Question to our non-Muslim Friends

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rav said:
I think he said "conversion" as in, 'converting to islam'. Don't worry about it though, since when I read things to fast, I frequently may read a word wrong and than do a double take at it.
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opppps did you mean convert lol my bad:phew
 
wilberhum said:
A number of people have tried to "Tempt" me. :D Sorry it just isn't going to happen. :(


No sorries needed. No offense taken.

But is your sole purpose of this thread to get converts? :hmm:
If not, I'm courious as to what you are looking for.
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Ahh no Wilber its not to get converts but Mashallah if that happens. I just wanted see what people are learning.....if anything. The main point of forums when it comes to Islam is to educate and spread the messege of Islam. All i want to know are people just ignoring the Islam bit and going streight to the news and globals affairs topics?
 
SATalha said:
Ahh no Wilber its not to get converts but Mashallah if that happens. I just wanted see what people are learning.....if anything. The main point of forums when it comes to Islam is to educate and spread the messege of Islam. All i want to know are people just ignoring the Islam bit and going streight to the news and globals affairs topics?
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Cool. So to really answer what you want to know is I perty much "go streight to the news and globals affairs topics". I do participate and read a lot of the Comparative religion section.
But as an "Anti-Religion" agnostic, I do not seek detailed information about Islam.
 
"Anti-religion Agnostic" wooow thats a cool title to have.

"hey there what are ya"

"iam an ANTI-RELIGION AGNOSTIC.......what are you"

"Muslim";D :giggling:

Anyway back to the topic. I thought so Wilber.....stright to the Current Affairs section. You should try read some of the other sections. You mightbe suprised at what you find.......better yet......you might like it:D
 
I really liked how, at least until now, the muslims behave like one ummah (shia, sunni or other denomination):sunny:
 
SATalha said:
Ok we all know that this forum has many members all over the Globe and we also are fortunate to have non-Muslims hear as well. What i want to know is yur opinion of Islam and how you felt about Islam before the forum and how you feel now? Has this forum helped you understand Islam better? Has it removed any misconceptions? Or has your opinion of Islam become worse?

Inshallah use this thread to post your comments and opinions. I know we have some intellectual non-Muslims out there so contructive post's please. And most importantly be honest, if your opinion of Islam is realy low than dont be afraid to say so.
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Salam,

It is a really good forum for being open in expressing the momentary thought, and to then gauge the response to your self in among the Ummah, and of those non-Muslims whom are infatuated with the Ummah, either in love or hate.

Thanks for asking
 
Tania said:
I really liked how, at least until now, the muslims behave like one ummah (shia, sunni or other denomination):sunny:
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Hi Tania, could you elaborate a bit more on what your saying:D
Iam a bit slow like that:hiding:
 
SATalha said:
Hi Tania, could you elaborate a bit more on what your saying:D
Iam a bit slow like that:hiding:
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I don't have really what to elaborate but i never read in any post bad words between different muslims, like "get out from here , you s...", " you are not even muslim" so on.
 
SATalha said:
You should try read some of the other sections. You mightbe suprised at what you find.......better yet......you might like it:D [/B]
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Tried it, didn't like it. :thumbs_do
Same material Christianity is made of, just a different coat of paint. :hmm:
So Wilber when u planning 2 take the testimony?
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My court appearance is tomorrow. :happy: :happy: :happy:
 
Tania said:
I don't have really what to elaborate but i never read in any post bad words between different muslims, like "get out from here , you s...", " you are not even muslim" so on.
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ohh i understand....yeah your right that is something that is cool about the forum.:D

Wilber i dont mean that sort of testimony...............:giggling:
 
SATalha said:
Ok we all know that this forum has many members all over the Globe and we also are fortunate to have non-Muslims hear as well. What i want to know is yur opinion of Islam and how you felt about Islam before the forum and how you feel now? Has this forum helped you understand Islam better? Has it removed any misconceptions? Or has your opinion of Islam become worse?

Inshallah use this thread to post your comments and opinions. I know we have some intellectual non-Muslims out there so contructive post's please. And most importantly be honest, if your opinion of Islam is realy low than dont be afraid to say so.
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My opinion of the religion itself hasn't changed. I have simply learned more about it. I understand more. It has removed some misconceptions and also helped me realize that some misconceptions were actually real. My opinion of Islam isn't low, just my opinion of some "muslims".
 
tomtomsmom said:
My opinion of the religion itself hasn't changed. I have simply learned more about it. I understand more. It has removed some misconceptions and also helped me realize that some misconceptions were actually real. My opinion of Islam isn't low, just my opinion of some "muslims".
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ok thanks can you name something positive about Islam?:okay:
 
Salaaam.

