish Journalist Monica Leiva, who is in the southern Lebanese village at the moment, told Focus News Agency.

"I am at the site of the bombardment at the moment. Here the people are still trying to pull the bodies out from under the ruins. At the moment they are trying to free the bodies of the children killed in the Israeli air raid.

The bombarding continues.

What more can I say? Israel is firing at everything--Buildings, roads, vehicles.

It is particularly impossible for the locals to leave the area, as there are no guarantee that they will not be fired at while trying to escape the war zone.

The people are very scared.

The air raids started during the night and continue.

There are no Hezbullah activists in Qana. There are only civilians here," the Spanish Journalist said.

Source:
http://focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=138&ch=0&newsid=93149
Try anothe story, dude.

Let's face it, Israel lost the fight in the trenches, and they also lost the media war. All their lies have been exposed and debunked...
 
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Israel's Human Shield Assertion Falls Apart

As we are constantly reminded by the disinformation media and Israel's hasbara (propaganda) machine, that the reason there are so many civilian deaths in the current war waged by Israel against the defenseless civilian population of Lebanon, is that Hizbullah fighters constantly hide behind helpless civilians and uses them as "human shields," in order to prevent the Israel Death Forces from attacking them.

Therefore, Israel has no other option than to fire at Hizbullah and their civilian "hostages," in order to protect Israeli citizens from incoming rockets.

The following is a quote that I took from Israel's daily newspaper, Haaretz:

"As the Israel Air Force continues to investigate the air strike, questions have been raised over military accounts of the incident.

It now appears that the military had no information on rockets launced from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah men at the time.

The Israel Defense Forces had said after the deadly air-strike that many rockets had been launched from Qana. However, it changed its version on Monday.

The site was included in an IAF plan to strike at several buildings in PROXIMITY to a previous launching site. Similar strikes were carried out in the past.

However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on the day of the strike."

Source:
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745185.html
 
Let's face it, Israel lost the fight in the trenches, and they also lost the media war. All their lies have been exposed and debunked..
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Hip Hip Hooray !!So you must be so proud of your heroes from Hizbullah. Maybe next time you , Arabs, will have more luck and you will finally kill al the Jews in Israel. You cant wait for that probably.
 
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Hip Hip Hooray !!So you must be so proud of your heroes from Hizbullah. Maybe next time you , Arabs, will have more luck and you will finally kill al the Jews in Israel. You cant wait for that probably.

Go blame Olmert for getting his "jews" killed.

He initiated the war.

He couldn't get at Hizbullah, so, he targets Lebanese civilians instead, and by doing so, Hizbullah retaliated by firing rockets at Israel.

But of course, you guys have a way with spinning events, so you can stomach the mess you got yourselves into, and avoid reality, altogether...
 
zman, I'm not sure I agree with all of your assertions:

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Photos that **** Hezbollah

THIS is the picture that ****s Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia.

The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon.

The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.

They emerged as:

US President George Bush called for an international force to be sent to Lebanon.

ISRAEL called up another 30,000 reserve troops.

THE UN's humanitarian chief Jan Egeland called for a three-day truce to evacuate civilians and transport food and water into cut-off areas.

US SECRETARY of State Condoleezza Rice returned to the Middle East to push a UN resolution aimed at ending the 18-day war, and:

A PALESTINIAN militant group said it had kidnapped, killed and burned an Israeli settler in the West Bank.

The images include one of a group of men and youths preparing to fire an anti-aircraft gun metres from an apartment block with sheets hanging out on a balcony to dry.

Others show a militant with AK47 rifle guarding no-go zones after Israeli blitzes.

Another depicts the remnants of a Hezbollah Katyusha rocket in the middle of a residential block blown up in an Israeli air attack.

The Melbourne man who smuggled the shots out of Beirut and did not wish to be named said he was less than 400m from the block when it was obliterated.

"Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets," he said.

"Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated.

"It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more."

The release of the images comes as Hezbollah faces criticism for allegedly using innocent civilians as "human shields".

Mr Egeland blasted Hezbollah as "cowards" for operating among civilians.

