He cannot lower his gaze because there are too many women

Your sentence had it coming, given that you tried to imply that men say it's impossible when they don't.

You must have read next sentence after the one I said,

I did not deny women are fitna to men. I clearly said isn’t as hard as people here make out.

I was suggesting the difficulties are exaggerated. I think it is exaggerated so much, one would think the whole deen is focused on the fitna of women!

If you are divorced and don't want to marry again, then that's your choice but just for reference: If you'd like a happy marriage, drop this men hating attitude.

What gave you the idea that I was divorced or never wanting to marry!

I was perfectly well in tune wit the topic, what I said is related. I think its u who shud stop jumping to conclusions n missed to understand my point.

Thanks for ur advice-joined-wit-insult. Its very beneficial...?

u got a very bitter tone, save it.

format_quote Originally Posted by sweet106

I was suggesting the difficulties are exaggerated. I think it is exaggerated so much, one would think the whole deen is focused on the fitna of women!

for many brothers the MAJOR contributing factor that stopped them from accepting/practising upon the truth was the fitna of women. really i think if men could learn only one thing it should be how to lower their gaze, after this everything else is basically secondary because it becomes so easy.

format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude

I know what you meant. I'd say you were the one doing some exaggerating.

You said you had bitter experiences (implying divorce) and you'd only change for your son (implying that you'd never marry).

Nope, I not am doing any exaggeration. If there was any exaggeration is probably from my observation.
And does these bitter experiences always lead to divorce?

My son is the most important “male” in my life!

format_quote Originally Posted by tango92

for many brothers the MAJOR contributing factor that stopped them from accepting/practising upon the truth was the fitna of women. really i think if men could learn only one thing it should be how to lower their gaze, after this everything else is basically secondary because it becomes so easy.

Salam

thanks for that.

format_quote Originally Posted by sweet106

Salam

thanks for that.

i meant other parts of the deen become easy, just to clarify...............................

brother alpha dude is right. women are a fitna for men. even imam buhkari reported this from the prophet mohammad (saw) and its a sound hadith.

this is why us women are ordered to cover up from head to toe. i think we should fear Allah and honestly keep our disagreements in our pockets inshallah.

format_quote Originally Posted by sweet106

I rather play the violin for greater hardship Muslims come across than lowering one’s gaze! And I embraced to say some Muslim men still stare at those wearing proper hijab and even nigab. As a result, some say women should be staying indoors 24/7

Are you saying that Muslim women are told to stay home, because men stare at them?

format_quote Originally Posted by Yanoorah

^Sis sweet106 doesn't need ur respect to be honest she spoke the truth, it hurts? get over it 'man'. Nor did she display any attitude, why are brothers getting all heated up about the simple truth?

Its true some brothers will hit on sistas even if they are dressed properly n are not wearing any make up, that doesn't make it the sisters fault, no1 cares about ur hormones excuses keep that to urself pls.

I was once in a lift wit a brotha who kept saying 'MashaAllah MashaAllah' but trust me it was no sincere mashaAllah, it was a pervy one.

Now I cringe when I hear the word 'MashaAllah'...

this happened with me too and i said Alhamdulilah.

u shouldnt cringe when u hear the word mashallah because he probably was just proud to see a sister who was modest looking

format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude

No, what you said was off.

"that doesn't make it the sisters fault, no1 cares about ur hormones excuses keep that to urself pls. "

This means: 'You guys here are giving pervy guys an excuse'. Which nobody did.

Some people did, re'read through the thread, not necessarily for harrasssing sistas, but that they can't lower their gaze. I was just speaking generally but its still related.

People usually find beneficial medicine bitter.

1 who gives sincere advice does not flatter himself.

format_quote Originally Posted by **muslimah**

Are you saying that Muslim women are told to stay home and because men stare at them?

I could not make it any clearer?

@Cat
I did not say women were not fitna to men!! I never said that at all. I didn’t even disagree with that! I simply had a problem with constant complaining about lowering one gaze and questioning the focus of these difficulties!

format_quote Originally Posted by sweet106

I could not make it any clearer?

@Cat
I did not say women were not fitna to men!! I never said that at all. I didn’t even disagree with that! I simply had a problem with constant complaining about lowering one gaze and questioning the focus of these difficulties!

okay sis

format_quote Originally Posted by **muslimah**

I've never seen or heard of any Muslim woman who's been told to stay home for the sake of men's gaze.

I have, plenty of times.

format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude

Me neither. Hence I say her attitude is one of exaggeration.

Because you never heard of it, it must be exaggeration on my part. great...