I posted a reply in this thread, but included a link to what was considered an "anti muslim" website. My apologies, I did not intend to offend, and i will not do it again.

However, I disagree that the site in question is anti muslim. This is one of the difficulties I have with Islam. There seems to be no tolerance for intellectual questioning, and this is not attractive. If Islam is true, it can withstand questioning, and has nothing to fear.

I will respond more fully later.

peace

Ibrahim
 
Ibrahim Spinoza said:
Salaaam.

I posted a reply in this thread, but included a link to what was considered an "anti muslim" website. My apologies, I did not intend to offend, and i will not do it again.

However, I disagree that the site in question is anti muslim. This is one of the difficulties I have with Islam. There seems to be no tolerance for intellectual questioning, and this is not attractive. If Islam is true, it can withstand questioning, and has nothing to fear.

I will respond more fully later.

peace

Ibrahim
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There is a difference between intellectual literature and that which is considered false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a man, a religion or people!... it is actully against the law, as it is a form of libel and slander.. that beside, do you consider the protocols of the elders of Zion 'intellectual'? Many will contend its contents are authentic within reason, and ring so very true today.. try finding it under Amazon and see what comes up... Amazon has come under a lot of scrutiny for selling such material that now there is a prevising on the page with Amazon delineating the protocols as 'fiction'!... perhaps one day they can grant Islam the same courtesy? -- but I doubt it!

If you have 'intellectual' questions about Islam, there is a refutation section to this forum and I believe it handles well all allegations leveled against Islam in a clear and concise fashion...

If Islam isn't attractive to you, you are not alone!.. I assure you there is a whole welcome wagon of people who share your views all you need to do is but google. You'd be surprised (maybe not) by the prevarications people will stoop to when given anonymity.

I too can cement any idea with a cut-and-paste about any group ( blacks, hispanics, Jews, Italians, Irish nationalists, Mormons) and quote me a cluster of hooligans and present it as truth... I tend to believe, that folks find exactly what they are looking for when on a quest, and further securing my beliefs in hollow globule with like minds. Happens all the time, it isn't a sign of enlightenment or reason I assure you, just another form of herd mentality and forgive my saying very en vogue!

Islam withstood worst calamities in history!.. I am sure it will manage to survive the poor opinions of the disillusioned!-- I happen to have had a glimpse into your post from yesterday where you identified (reformed Muslims) as the few intelligentsia, whereas the rest are ignorant and under-educated..
I don't know what you meant by that.. I thought it fell along the lines of a vituperative railing...There are various studies, posted here even if you'll use your search engine that speaks of very cultivated and learned Muslims..
Middle Eastern Immigrants in U.S. Educated, Prosperous, Study Says
Gannett News Service, August 15, 2002

(Also ran in Arizona Republic - 8/15)

WASHINGTON — Middle Eastern immigrants in the United States are well educated, earn more money than most Americans and are predominantly Muslim, according to a report released Wednesday.
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You may do a google search just by sticking that afore mentioned statement into a search engine!

lastly, there is no such a thing as a 'reformed Muslims'-- you are either Muslims or you are a hypocrite!-- contrast that with the new and praised vociferously 'moderates' to which we say again you are either a good Muslim or a bad one!...
peace!
 
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Ibrahim Spinoza said:
This is one of the difficulties I have with Islam. There seems to be no tolerance for intellectual questioning, and this is not attractive. If Islam is true, it can withstand questioning, and has nothing to fear.
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Whoa! Sorry, but I see it as the exact opposite. My journey to Islam has been nothing but "ask", "find out", "explore". Not once did I ever ask a question about something in Islam and got the answer "Oh, that's just what God wants, accept it", except maybe from a few Islamically uneducated individuals. Islam pretty much orders you the seek knowledge that can benefit you, and what can benefit you more than knowledge about Islam itself?
 
Skywalker said:
Whoa! Sorry, but I see it as the exact opposite. My journey to Islam has been nothing but "ask", "find out", "explore". Not once did I ever ask a question about something in Islam and got the answer "Oh, that's just what God wants, accept it", except maybe from a few Islamically uneducated individuals. Islam pretty much orders you the seek knowledge that can benefit you, and what can benefit you more than knowledge about Islam itself?
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Exactly bro. Allah (SWT) tells us to ponder and qustion the wonders of creation. I find that some websites when they attempt to criticise Islam they cannot do it constructivly. People like Ali Sinna are a few names i can mention, they claim they write with Islamic sources, but its all a bunch of flowered-up lies.

Anyway thankyou to my non-Muslim friends, you have helped greatly, Keep posting Inshallah.:D
 

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