× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last
Results 1 to 20 of 38 visibility 4234

German football song irks Muslims

  1. #1
    Uthman's Avatar
    brightness_1
    LI News Service
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Warrington, England
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    5,513
    Threads
    691
    Rep Power
    150
    Rep Ratio
    98
    Likes Ratio
    2

    German football song irks Muslims

    Report bad ads?

    An anthem sung by fans of the German football club FC Schalke 04 has drawn protests from Muslims because of its reference to the Prophet Muhammad.

    The Gelsenkirchen club, which plays in Germany's top league, the Bundesliga, has asked an Islam expert to consider whether the song might be insulting.

    The third verse contains the words: "Muhammad was a prophet who understood nothing about football".

    "But of all the lovely colours he chose [Schalke's] blue and white," it goes.

    The club has received hundreds of e-mails from angry Muslims recently, since Turkish media carried reports about the song.

    Police in Gelsenkirchen, in the industrial Ruhr region of western Germany, say they are taking the Muslim complaints very seriously.

    The head of Germany's Central Council of Muslims, Aiman Mazyek, said his council would not call for a ban on the anthem, but would like "an explanation of its background".

    The song is called "Blue and White, how I love you" and in German the lyrics about Muhammad read: Mohammed war ein Prophet, der vom Fussballspielen nichts versteht. Doch aus all der schoenen Farbenpracht hat er sich das Blau und Weisse ausgedacht.

    The German news website Deutsche Welle says the song was written in 1924 and it is not clear when the Muhammad reference made its way in.

    Source

    German football song irks Muslims


    "I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."

    ~ 'Abdullāh bin al-Mubārak (rahimahullah)
    chat Quote

  2. Report bad ads?
  3. #2
    convert's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    440
    Threads
    5
    Rep Power
    94
    Rep Ratio
    81
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    i mean, uh, its not really insulting per say but it is quite odd why the Prophet's (saw) name is there in the first place
    chat Quote

  4. #3
    Blackpool's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Blackpool
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    434
    Threads
    81
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    48
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
    chat Quote

  5. #4
    Brasco's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    271
    Threads
    28
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    47
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: German football song irks Muslims



    Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!

    chat Quote

  6. Report bad ads?
  7. #5
    Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Tu kaun hai paiiii?
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Nu Yawk
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    7,218
    Threads
    74
    Rep Power
    132
    Rep Ratio
    45
    Likes Ratio
    2

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool View Post
    You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
    Who are the "you guys?" Those who got angry or us on the forum, or you mean every single Muslim you do not know? Way to generalize.

    format_quote Originally Posted by convert View Post
    i mean, uh, its not really insulting per say but it is quite odd why the Prophet's (saw) name is there in the first place
    Yea just what I was thinking. Allahu Alam though. It is a question to ask, why is it there? Indirect insult? I don't know.
    German football song irks Muslims

    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
    chat Quote

  8. #6
    GuestFellow's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    6,327
    Threads
    180
    Rep Power
    116
    Rep Ratio
    60
    Likes Ratio
    15

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    Meh I hate football. Whoever was chanting this German football song sound like hooligans.

    I agree with Light of Heaven. Sounds like an indirect insult.

    I'm not angry, just rather tired of seeing our religion in the spot light. Can we live in peace for crying out loud? -_-;;

    It is extremely annoying.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Black Pool
    You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
    We didn't do anything this time. O_o

    If they are doing to indirectly insult or mention our Prophet in a negative aspect, then be prepared at least for a reaction or criticism.
    Last edited by GuestFellow; 08-05-2009 at 04:05 PM.
    German football song irks Muslims

    I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
    chat Quote

  9. #7
    Trumble's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Buddhist
    Posts
    3,275
    Threads
    21
    Rep Power
    120
    Rep Ratio
    33
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Brasco View Post


    Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!
    What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.

    'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
    chat Quote

  10. #8
    Brasco's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    271
    Threads
    28
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    47
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.

    'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
    Why do you get so mad? Truth is hurting, isn't it? ^^ I know when the song was written, but was it always used like that? and do not try to change the meaning! If it was utter rubbish, you would not respond this way!
    chat Quote

  11. #9
    Uthman's Avatar
    brightness_1
    LI News Service
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Warrington, England
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    5,513
    Threads
    691
    Rep Power
    150
    Rep Ratio
    98
    Likes Ratio
    2

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.
    The last sentence from the article implies that, although the song was written in 1924, the reference to Muhammad (peace be upon him) appeared some time afterwards.
    German football song irks Muslims


    "I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."

    ~ 'Abdullāh bin al-Mubārak (rahimahullah)
    chat Quote

  12. Report bad ads?
  13. #10
    Brasco's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    271
    Threads
    28
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    47
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    the orginal text was written for Schlumpfhausen and this was in 1924 but Schalke adapted this text and changed and what was the change?? wanna guess? next time, do more research!!

    Bro it is not to you! it is the respond to trumble!
    chat Quote

  14. #11
    Lost&Found's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    46
    Threads
    6
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    73
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Brasco View Post


    Oh yeah! I've heard about this also! Me and some brothers did petition and send many mails to the club's PR, but we did not get any respond. Insha'allahu ta'ala everything will be okay and nothing bad is gonna happen - of course it is our duty to protect the honour of Rasulullah, peace and blessings be upon him, his honour is also our honour. The Sahabi would fight until the last man for his protection, and we'll do it the same way insha'allah! It makes me really sad that this anti-islam campaign reached that level! It is a war against islam!

    Lol.
    chat Quote

  15. #12
    Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Tu kaun hai paiiii?
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Nu Yawk
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    7,218
    Threads
    74
    Rep Power
    132
    Rep Ratio
    45
    Likes Ratio
    2

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.

    'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
    Too much sugar today?
    German football song irks Muslims

    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
    chat Quote

  16. #13
    GuestFellow's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    6,327
    Threads
    180
    Rep Power
    116
    Rep Ratio
    60
    Likes Ratio
    15

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    What utter rubbish! There's nothing 'offensive' here at all unless somebody busts a gut actively seeking it. Had you bothered to read the story you will see that the song was written in 1924, and nobody these days even knows why Mohammed was mentioned.

    'War against Islam?' "fight to the last man"? GROW UP!! Or if you already have, at least try and develop a sense of proportion!
    format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven View Post
    Too much sugar today?
    I think so.
    German football song irks Muslims

    I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
    chat Quote

  17. #14
    Brasco's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    271
    Threads
    28
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    47
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    I could post the orginal song! but it is really sacrilegious May allah ta'ala forgive me well here is it:



    Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich Dich

    (Text und Musik: Papa Schlumpf / 1924)
    Blau und Weiß, wie lieb ich Dich
    Blau und Weiß, verlass mich nicht
    Blau und Weiß ist ja der Pimmel nur
    Blau und Weiß ist unsere Schlumpfgarnitur

    Hätten wir ein Königreich
    Machten wir es den Schlümpfen gleich
    Schlumpfine, die so jung und schön
    Müsste in Blau und Weiß spazieren gehn

    Mohammed war ein Prophet
    Der vom Schlumpfen nichts versteht
    Doch aus all der schönen Farbenpracht
    Hat er sich das Blau und Weiße ausgedacht

    Tausend Feuer in der Nacht
    Haben uns das große Glück gebracht
    Tausend Freunde, die zusammenstehn
    Dann wird Schlumpfhausen niemals untergehn.

    Now you see what I mean! A non muslim has eyes, but he is blind! It does not matter in what time it was written! The religion of Allah ta'ala had always its enmies!

