Did Allah create life?

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:salamext:

God is not the creator of all things.

Are taking the mick?

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

What's the islamic reply on this one:
God is not created, he did not create himself.

agreed

At least one thing in existence is not created (by god).

disagreed

God is not the creator of all things.

The question itself arouses some new questions, which I'll try to do later..

in order for something to be created it needs a creator. God never needed a creator and was never created.

stop confusing yourself young lad.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Does anyone know why this thread is in the 'Introduce Yourself' section?

Peace

 

[guyabano]

To make it easier on ur mind first accept that there is one god! (Nothing is before him, and nothing is after him!)
Don't get caught asking questions which will never have an answer to! Ur life will be a mess, because u going to end questioning stuff which will never be answered, NEVER!

Well, and here is the part, where our opinions split. I refuse to believe in something/someone whose existence has never been prooven.
Science/Evolution is something I can touch and proove, but existance of God, no.

In that case, my decision has been made.

Peace

 

[Whatsthepoint]

agreed
disagreed
in order for something to be created it needs a creator. God never needed a creator and was never created.

The reply does not satisfy me, it confuses me even further.
God cannot be the creator of everything and at the same time not be created..

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

God cannot be the creator of everything and at the same time not be created..

do you not realise the difference between a creator and created?

EVERYTHING is created, and God is the CREATOR.


hope thats clear now

 

[Whatsthepoint]

do you not realise the difference between a creator and created?

EVERYTHING is created, and God is the CREATOR.


hope thats clear now

God is a part of everything.
He is no created.
Not everything is created yb God.

 

[Abdul-Raouf]

It is said in the Quran that Allah created life. If Allah were to have created life, there would have been no life till He created it. If there was no life till He created it, Allah would have been dead till He created life. This is a logical absurdity. Can my brethren in Islam therefore please explain why it is said in the Quran that Allah created life?

Hi Venu ... me too from india... nice to meet u...

Welcome to LI...


Can u please explain me more about your logic behind that sentence....

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

God is a part of everything.

thats a hindu belief.

He is no created.

agreed

Not everything is created yb God.

Disagreed, God created everything

 

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:salamext:

^ Lol I think ur on something, ur going round in circles. @ whatsthepoint

Get with it!!

God is the Creator. If He is the CREATOR he does not need to be created.

He created everything.

Comprehende?!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

thats a hindu belief.

I didn't mean it in that way, I know muslims believe he is above creation or soemthing liek that.
Let me rephrase it...
Everything is everything there is. God is. God is a part of everything.

 

[Ibn Al Aqwa]

When people begin trying to comprehend things they cannot, they begin confusing themselves and doubts are created. Them doubts are spurred by the shaytaan.

just thought id say that...Salaam...

 

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:salamext:

^ No he's not.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

When people begin trying to comprehend things they cannot, they begin confusing themselves and doubts are created. Them doubts are spurred by the shaytaan.

just thought id say that...Salaam...

Why is it fine use logic to prove the existence of god, the rightness of islam, the wrongness of all other religions....it seems human logic is fine until it creates confusion.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Everything is everything there is.

ok i can accept that as long as you realise God created everything which there is.

God is.

if you mean he exists then yeah

God is a part of everything.

thats hindu belief, but if you mean he created everything, then yeah ! but you cant go up to a chair and think its God just because God created it

 

[Whatsthepoint]

:salamext:

^ No he's not.

Prove it.
Why god is not a part of everything there is?
everything is a category not the universe.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

ok i can accept that as long as you realise God created everything which there is.
if you mean he exists then yeah
thats hindu belief, but if you mean he created everything, then yeah ! but you cant go up to a chair and think its God just because God created it

I think it's a christian belief as well, but that's not the point.
God is, whereas he does not exist...that's a long story.
I don't think you see where I'm getting at with everything. Eevrything is not the material word, the universe...it's a category, a group of everything that is, of everything that exists. God is, therefore he is an objext in that group. God is supposed to create everything, yet he did not create at elast one object in the category of everything.
You can say god created all created things or everything but himself etc. Whereas God created eevrything does not seem to be a valid statement.

 

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:salamext:

Lol ur just tryna confuse us man.... take ur ideas where they're appreciated, coz they aren't here!

 

[Whatsthepoint]

:salamext:

Lol ur just tryna confuse us man.... take ur ideas where they're appreciated, coz they aren't here!

Fine..

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^ no sis his not confusing me at all, i just cant comprehend how he doesnt see the deep flaws in what his saying.


anyway, peace