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So as the title reads, what are your views and beliefs on the subjects? Do you believe a "secret organisation" known as the "Illuminati" are controlling the world? Do you think the Freemasons are connected to all this, and those (our leaders) of power, who are supposedly here to help and protect us or whatever else. Just wish to know if there are any others out here, and what are your views. Also, do you believe this Illuminati stuff is just a load of rubbish? Why? Let's hear some opinions and ideas..
Last edited by -Fallen Angel-; 09-30-2010 at 01:08 PM.
Yes, I do believe that they are in control over the world today. (ofcourse Allah is the best of planners and He is Rabb and He is the sole owner and cherisher of all the worlds). But I dont have time to express my views nowformat_quote Originally Posted by -Fallen Angel-
, will share later.
There was a time when I was so low and was obsessed by Illuminati and freemasonry that I was losing my religion :XBut Alhamdulillah and yeah...I am here.
Yea that's good, don't fall to the devilformat_quote Originally Posted by abdulmājidThere was a time when I was so low and was obsessed by Illuminati and freemasonry that I was losing my religion :X
It was after the knowledge of Illuminati that I convinced myself to shun music especially the mainstream artists' (Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Avril Lavigne, Michael Jackson and many more)
Yea, knowledge is power but not to be abused eh?format_quote Originally Posted by abdulmājidIt was after the knowledge of Illuminati that I convinced myself to shun music especially the mainstream artists' (Linkin Park, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Avril Lavigne, Michael Jackson and many more)
i had interest in this topic so i had read some book regarding this...some by egyptian scholars and some by Pakistani......and i am sure the facts about Freemasonry can not be denied..........if u are a science student go to google and search HAARP....u will be amazed what they are planning....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are all agent of Dijjal and msot probabbly who is imprisoned in Barmoda Triangle...anyway blv its vvvvv.critical time....wake up bro and sis and be prepare....and blv Molana Umer Palanpori son write a book about this and he proved that only solution to this fitna is work of daawa...bcz only one with strong faith will be safe from these fitnas..........
below i want to bit write about the HARRP project....
actually the Freemasonry had been succeeded in taking over the control of
1. weather condition of any area.... its by ionization of inosphere, they can controll climatic change.. eg if they want there will be no raining in any muslilm area...that what will be the power of dijjal as mentioned in hadaath that he can make Qahat in any area.
2. the earth rotation speed. if its varied the length of the day will be changed. as its said in hadith when dajjal came, 1 day will be equal to 1 year. earth cover 1 rotation in 24 hours and when dajjal came they reduce its speed and one ay will be a length of 360 days...(times is a relative quantity and its proved by Einstiens)
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its very lengthy topic... ijust write few lines so that we got a stimulation to got up and think what is going on and what to do...its 1000% sure we can never compete them wrt to technology but with our strong eman ALLAH SWT will make us Ghaliab.....so strength ur eman with the effort of dawa.......
JZK
Call them illuminati, Call them what you like...in Islam we call them Shayateen
different groups...folks who stoop to a low level, chilling with the devil
soul heavily severed...battered some have nothing left...All feel like they have a tight belt around their chest
gasping for breath cus life feels like birth...10 seconds and then death
walking the earth arrogant...oblivious to the fact that death is apparent
like a lamp post that hits you on the face whilst you look the opposite way
Illuminati? old men...corporate fat cats....the men behind your cherished entertainment...government
hell-bent on causing moral compass impairment...
...on a global level
pressing the red button on your remote control sets you on your way of becoming a rebel.
or
you can revel in your own ignorance
for instance? tuning into another episode of desperate housewives
numbing yourself from whats real...organizations that steal resources leaving pregnant African kids infested with houseflies how nice?
Illuminati?....
The quran silences them...keeps them agitated, snatches their sight blinds them like a heaven sent diamond
im stuck in this abyss...if i had one last wish...id wish they'd all slowly die from inhaling hydrogen cyanide mist
luckily hell blazes..so when the sparks touch they'll have hindsight and say O! would that I were dust.
What my view? thats my view...so diversify your bonds cus having no clue is no excuse!
Last edited by Cabdullahi; 09-30-2010 at 02:36 PM.
Yea pretty much, though they are unfond of religion as a whole and would like nothing better than to destroy the image of God in people, make them lose faith etc one way or another because end of the day it's the belief and faith that keeps people going. They can do whatever they want really, they all have a place reserved in hell no doubt.format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahiiCall them illuminati, Call them what you like...in Islam we call them Shayateen
different groups...folks who stoop to a low level, chilling with the devil
soul heavily severed...battered some have nothing left...All feel like they have a tight belt around their chest
gasping for breath cus life feels like birth...10 seconds and then death
walking the earth arrogant...oblivious to the fact that death is apparent
like a lamp post that hits you on the face whilst you look the opposite way
Illuminati? old men...corporate fat cats....the men behind your cherished entertainment...government
hell-bent on causing moral compass impairment...