"When I was in Lebanon, in the Hezbollah heartland, I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children," he said.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html

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Israeli Soldiers may have used human shields, and they should be punished for those isolated instances, but to deny Hezbollah and Hamas from commiting such crimes reduces your own credibility. I would suggest zman, that you open your eyes and view the world from a much more unbiased lens.
 
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zman, I'm not sure I agree with all of your assertions:

http://clarityandresolve.com/palHumanShields2.jpg

http://noisyroom.net/blog/l5.jpg

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Israeli Soldiers may have used human shields, and they should be punished for those isolated instances, but to deny Hezbollah and Hamas from commiting such crimes reduces your own credibility. I would suggest zman, that you open your eyes and view the world from a much more unbiased lens.

Peace rav,

1. The original article doesn't contain the photo's of Hizbullah in a Christian neighborhood. Where did you get them from?

2. The "unidentified" man who "Smuggled" those phots out. Why is he "unidentified" and why did he "smuggle" the photos out.

These photo's aren't considered national security, or won't endanger the collection methods of an intelligence service.

The press service on numerous occasions have taken similar photo's and they haven't smuggled them out of the country. The Lebanese government didn't have a ban on taken such photos out of the country.

3. Regarding the rest of the photos, I don't see any evidence of human shields.

a) gain, why aren't they dated, placed, identified and briefly commented on properly (what towns where they taken in? And what year? What war? The identity of the gunemen?, etc).

b)There are fighters present, but the crowd clearly shows that they voluntarily gathered around those fighters, in order to observe the battle from "ringside seats."

It's totally different from having IDF troops tie a kid to their Jeep, or have a kid march before them, so he can take the 1st bullet if fired upon.

c) Also, these are large crowds. If they were truly human shields, they could have overwhelmed a couple of fighters, who were clearly focussed on the battle, and not on securing their alleged "hostages."

Thank you, but my credibility is in tact. I wouldn't say so for yours, after viewing your photos...
 
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Peace rav,
2. The "unidentified" man who "Smuggled" those phots out. Why is he "unidentified" and why did he "smuggle" the photos out.

These photo's aren't considered national security, or won't endanger the collection methods of an intelligence service.

The press service on numerous occasions have taken similar photo's and they haven't smuggled them out of the country. The Lebanese government didn't have a ban on taken such photos out of the country.


Shalom zman, (Quick question, what does "zman" mean?)

The man felt a threat on his life for revealing them. It may seem odd to you, but if he wishes not to reveal himself who are we to tell him otherwise? Were you in Lebanon actually viewing anything first hand? The camerman was.


3. Regarding the rest of the photos, I don't see any evidence of human shields.

"Human shield" is a military and political term describing the presence of civilians in or around combat targets to deter an enemy from attacking those targets. Where did you not see Hamas and Hezbollah not defending positions and firing on Israeli's in densly populated areas?

a) gain, why aren't they dated, placed, identified and briefly commented on properly (what towns where they taken in? And what year? What war? The identity of the gunemen?, etc).

b)There are fighters present, but the crowd clearly shows that they voluntarily gathered around those fighters, in order to observe the battle from "ringside seats."

I response to (a) They are a variety of shots in Lebanona nd the Gaza strip.

In response to (b) if they want "ringside" seats, than why complain if they are killed? It is irrelevant what the intention of the people are. Hezbollah uses "human shields" by setting up rockets and making bases in highly populated areas.

It's totally different from having IDF troops tie a kid to their Jeep, or have a kid march before them, so he can take the 1st bullet if fired upon.

No it is not. It is the same in the definition sense of the word. I have already condemned that action by IDF soldiers by the way. The topic is your denial of Hezbollah using human shields.

c) Also, these are large crowds. If they were truly human shields, they could have overwhelmed a couple of fighters, who were clearly focussed on the battle, and not on securing their alleged "hostages."

Please re-read the actual definition of a human shield tha I posted above. I think your mistaken on the actual meaning of the word in a military sense.

Thank you, but my credibility is in tact. I wouldn't say so for yours, after viewing your photos...

