100% proof that jesus is NOT god

[جوري]

your beliefs are bordering upon sacrilegious. I understand that christian need for anthropomorphism and theanthropism- but that to us is frank shirk. An unforgivable cardinal sin!
it is such a shame that christianity has so deviated from monotheism, but you are entitled to your beliefs, they don't make sense to the rest of us!

cheers

 

[john316]

Proverbs 1:28-30
28 “ Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
29 Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD,
30 They would have none of my counsel
And despised my every rebuke.

 

[جوري]

prove it.

God doesn't eat, he doesn't die, he doesn't poo, he doesn't D A M N trees in the world he created, he doesn't have personality disorder and pray to himself garden of gethsemane, he doesn't suckle, he doesn't have a mother, he doesn't have a helper to annunciate that he'll now become a zygote.

All God needs to do is tell something be and it shall be. HE DOESN'T HAVE HUMAN NEEDS, Frankly, I can't believe someone in this day and age would believe in that wonderful Greek myth of the divine Zeus copulating with the mortal Hera to have Hercules. except even that makes a little sense for they don't claim that they are all one in the same!

And all of this nonesense for what really? so you can sin and get away with it so long as you accept that your God died?
pls man.. get a dose of pragmatism!

cheers

 

[جوري]

Proverbs 1:28-30
28 “ Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
29 Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD,
30 They would have none of my counsel
And despised my every rebuke.

I really think you ought to consider yourself and fellow christians the subject of that proverb!

cheers

 

[john316]

Who are you to tell what God can or cannot do. If I can become a man, why can't God. Is it sin for God to become a man.

Well you have
Numbers 23:19
19 “God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent.
Has He said, and will He not do?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

If you read that in context. It says God's nature is not inclined to that of sinful man. Man can be tempted but God cannot. Jesus from God he became man. He was tempted because he was man. He didnt sin because he was God. Jesus was full man full God.

 

[جوري]

Who are you to tell what God can or cannot do. If I can become a man, why can't God. Is it sin for God to become a man.

Well you have
Numbers 23:19
19 “God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent.
Has He said, and will He not do?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

If you read that in context. It says God's nature is not inclined to that of sinful man. Man can be tempted but God cannot. Jesus from God he became man. He was tempted because he was man. He didnt sin because he was God.

you believe what you will of God on your own time and your own terms...
you are constantly contradicting yourself.

cheers

 

[john316]

1 Corinthians 1:27
27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

Gotta go to bed. In any case I would really like to thank you for bearing up with me. I joined another Islamic forum earlier and guess what they blocked me. I'm doing this not out of hatred. But out of love. You can curse me to a great extent but your salvation is what I am here for.

PS my parents are not saved yet. So if you get saved one day, you will not regret this moment.

God bless

 

[*Hana*]

1 Corinthians 1:27
27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

Gotta go to bed. In any case I would really like to thank you for bearing up with me. I joined another Islamic forum earlier and guess what they blocked me. I'm doing this not out of hatred. But out of love. You can curse me to a great extent but your salvation is what I am here for.

PS my parents are not saved yet. So if you get saved one day, you will not regret this moment.

God bless

Peace:

You would be hard pressed to find a Muslim that would accept the Christian idea of salvation. When your entire salvation is based on something totally illogical and something that can't be understood, it is our hope Allah, swt, will guide you to truth so you will not regret this life.

All you do is post verses and with all sincerity, it seems you are doing so blindly. You really don't understand what you're posting quite frankly. Maybe some day you will look objectively at your own faith and ask questions. I hope so...your salvation depends on it.

Peace,
Hana

 

[rahul_89]

salma bros sistas.....dz ne1 knw ne gd websites for downloading Ahmed Deedat vids??

 

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^^ Here..

http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread.jspa?messageID=91802

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

salma bros sistas.....dz ne1 knw ne gd websites for downloading Ahmed Deedat vids??

Try youtube, akh http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ahamd+deedat&search=Search
and here
also, can you please write in clearer English, i have trouble reading it :hiding:

 

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:salamext:

For with God nothing will be impossible.
-Luke 1:37

Yo refer to my post mate:

Let me give another example here (Zakir Naik's): Some Christians say to describe the trinity that water is still water, whether its water vapour in the gas form, water in the liquid form, or ice in the solid form. The formula remains the same. This is like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

However, the properties of H20 (Water) remains the same throughout all three processes. It does not 'change' the formula of the water. It remains H20.