...on a global level
pressing the red button on your remote control sets you on your way of becoming a rebel.
or
you can revel in your own ignorance
for instance? tuning into another episode of desperate housewives
numbing yourself from whats real...organizations that steal resources leaving pregnant African kids infested with houseflies how nice?
Illuminati?....
The quran silences them...keeps them agitated, snatches their sight blinds them like a heaven sent diamond
im stuck in this abyss...if i had one last wish...id wish they'd all slowly die from inhaling hydrogen cyanide mist
luckily hell blazes..so when the sparks touch they'll have hindsight and say O! would that I were dust.
What my view? thats my view...so diversify your bonds cus having no clue is no excuse!
I feel that these conspiracy theories are logistically impossible to coordinate.
The freemasons actually require their members to believe in some sort of higher power I think.format_quote Originally Posted by -Fallen Angel-
most of these conspiracy theories are just unintellectual marxist fairytales.
Yea they do, but there is a different between a new mason and a 33 degree.format_quote Originally Posted by ChargerCarl
Yea, it's clear that everything is fairytales, and all lies. It's best to stay blind to the truth because it makes life easier, right?format_quote Originally Posted by Lynx
No, but while sometimes as the saying goes "truth is stranger than fiction", in most cases it's the other way around. Regarding conspiracy theorists, those 'blind to the truth' tend to be those to whom the truth is far too dull.format_quote Originally Posted by -Fallen Angel-
Exactly. You can have a conversation with someone who will, in a matter of seconds, tell you that the world is being controlled by Freemasons, then say the Illuminati, then say the Elders of Zion, then say something else.No, but while sometimes as the saying goes "truth is stranger than fiction", in most cases it's the other way around. Regarding conspiracy theorists, those 'blind to the truth' tend to be those to whom the truth is far too dull.
At least the Freemasons actually exist, I guess. My uncle is one. I have a hard time picturing him in a cigar filled room deciding the fate of the world, though. Much less being the demon other posters would make of him and his friends. Makes me chuckle, actually.
Nobody said all freemasons are in control, and it seems you misunderstood what we're saying. I guess if one is not willing to hear the other side they won't understand what others are saying. It's very easy to misinterpret something, and while many conspiracy theorists do that, so do those who are "against" them. It also comes down to how you live, what you believe, your moral values etc, and many people it seems are lead by the TV rather than what's out there that they can see with their eyes. I must also add anybody who is such a "patriot" will deny any involvement of freemasons and the illuminati in our world today, and will deny any theories.. for the simple reason because they believe the truth is what is said on the tv. There also seems to be a misunderstanding, and people don't exactly understand what/who the illuminati are, and rather base their belief from things like Angels & Demons, believing the Illuminati are just a bunch of people who hate religion or whatever.format_quote Originally Posted by titus
Last edited by -Fallen Angel-; 10-01-2010 at 01:11 PM.
format_quote Originally Posted by -Fallen Angel-
So as the title reads, what are your views and beliefs on the subjects? Do you believe a "secret organisation" known as the "Illuminati" are controlling the world? Do you think the Freemasons are connected to all this, and those (our leaders) of power, who are supposedly here to help and protect us or whatever else. Just wish to know if there are any others out here, and what are your views. Also, do you believe this Illuminati stuff is just a load of rubbish? Why? Let's hear some opinions and
ideas..
No, I don't believe in any of this, because there is no evidence and I see no reason to as such beliefs bring no benefit. Should I follow nothing but conjecture? There's no need for the Illuminati to explain human selfishness and greed for power, money and love for the Dunya.
Last edited by Asiyah3; 10-01-2010 at 02:50 PM.
This is similar to the belief in "ugly" looks and beautiful clowns. Many people are ignorant enough to believe anything they are persuaded to believe; this also applies to their way of living. E.g. someone thinks they're ugly because others say so: http://www.islamicboard.com/advice-s...0841-ugly.html
More than anything else, ignorance is given authority by people to "rule the world". We cannot give all the credit/discredit to the Illuminati, as they're not alone in this corruption. Allah has created human beings with brains; the small 1.5-2kg objects many today prefer to be without.
Even a general understanding of politics and economics dispels most conspiracy crap. So that being said, the easy way out, to me anyway, is making up stories about super-villains trying to take over the world.format_quote Originally Posted by -Fallen Angel-
This poster hits the nail on the head:
No, I don't believe in any of this, because there is no evidence and I see no reason to as such beliefs bring no benefit. Should I follow nothing but conjecture? There's no need for the Illuminati to explain human selfishness and greed for power, money and love for the Dunya.
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