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    Britain is in 'moral decline'

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    Four in five people believe Britain is in 'moral decline'


    Four out of five Britons think the nation is in moral decline, according to a poll published yesterday. Only one in ten said standards of behaviour were holding up.

    The findings from the survey, which was carried out for the BBC, highlight growing worries over social breakdown and rising levels of crime. The poll was carried out for The Big Questions, a new religious programme on BBC One.

    Most of those questioned thought the retreat of religious belief was a factor in moral decline. Nearly two thirds, 62 per cent, said religion was an important factor in guiding the morals of the nation. The proportion who considered religion important was higher among the young than the middle aged.

    This week Church of England leaders expressed alarm over the moral direction of the Government, complaining that proposed equality laws will suppress religious belief and stop Christians from expressing their views.


    8th September 2007

    Daily Mail. Uk

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Interesting that younger people consider religion more important than the older generation ...
    What do you make of that?
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Any social science 101 student will tell you that four out of five people will always say they believe that, in whatever year you ask the question. Just as they are always convinced crime levels are rising whether they actually are or not.

    The past is always a 'golden age' and the present is always going downhill.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Meh. Ever since Plato people have been saying the same thing, over and over again.

    But no one wants to learn their history - hence the press is able to whip up "moral decline" hysteria every few years or so.

    Pish posh.
    Britain is in 'moral decline'

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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    moral decline eh?are extra-marital relations on the rise or what?crimes are definitely on the rise in UK from what I am reading from the Guardian and BBC.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    They cant be as bad as they used to be ruling the world and stealing their riches.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    They are still doing the same by attacking other countries. Personalities change but policies don't
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    Any social science 101 student will tell you that four out of five people will always say they believe that, in whatever year you ask the question. Just as they are always convinced crime levels are rising whether they actually are or not.

    The past is always a 'golden age' and the present is always going downhill.
    and i assume you take that in and understand that civilisation has indeed been going through a constant decline of morals and values and it is not just speculation !
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Lush View Post

    But no one wants to learn their history - hence the press is able to whip up "moral decline" hysteria every few years or so.

    Pish posh.
    why call it hysteria? If anythng it is not hysterical enough because nothing is being done about this moral decline, i cant even take my own nephews nad nieces out without covering their eyes, At school at the tender age of 8 they are exposed to crude and abhorent words. People are stuck up, they think they are so clever and "understand" yet they are blind to the fact that their intelligence is helping nothing, society is drowning in shameless deeds
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    and i assume you take that in and understand that civilisation has indeed been going through a constant decline of morals and values and it is not just speculation !
    its one of the signs, is it not?
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahsan28 View Post
    Four in five people believe Britain is in 'moral decline'
    That title is wrong, it should be:

    format_quote Originally Posted by ahsan28 View Post
    Four in five people know Britain is in 'moral decline'
    ^ That's more in accordance with people like me who live here and see it all!
    Britain is in 'moral decline'

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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Greetings,

    Good old Daily Mail, whipping up the nation into a frenzy. The Mail reports a decline in moral standards every day of the week, and has done so for decades - this isn't anything new.

    Anyone who hasn't seen this hysterical right-wing rag might want to check it out for a laugh. You'll notice it's high on celebrity gossip and shrill, "panic! panic!" ranting, but really rather low on anything you could call 'news'.

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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Its not only Britain, but the whole Europe too.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,

    Good old Daily Mail, whipping up the nation into a frenzy. The Mail reports a decline in moral standards every day of the week, and has done so for decades - this isn't anything new.

    Anyone who hasn't seen this hysterical right-wing rag might want to check it out for a laugh. You'll notice it's high on celebrity gossip and shrill, "panic! panic!" ranting, but really rather low on anything you could call 'news'.

    Peace
    Whilst I am not disagreeing with your perception of the Daily Mail, I have to say in fairness that the poll was conducted by BBC One.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...uestions.shtml

    The TV programme 'The Big Question' will start tomorrow at 10 am.
    It may be worth watching (If you are not in church, that is ... tee hee! )

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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Its not only Britain, but the whole Europe too.
    True. But Britain is the worst of them all:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../uasbo5003.xml

    http://student.bmj.com/issues/02/07/news/223.php

    http://www.eubusiness.com/Social/uk-drugs.36/
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    The whole moral decilne in Europe began in late 60's. It is so called counter revolution, against traditional values, family values, religion, church etc. You know hippies, LSD, sex drugs and rock and roll, sexual revolution. All those things are like cancer for Europe and they will destroy this continent, unless the europeans change their attitudes.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    Meh. For those who have read Machievelli, you know this is BS. Even in his time he humourously pointed out that regardless of the era, people always whined that the generation(s) era was better.

    You see this all the time in any time period. Whining about how the soceity has become 'morally corrupt' while ignoring progresses made. Machievelli also points out that such thinking is dangerous as it allows foolish laws to be passed and idiots to be put in power in an effort to go back to the fictional 'golden age'. Whats funny is when said retarding of customs and progress happens, then people complain about it and glorify the age before.

    ie. Bush being elected because he had 'strong values'.

    Now if we are done living in laalaa land how about we focus on the nasty things of the "golden age" that no longer appear today?hmm?

    For example, the "moral ages" of britain had slavery, feudalism, monopolistic and cold techocratic capitalism, religious wars, lack of sanitation, rampant disease, rebellions and revolts, threat of invasion, kings and nobles kicking you in the pills for fun, lack of rights for all, poor literacy, poor nutrishion for the masses, racism galore. etc.

    So if by returning to the morality of ages past, you mean living with the constant fear of being killed painfully, enslaved, tortured or other such fun activities, then all power to you
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    The whole moral decilne in Europe began in late 60's. It is so called counter revolution, against traditional values, family values, religion, church etc. You know hippies, LSD, sex drugs and rock and roll, sexual revolution. All those things are like cancer for Europe and they will destroy this continent, unless the europeans change their attitudes.
    Yep, lets return Europe to the wonderful theocracies that they once were. They never fought any wars and were all about petting bunnies and kittens
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
    Yep, lets return Europe to the wonderful theocracies that they once were. They never fought any wars and were all about petting bunnies and kittens
    Did i say that i want theocracy? I just say that this moral relativism, atheism and decadence will destroy Europe. It is actually hapenning on our eyes. Just look where is Europe now, far far after USA, China, India. Who respects Europe now? Nobody i guess. And this process began in 60's.
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    Re: Britain is in 'moral decline'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Did i say that i want theocracy? I just say that this moral relativism, atheism and decadence will destroy Europe. It is actually hapenning on our eyes. Just look where is Europe now, far far after USA, China, India. Who respects Europe now? Nobody i guess. And this process began in 60's.
    So pre-60s europe was more moral eh? I guess World Wars, racism, not having equal rights for all makes a place happy and joyful.
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