Okay, whatever you say zman. I was merely suggesting you remove yourself from the blinders that have been placed on you. When you look from both sides and are not so biased on every issue, than maybe we can have a reasonable conversation.

As for my photos, I wish you would judge yours with the same credibility as mine. You accept your stories and witness testimony as complete truth yet reject other opinions that do not suit your own.

Israeli Air Force warned Mohammed Weil Baroud, a Palestinian leader said to be responsible for firing Qassam rockets at Israel, to evacuate his home in Beit Lahia in the Gaza Strip in advance of an airstrike. Instead, hundreds of Palestinians, including many women and children, gathered outside Baroud's house. Israel suspended the airstrike out of fear that the human shields would be killed or injured." Palestinians now describe it as military policy to do such things. So if this is a "war" what should Israel do? Play "fair" which in Hamas's mind is to lay down and allow them to execute Jews?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1162378435257&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

IDF soldiers may have done terrible things without permission from generals, but at the same time, to deny Hamas and Hezbollah do such a thing as well is in my mind very naive.
 
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The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

Peace rav,

There are concerns now in Christian neighborhoods where there weren't yesterday, and there's concern there because there was a small missile fired at a what turned out to be a truck used for well-digging that from the air might have looked like a missile-launching truck. That was the first targeting in a Christian neighborhood, so there's growing concern in those neighborhoods now.

Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/19/robertson.otsc/index.html

What else has Israel and that photgrapher gotten wrong?
 
I'm not sure. I certainly do not have that kind of information zman, just like neither do you. However, the photographer who took the pictures was on the ground. The Israeli intel was probably in the air.
 
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July 23, 2006
Arab Herald & ig News Network / UPI
July 23, 2006

Why did Israel bomb two TV US-friendly stations in Lebanon — one of which was a Christian-owned broadcaster?

According to ABC News, Israel broke international laws against attacking nonmilitary targets in order to "prevent images" of civilians killed and injured by Israeli bombs from reaching TV audiences in the West.

Israel Bombs Lebanese TV, Mobile Phone, Transmission Towers

http://story.arabherald.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/c08dd24cec417021/id/15000d635ef22d4e/

I could see Israel bombing Hizbullah's Al Manar TV, but why the Christian LBC, which is also located in a Christian neighborhood?

Could have Hizbullah hid a few rockets inside the LBC building? It's worth exploring :rollseyes
 
It actually would be interesting. However, who knows what the motive was. We both do not know why it was done and what threat there was.

Either way, reps for your taking your time to pull all these articles. They are nice reads and although I view some of them bias I like to see all sides of the conflict, which I hope you are open to as well. As a Jew, I can admit when Israel does a wrong but it is extremely disheartening to see someone never admit any wrong doing on there part.
 
As a Jew, I can admit when Israel does a wrong but it is extremely disheartening to see someone never admit any wrong doing on there part.
too much hatred and fighting brings down rationality.But I don't think Hizbullah or Hamas militants would have resorted to bombs and human shields if they had a military power equal to that of Israel's.
 
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As a Jew, I can admit when Israel does a wrong but it is extremely disheartening to see someone never admit any wrong doing on there part.

Peace rav,

What have I done wrong and not have admitted to?

All I did was provide sources that refuted the claim that Hizbullah fighters or weapons were not in Christian neighborhoods.

Look at it this way:

1. Hizbullah isn't stupid to put their fighters or weapons in Christian areas, because the percentage of them being discovered or snitched on, increases.

2. There is no love lost between the Maronites and Muslims, particulary those who are members of Hizbullah. Locating the weapons and fighters in Muslim areas, increases their survivability.

3. By locating weapons and fighters in Christian neighborhoods, Hizbullah risks Israel attacking those areas, which will bring the Christians on the side of Israel, instead of being neutral in that conflict.

4. Hizbullah stated that they'll keep their battle confined to Southern Lebanon, in order not to risk the lives of Lebanese civilians. Every time Nasrallah made a promise, he's kept it, and Israel above all knows that.

5. Israel targeted Christian neighborhoods with the goal of dividing the Lebanese unity during its invasion. That way, the Christians would blame Hizbullah for the attacks and Join Israel, instead...
 
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