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    Asalamu Alaykum. I found this topic interesting, but is it halal to learn magic without using it the bad way?

    I spoke to a lot of wiccans and sufis about this, many who call themselves muslims and say it's fine as long as u dont misuse it

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    yes its haram. why do we need magic even for a 'good' way, there is no good way and its still done through the jinns and shaytans

    check this out:

    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/4010/learning%20magic
    and
    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/92810/learning%20magic
    Is learning magic haram?

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    There are several things associated with the word magic. There is the entertainment which is based upon illusion, sleight of hand and other types of devices that do not involve anything supernatural, just an illusion of the impossible being done. From what I understand that is permissible for entertainment provided it is understood that it all has a physical explanation and is not based upon any mysterious, supernatural power.

    Actual magic that involves things like spells is at best a waste of time and at worse a form of shirk. It is pure nonsense and very misleading. There is no distinction between "good' and "bad" magic. It is all a form of shirk as it is placing trust and prayers to something besides Allaaah(swt) keep away from such nonsense and have no fear of those who use it Allaah(swt) is the only power and those who delve into powers other than Allaah(swt) are truly misguided and mischief makers.
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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Wiccans who are Muslims? That's a new one.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    But if u just learn it for intelligence, and not for using it?

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Asalamu Alaykum
    it's haram please reed this:
    " And follow that which the devils falsely related against the kingdom of Solomon. Solomon disbelieved not; but the devils disbelieved, teaching mankind magic and that which was revealed to the two angels in Babel, Harut and Marut. Nor did they (the two angels) teach it to anyone till they had said: We are only a temptation, therefore disbelieve not (in the guidance of Allah). And from these two (angles) people learn that by which they cause division between man and wife; but they injure thereby no-one save by Allah's leave. And they learn that which harmeth them and profiteth them not. And surely they do know that he who trafficketh therein will have no (happy) portion in the Hereafter; and surely evil is the price for which they sell their souls, if they but knew"


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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by JeffX View Post
    Wiccans who are Muslims? That's a new one.
    The guy said "I am both muslim and wiccan"

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu View Post
    Asalamu Alaykum. I found this topic interesting, but is it halal to learn magic without using it the bad way?
    Wa'alaykumsalam. Learn Sihr (magic) is haram.
    I spoke to a lot of wiccans and sufis about this, many who call themselves muslims and say it's fine as long as u dont misuse it
    Wiccans are not Muslims but Neo-Pagan. Name Wicca itself is originally from Witchcraft.

    But Sufis are Muslims, and they are known as people who make many special du'a for special purpose, in example, du'a for protect house, du'a for protect someone from crime, du'a for terminate black magic, etc. Until this point I can not say they use magic. However, I found some of those Sufis are 'walk too far' and start to make a deal with jinn and use magic.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Du'a for protection of gin and Satan It is not the same what is magic and sihr.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    There are several things associated with the word magic. There is the entertainment which is based upon illusion, sleight of hand and other types of devices that do not involve anything supernatural, just an illusion of the impossible being done. From what I understand that is permissible for entertainment provided it is understood that it all has a physical explanation and is not based upon any mysterious, supernatural power.
    Illusion is permissible.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Guys, it's fine u say magic is haram, but LEARNING IT?

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Yes it is haraam and a major sin. The sufis' in my locality pratice it, they give out amulets containing numerology and other shirky stuff, they also tell you to put it in water and drink it for a certain number of days, this is magic.
    Is learning magic haram?

    “Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu View Post
    Guys, it's fine u say magic is haram, but LEARNING IT?
    Watch the video I posted. I may help you understand better how the jinns assist you and why.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    This will help you.
    http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/11809/
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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    There is no such thing as good magic, all magic is kufr.
    Is learning magic haram?

    “Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Some magic can eventually heal I have got told. I dunno if it's magic or something else though.

    What about reciting Alif Laam Meem while holding someones toes, it's said, that this is a major healing by many sufis.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu View Post
    Some magic can eventually heal I have got told. I dunno if it's magic or something else though.

    What about reciting Alif Laam Meem while holding someones toes, it's said, that this is a major healing by many sufis.
    Forget what the people tell you, look at what Allah tells you, learning and praticing magic is disbelief.

    And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew. Baqrah 102.
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    “Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Ok, Shukran.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    allah bless you brother .


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