Channel 4's 'Undercover Mosque' returns

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Zafran said:
salaam

well all the mosques i have been to and never have i heard "kill the kuffar" or anything carzy as that, Its always been about, respecting your parents, following the prophet of God, reading the salat prayers and fasting in the month of Ramadan.
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Very confusing. I have to say it's difficult for me to get my head around.

I haven't been inside a Christian church for many years but I suspect that the Sunday sermons are pretty much as they always were and I believe that one sermon would be pretty much indistinguishable from another in any church in any part of the country. And, if any preacher in any one suddenly started espousing a view that was any way askew to the party line the congregation would do something.

Now I have a picture in my head with one Mosque preaching ‘this’ and another ‘that’ and the congregation sat there with a blank expression on their faces. It just seems odd to me that it is accepted as normal that a divergence of opposite view points can be preached in the same institutions. Are mosques places where anybody can get up and preach whatever they like – maybe they are?
 
You get nuts everywhere. But I do think Imams should monitor who is preaching what within the Mosques.
 
I remember watching the one produced a year ago. It couldn't be more obvious to someone who is familiar with Islam that almost ever single time they showed an imam saying something it was incomplete or taken out of context. Especially the one with Khalid Yasin and the supposed 'brainwashing' that was such a cheap shot!! It couldn't be more obvious that it was completely out of context, an innocent statement made to seem so sinister.

These show producers are without morals, I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of their mouths, and the letter posted earlier, written by Khalid Yasin, reflects my views on the matter perfectly.

They are nothing more than trouble makers seeking to brainwash an already ignorant community and feeding on their fears to make themselves a buck. Pathetic. They aren't worth the time of day. May Allah expose them as the liars they are!
 
Malaikah said:
I remember watching the one produced a year ago. It couldn't be more obvious to someone who is familiar with Islam that almost ever single time they showed an imam saying something it was incomplete or taken out of context. Especially the one with Khalid Yasin and the supposed 'brainwashing' that was such a cheap shot!! It couldn't be more obvious that it was completely out of context, an innocent statement made to seem so sinister.

These show producers are without morals, I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of their mouths, and the letter posted earlier, written by Khalid Yasin, reflects my views on the matter perfectly.

They are nothing more than trouble makers seeking to brainwash an already ignorant community and feeding on their fears to make themselves a buck. Pathetic. They aren't worth the time of day. May Allah expose them as the liars they are!
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So you are 100% sure anti brittish and anti democratic teachings dont happen in brittish mosques?
You are sure that there are really no extremist and anti western preachers in UK mosques?
If you cant give 100% guarantee, so its good that there are programmes like Dispatches.
Because, you think that the brittish state can tolerate such teachings on their soil? In Saudi Arabia, yes. In Pakistan, sure. But not in England.
 
OK, I just watched the programme, I'd like to hear from my Muslim friends here on what they thought of what was said

. . . . . . .Muslim friends - oops sorry, forgot you're not allowed to have non Mulsim friends!!!
 
^^^ lol

OK, correct me If I'm wrong, this was the same old stuff. Was hoping It would be more entertaining! - I've yet to meet Muslims who think this way.
 
Am I the only one that watched this programme? Is there not someone out there who will tell me that the Saudi teachers told it wrong?
 
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Oh was it on today? I honestly forgot. By the sounds of it, I didn't miss much.
 
btw here is something for you westerners who are loving this program:

I share the imam's outrage at the way a peaceful monotheistic religion - so close to Christianity and Judaism in its essential beliefs - has been hijacked. To hear a call for the killing of someone because of his or her sexuality or for changing their faith in what is meant to be a place of contemplation is truly shocking.

this is a comment by the lady who went undercover spying like a rat. so perhaps you westerners who are foaming of joy will take this comment into your prespective.

and btw AARON, several Christians preach against homosexuality, and many of the liberal values USA and UK have, why dont we make a program on them? i am personally debating one of these Christians in November as well. offcourse you will make some lovely excuses now and say ohhhhhh its different bla bla bla.
 
The_Prince said:
btw here is something for you westerners who are loving this program:
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Wow – you do get very excited very quickly.

What I was hoping for was someone who would pick up what was said by the Saudi teachers and produce a verse from the Qur’an showing how they were wrong.

I have to say Prince (at the risk of raising your hackles further) you would do better to deliver some content rather than just shouting out your anger (amazing how I can hear that just through your text).
 
The_Prince said:
and btw AARON, several Christians preach against homosexuality, and many of the liberal values USA and UK have, why dont we make a program on them? i am personally debating one of these Christians in November as well. offcourse you will make some lovely excuses now and say ohhhhhh its different bla bla bla.
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Of course that many christian priests preach against committing homosexual acts. They do this since many years and will do it. Jewish rabbis also.
Its just there is difference between saying - "Homosexual act is wrong" and a statement that - "Active homosexuals shall be killed".
 
The_Prince said:
btw here is something for you westerners who are loving this program:

this is a comment by the lady who went undercover spying like a rat.
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Prince, instead of getting angry for obtuse reasons, use your intellect and education to produce solid logical and evidenced arguement showing that what the Saudi teachers were preaching was incorrect.
 
Not that I watched it, but May Allah give them what they deserve.

As for the constant use of the words "intolerant" and "extremism", I think that you, and your colleagues at Channel 4, or HardCash Productions, have been indelibly and consistently exhibiting the most vehement and malicious religious intolerance and journalistic extremism, of nearly anyone in the entire television industry of the United Kingdom!

Not only are you inaccurate, but you are scandalous, unethical and merchants of jounalistic vomit. Your motives are not morally driven, nor aimed at the intellectualization of your viewers. Rather, you are resorting to the use of cheap sensational journalism, to exploit an unaware and pre-conditioned public, in order to make the "bottom line" profit that sustains your "Channel 4 - HardCore" vomit factory.
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Hi Thinker,
Thinker said:
What I was hoping for was someone who would pick up what was said by the Saudi teachers and produce a verse from the Qur’an showing how they were wrong.
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I did not hear the Saudi teachers produce any evidence from the Qur'an and hadith to support what they were saying. The burden of proof lies on them, not us.

I have to admit, I was shocked to hear some of the things that were being said by the woman in the mosque, although she appeared to retract some of her statements afterwards. I didn't actually intend to watch it, but I did watch most of it in the end because my brother wanted to.

Regards
 

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