Woman wearing veil told to leave Italian museum

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Ok brothers and sisters all calm down. Allah knows best. Please stop being so angry.
 
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Ok brothers and sisters all calm down. Allah knows best. Please stop being so angry.
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JazakAllah Khayr sis. Please keep this in mind guys. Ramadhaan is round the corner, let us all try to approach it in the best way possible, and refrain from getting into heated discussions. JazakAllah Khayr.

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qassy! said:
If you want to be stubborn be, if you dont want to understand it dont.
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if theres anyone thats not understanding its you.
Whilst you may not personally like or support it, it doesnt mean that it has no place in islam.
For example i personally think it has a V high place in islam (wajib) however i accept and respect that this is not the opinion of everyone and would never think of looking down on a muslim woman that is not veiled because that is her choice.
In other words i accept her difference of opinion and support her. I dont ridicule her (which is what you come across as doing to veiled women)
 
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If the veil is haram because it is haram in the state of Ihram, then that would make wearing a topi, cutting the nails and slaughtering animals haram too.

And if it is haram because it makes Muslims look bad, does that mean that Halal slaughter is haram too? Many people in the west think that halal slaughter is inhumane.
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There was a very good point made, which is the reality of security. In the West in particular, those who hide their faces are thought to be hiding intention. Obviously the majority of women who wear veils aren't plotting some attack, but when a security person sees an individual with a hidden face it will obviously raise his or her interest. For Muslims living in a Western country, there are certain instances when a hidden face is going to cause problems for you.
 
qassy! said:
No but veil is used to make islam look bad, why not just show ur face and where head scarf why do u need 2 go that extra?
By do that your

Making islaam look bad

which is already bad enough

but you cant educate about viel, because its not always used for the good,we all know about this part
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Excuse me? kuffars are making Islam bad by giving NEGATIVE media image of Islam. This has been stated by many Muslim and non_Muslim leaders about the western media. Even UN told the kuffars of Britian to start treating their Muslims better.

Statements like those only show the ignorance one has of Islam and it's teachings. If veil is used to make Islam look bad then i guess the wives of the Prophet (saws) - the mothers of the believers and the muslim women of the first 3 generations (the best people of the ummah) made Islam look bad also? especially since Islam was new in their time as well as it is in kuffar society for us Muslims. They were ghuraaba among the pagans and we are the ghuraba among the kuffars, and glad tidings have been given to the ghurabas.

So bro how about you read up on Islam, niqaab, and islamic history before making such ignorant remarks.

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Note to Mods: I think we should close done world affairs for the ramadan inshallah.
 
qassy! said:
No but veil is used to make islam look bad, why not just show ur face and where head scarf why do u need 2 go that extra?
By do that your

Making islaam look bad

which is already bad enough

but you cant educate about viel, because its not always used for the good,we all know about this part
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make islaam look bad? u need to be taught urself akh. u said it urself, and sis amani Allah ya7fadhha said it, at the least mustahab and at the most waajib, either way EXTRA IS GOOD. hadaana Allah, this ummah is so weak.

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islamirama said:
Excuse me? kuffars are making Islam bad by giving NEGATIVE media image of Islam. This has been stated by many Muslim and non_Muslim leaders about the western media. Even UN told the kuffars of Britian to start treating their Muslims better.

Statements like those only show the ignorance one has of Islam and it's teachings. If veil is used to make Islam look bad then i guess the wives of the Prophet (saws) - the mothers of the believers and the muslim women of the first 3 generations (the best people of the ummah) made Islam look bad also? especially since Islam was new in their time as well as it is in kuffar society for us Muslims. They were ghuraaba among the pagans and we are the ghuraba among the kuffars, and glad tidings have been given to the ghurabas.

So bro how about you read up on Islam, niqaab, and islamic history before making such ignorant remarks.

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Note to Mods: I think we should close done world affairs for the ramadan inshallah.
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Your making it sound like im saying wearing the veil is bad. Im not. Im trying to get the point across, is that people wearing veils put a threat to people in western countries even in the UK.

People are scared of their lives because of the terrorism business, I know Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, but we need to teach this. We need to show Islam is a nice religion and not bad. We need to do this by not wearing viels, and making the community around us happier. Can you blame leaders like George Bush for hating Islam? THink of it, you run a country and so called "Muslims" start blowing the place up.

If you where uneducated in islam and a christians started 2 cause terrorism, and they say "in the name of jesus" and blew up the train what would you think>?

WHy not wear a headscarff instead?
Stat to show people Islam is a nice religon?
It will not only make it better for us, but being muslim in a western country will also make it easier for our children.

Why cover your face when you walk into shops? You need to show your face on CCTV, just because there muslim women wearing veils doesnt mean there a better muslim then me or you does it? So why not show your face for secuity

EDIT: And no it shouldnt, we are having a debate / discussion.

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make islaam look bad? u need to be taught urself akh. u said it urself, and sis amani Allah ya7fadhha said it, at the least mustahab and at the most waajib, either way EXTRA IS GOOD. hadaana Allah, this ummah is so weak.

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and sister i dont think you should be judging people.
 
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judging people? what, is this ummah strong? masha Allah.

im outta here insha Allah,

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Okey-dokey. The thread has become seriously derailed. It's not about the veil in general, but just about this particular news story.

Since all discussion of that news story seems to have been exhausted, I'm going to close this thread.

Discussion about the veil in general belongs in topics such as these:

Niqab

The Niqab - An Obligation or Not?

Niqab [is it compulsory?]
 
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