    Bro and sis, check this up:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nAA9fBc87Y
    chat Quote

  18. Report bad ads?
  19. #15
    Tony's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Islamic belief
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Bradford, West Yorkshire
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,766
    Threads
    56
    Rep Power
    109
    Rep Ratio
    149
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool View Post
    You guys need to give it a break, seriously. Concentrate on those who use Islam as justification for murder, rape and torture. There are more important things to worry about.
    I tend to agree here as there is worse, the problem is that with footy the fans are now likely to try and be offensive whreas b4, they were just being ignorant. Football chants are designed to get reaction and to tuant but this doesnt strike me as being outright offensive, but then I suppose there was a need for some sort of response. The trouble is with world cup next yr, this is the sort of thing that can cause big problems when playing muslim countries such as Turkey, Turkish hooligans are great in number and unrelenting in their attacks when they believe they have been wronged. I just hope all will be ok next yr
    German football song irks Muslims

    "O ye who belive! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to Allah, in order that you may succeed"
    chat Quote

  20. #16
    جوري's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Soldier Through It!
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    من ارض الكنانة
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    27,759
    Threads
    1260
    Rep Power
    259
    Rep Ratio
    89
    Likes Ratio
    23

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    I am not sure why they are putting the prophet at all in any song about anything?
    what nonsense is this?

    I personally don't want to concentrate of the ones using Islam for 'murder or rape' as per above, you concoct and give enough air time to the brouhaha for anything to be left over for us to comment on.

    what an incredible preoccupation and sickness presides in their heart ..

    sob7an Allah
    German football song irks Muslims

    Text without context is pretext
    If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him 44845203 1 - German football song irks Muslims

    chat Quote

  21. #17
    north_malaysian's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Penang Island, Malaysia
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    8,215
    Threads
    219
    Rep Power
    131
    Rep Ratio
    30
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Uthmān View Post

    The third verse contains the words: "Muhammad was a prophet who understood nothing about football".


    Unless there were football matches in Mecca and Medina during Prophethood period... I dont think it's offensive..

    format_quote Originally Posted by Uthmān View Post
    "But of all the lovely colours he chose [Schalke's] blue and white," it goes.


    blue? dont think so...
    German football song irks Muslims

    Assalamualaykum... I am back!!
    chat Quote

  22. #18
    glo's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    England
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Christianity
    Posts
    8,472
    Threads
    395
    Rep Power
    149
    Rep Ratio
    73
    Likes Ratio
    18

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    I am confused ... is there a connection between Muhammed and the colours blue and white???
    German football song irks Muslims

    Peace
    glocandle ani 1 - German football song irks Muslims

    Here I stand.
    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
    Amen.

    Come, let us worship and bow down •
    and kneel before the Lord our Maker

    [Psalm 95]

    chat Quote

  23. #19
    جوري's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Soldier Through It!
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    من ارض الكنانة
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    27,759
    Threads
    1260
    Rep Power
    259
    Rep Ratio
    89
    Likes Ratio
    23

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    no connection, it is a dumb song chanted by dumb people!
    German football song irks Muslims

    Text without context is pretext
    If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him 44845203 1 - German football song irks Muslims

    chat Quote

  24. Report bad ads?
  25. #20
    north_malaysian's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Penang Island, Malaysia
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    8,215
    Threads
    219
    Rep Power
    131
    Rep Ratio
    30
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: German football song irks Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    no connection, it is a dumb song chanted by dumb people!
    personally, i think that the football (soccer) fans are the craziest of all sports fan.. months before we had a riot at a stadium where they burnt cars..
    Last edited by north_malaysian; 08-06-2009 at 06:51 AM.
    German football song irks Muslims

    Assalamualaykum... I am back!!
    chat Quote


  26. Hide
Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last
Hey there! German football song irks Muslims Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. German football song irks Muslims
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 33
    Last Post: 12-15-2006, 06:40 PM
  2. German Muslims Extol Halal Butchery Ruling
    By Nσσя'υℓ Jαи& in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-26-2006, 02:44 AM
  3. German help.
    By muslim_friend in forum Misc Languages
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 06-29-2006, 04:03 PM
  4. German Court Curbs Data-trawling of Muslims
    By sonz in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-24-2006, 08:30 PM
  5. Sebta Muslims Demand Apology for Derogatory Song
    By sonz in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-08-2006, 06:11 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create