If we put this into perspective, we can see that God, Human and 'bird' [excuse my lack of vocabulary] do not have the same properties, functions etc, when they are known to be as one.

 

[ummsara1108]

I thought this was a debate?

But it has obviously turned into a I hate you, your stupid, wish you were dead thread...

I have 100% proof that in all the different religions hatred or belittling another person is Bad/Harram where's the peace? I am directing this to everyone, not anyone particular.

Let's just all take a breath and start a better day..

 

[mohsen1985]

1 Corinthians 1:27
27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

Gotta go to bed. In any case I would really like to thank you for bearing up with me. I joined another Islamic forum earlier and guess what they blocked me. I'm doing this not out of hatred. But out of love. You can curse me to a great extent but your salvation is what I am here for.

PS my parents are not saved yet. So if you get saved one day, you will not regret this moment.

God bless

Saved? Salvation? What what? So you're saying the only way we get into heaven is if we accept Jesus into our hearts?

:blind:

Guess what, you can have no religion, follow no prophets' teaching, and still get into heaven. As long as you believen in God, and you're a good person, you're in!. It doesn't work like that if you already have a religion and just say goodbye to it, no. If you're a Muslim you must perform your duties as a muslim. But let's say someone who's born in the jungle, has no contact with the rest of the world, etc . . .


Here's a question for our Christian friends . . .

What's Jesus's real name?

I've asked this question from many of my "saved" Christian friends. It's funny how they have accepted him and been saved and they don't even know his name:'(

 

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:salamext:

^ Thread should be locked yeh? Until a mod sorts it out?

 

[YusufNoor]

Proverbs 1:28-30
28 “ Then [ Christians] they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They [ Christians] will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.

Because the have rejected the Lord God Almighty and replaced him with a pantheon of associates...

29 Because they [Christians] hated knowledge

Because they refused to accept the Seal of the Prophets, Mohammad ibn Abdullah ibn Abdul Muttaalib, Salla Allahu Alaihe Wa Salaam

And did not choose the fear of the LORD,

Instead, they pretend that Jesus/Isa ibn Marriam, Alaihe Salaam erased all laws and they no longer need to obey the Lord God Almighty

30 They [Christians] would have none of my counsel
And despised my every rebuke.

That's correct, they put their fingers in their ears and refused to hear the word of the Lord God Almighty in the Qur'an and Sunnah; preferring polytheism and pork...

But hey if it works for you...

 

[*Hana*]

:salamext:

^ Thread should be locked yeh? Until a mod sorts it out?

Not necessary to lock or close a thread because of a few bad posts...simply remove them or ignore them and continue with the discussion at hand.

Wasalam,
Hana

 

[Whatsthepoint]

your beliefs are bordering upon sacrilegious. I understand that christian need for anthropomorphism and theanthropism- but that to us is frank shirk.

All religions are antropomorphic, including Islam.
All Gods are basically humans with super powers, Christianity went one step further and made (a part of) their god an actual human...

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I've heard many times on these boards that God/Allah is above human logic, hat it cannot be fully understood etc etc.

The trinity and the trinitarian monotheism may be a good example...although I, as a former Christian, get the general idea and can imagine the concept... it does make sense, it just takes a bit of faith.

 

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:salamext:

The trinity and the trinitarian monotheism may be a good example...although I, as a former Christian, get the general idea and can imagine the concept... it does make sense, it just takes a bit of faith.

No it doesn't!! Think with a clear mind for heavens sake.

:salamext:

Let me give another example here (Zakir Naik's): Some Christians say to describe the trinity that water is still water, whether its water vapour in the gas form, water in the liquid form, or ice in the solid form. The formula remains the same. This is like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

However, the properties of H20 (Water) remains the same throughout all three processes. It does not 'change' the formula of the water. It remains H20.

If we put this into perspective, we can see that God, Human and 'bird' [excuse my lack of vocabulary] do not have the same properties, functions etc, when they are known to be as one.