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15 Year Old Child Soldier Held in Guantanamo
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You're not a Southern Democrat, you're a Libertarian.
Omar Khadr is Canadian; his story comes on Candaian television a lot becuase he is the only Canadian in Guantanamo Bay. he WAS 15 when he was taken to Guantanamo Bay, but that was in 2002. Curently he is 20 years old. In Guantanmo Bay he has been severy physically abused, he is blind from one eye, becuase of excessive beating and according to the CBC he has been used as a human mop to wipe urine and bysially he has been put through excrutiating pain. there is a limit even when it comes to punishing terrorists.
And yet the International Red Cross has inspected the place and never mention it? When did CDC reporters get access to Camp Xray?
I am sorry but..... LOL BUHAAHAHAHAMUAHHAHAHA
For some reason I just got a image of you grimacing at the monitor when you read my post and then typing that statement... LOL
OK for the serious stuff, I am just a realist, we are in a world where death is unavoidable, life is really just a transition, in the grand scheme we are only here a while and while I am here I would rather not worry about anyone (including 15 yr olds) tossing grenades my way. I know it sounds inhumane to you but I just dont care about people who choose to commit these acts, he took another mans life and so now his should be taken, until you can rehabilitate that other dead guy why should this young man get a chance? That mans family probably wishes him back everyday, the probably mourn him everyday and they deserve retribution. An eye for an eye, that is the law of God, not me your bible even says so.
But vengence is mine sayeth the Lord.
first of all, its CBC not CDC; (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) Canada's leading news network. here is the source where it talks abt Omar Khadr being used as a human mop:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/07/10/khadr10072006.html
"and why did the international red cross not mention it?" i fail to understand that my self; why dont you ask them why they dont talk abt Khadr's abuses in Guantanamo Bay
i know Amnesty International has said somethings
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Wow, we agree 11 out of 12. I just think prayer is a privet matter and wrong to make a non/different believer feel out of place. If it is public school then which religion/god/no-god should the school support?
Sorry it was a typo. You mean the AI that has never been to Gitmo?
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If he committed a crime and is found guilty of it, he should serve punishment. Certain countries have different opinions when it comes to age in criminals and this can actually influence the punishment as can the context of the crime - it really depends on how dogmatic the judge is.
This being said though, Gitmo is a punishment that no man or woman should ever have to endure. In fact, I don't think you can call it a punishment - torture is more accurate.
I just read the story. What are these declassified reports? Surely they can give the name of these reports. Maybe post a copy of them? Your lawyer will say anything to give you lenency. OJ lawyers said he didn't kill Nicole do you believe that too?
I prefer to hear from someone that don't have a dog in the fight. The Red Cross silence is good enough for me.
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Well, after lifting habeus corpus, I suppose locking kiddies* up isn't much of a stretch.
And before anyone gets heated - lighten up.
In British law, kids are treated as adults for the purposes of criminal law after the age of... 10, I think. I don't know what the USA's laws are in these matters. If this Guantanamo ruling is inconsistent with the internal laws of the USA... it's hypocritical, no?
Also, can we leave all this Republican Versus Democrat stuff where it belongs please? Namely on WWE Smackdown.
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And before anyone gets heated - lighten up.
In British law, kids are treated as adults for the purposes of criminal law after the age of... 10, I think. I don't know what the USA's laws are in these matters. If this Guantanamo ruling is inconsistent with the internal laws of the USA... it's hypocritical, no?
Also, can we leave all this Republican Versus Democrat stuff where it belongs please? Namely on WWE Smackdown.
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As you probably know, criminal law varies by State. California does indeed have a provision for trying minors "as adults". I believe the Prosecutor has to seek permission from the Judge to bring such a charge. It is generally reserved for heinous crimes or repeat felony offenders (like gang memebers). Other states have very similar systems. I am not sure that there is a similar provison under Federal crimes, but there may well be.
Just for clarification, the young toddler here is not being tried in Federal Court, he is being tried under a new law permitting a hearing for illegal combatants before a military judge using rules of evidence similar to the UCMJ.
In that sense, the tribunal is exactly consistent with US Law as the SCOTUS told the President he needed instruction from Congress....so the Congress gave it to him
et voila
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The question is- what crime did he commit? It only says he killed a US soldier. If the soldier didn't want to die, he should not have gone to war. It is a war. You either kill or be killed.
How many people did that soldier kill? I hope his killings aren't seen as less of a crime because he is the American! Those people he is killing would see him as much of a criminal and he would have seen them.
You expect the your enemy to just stand still and not fight back.
On the other hand, the boy was not just a child, he was 15 years old. That is old enough to understand. Of course, however, in different societies people mature at different rates... an Afghani fifteen years is not the same as an American one.
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The question is- what crime did he commit? It only says he killed a US soldier. If the soldier didn't want to die, he should not have gone to war. It is a war. You either kill or be killed.
How many people did that soldier kill? I hope his killings aren't seen as less of a crime because he is the American! Those people he is killing would see him as much of a criminal and he would have seen them.
You expect the your enemy to just stand still and not fight back.
On the other hand, the boy was not just a child, he was 15 years old. That is old enough to understand. Of course, however, in different societies people mature at different rates... an Afghani fifteen years is not the same as an American one.
Do you assume the soldier joined the services to "go to war"?
When you "Join" you just made your last "Choice".
That, and all other points are blurred.
indeed, and now being as good of a soldier as those who captured him he is a prisoner, really why should we even give him a trial, why not simply saw his head off with a dull knife?
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OMG I love the khadr family and he was 15 when arrested now he is like 24 i think.Mashallah what astrong boy he was when he killed that kafir in battle he was in jihad and 15 is ok he reached puberty.The prophet prohibited children who didn't pass puberty to go to jihad like in the battle of uhud Abdulla ibn Umar wanted to go but the prophet send him back him cause he was too young.But he allowed 2 15 year old boys go like samurah bin jundub and his friend go. One was a good archer the other was a good wrestler. then his father died in jihad to day.
May Allah protect him and his brothers, the other prisoners in Guantanomo.Ameen.
Man I really like their family.True muslims.
May Allah protect him and his brothers, the other prisoners in Guantanomo.Ameen.
Man I really like their family.True muslims.
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