one of Omar Khadr's brothers (the oldest) is in prison in canada facing extradition to the US, another one of his brohter (AbdurRahman, the second oldest, around 22) was in Guantanamo Bay then he did some stupid stuff and now he is trying to get into hollywood with his story called "son of al-Qaeda" and then comes Omar Khadr (20 or 21) and then is the last bro who was fighing with his dad in Afghanistan and his dad was killed. this brother somehow did not die but unfortunately he is on wheelchair for the rest of his life. he has spinal cord damage (i read in Macleans that he crawls around the house); he is probably about 18 or something. he came to canada for treatment to his body and he currently still lives in toronto with his mother and two sisters
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one of Omar Khadr's brothers (the oldest) is in prison in canada facing extradition to the US, another one of his brohter (AbdurRahman, the second oldest, around 22) was in Guantanamo Bay then he did some stupid stuff and now he is trying to get into hollywood with his story called "son of al-Qaeda" and then comes Omar Khadr (20 or 21) and then is the last bro who was fighing with his dad in Afghanistan and his dad was killed. this brother somehow did not die but unfortunately he is on wheelchair for the rest of his life. he has spinal cord damage (i read in Macleans that he crawls around the house); he is probably about 18 or something. he came to canada for treatment to his body and he currently still lives in toronto with his mother and two sisters
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Wow!! i fell so sorry for them.
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The question is- what crime did he commit? It only says he killed a US soldier. If the soldier didn't want to die, he should not have gone to war. It is a war. You either kill or be killed.
If he killed the us soldier out of combat i.e not in a warzone/battlefield, this would be a crime. If it was comitted in the US, it would be counted as treason. So if these conditions are true, he should serve his punishment - that is the law.
p.s; I condemn gitmo every chance I get.
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Me to, killers like them are sick.
WOW... kind of ironic isnt it, half his family is dead, another ran off to hollywood (which is chalk full of the Kuffar) one is held in a prison and one is confined to a wheel chair..... maybe there is a reason Allah is obviously not protecting this family.
Arent true muslims only supposed to engage in war when it is deemed necessary by one of the religious leaders? I dont think true Muslims are even fighting in these countries except maybe Palestine.
people have already died and ben tortured in US custody in bagram, abu ghraib etc. so it wouldnt surprise me
but when its US soldiers that are dying, its all so different
Different to who? Not to me it isnt, a loss of life is simply a loss of life, I just happen to root for a different team than you do, so where I cheer when a taliban or al qaeda operative is killed you may boo at it and vice versa.
Personally I wouldnt see any problem with sawing this mans head off, hey if the enemy likes to play that game why not right?
It seems you may be the one who thinks it is "all so different", when a Taliban or AQI fighter is captured and tortured you seem to have a problem with it, whereas when an innocent contractor (Nick Berg for ex.) is captured and beheaded you lay silent or you are quick to play the tit for tat game, does that somehow make one more right to you? When innocent Iraqis or Afghanis are captured, beaten, and executed and left for the buzzards you say nothing and never have anything but praise for their perpetrators, but the instant a bystander is killed in cross fire by a US troop you are all to quick to condemn.
Death is a part of war, so is torture, so is looting, so is raping and so is every other horrible thing imaginable. I condemn it when I see it happen because one would like to think we are more civilized but the fact is we are not and probably will forever lack the capacity to be... Sad.
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people have already died and ben tortured in US custody in bagram, abu ghraib etc. so it wouldnt surprise me
but when its US soldiers that are dying, its all so different
Dood..you seem to have missed a salient point. He wasn't a soldier. He wasn't protecting grandma's village and the lone family mule. He is Canadian! He was a trained (and presumably) willing member of a stateless international terror organization which had just destroyed 2 very big buildings and incinerated nearly 3,000 busboys, janitors, firefighters and stockbrokers whose only crime was living in New York. He traveled half way around the world to join the organization.
He took up a weapon and was captured while actively fighting. Those who captured him had two choices ...kill him or take him prisoner. That he is still alive has to at least make you wonder. Wouldn't simply putting a bullet in his head have been easier? After all, isn't that what the Russians would have done? How many Chechen prisoners are captured on the battlefield? How many US prisoners are in AQI's hands? What do you expect the US to do with him now?
i dont think you dhould attribute to me what you hav eheard from others firws of all - i dont agree with the killing of innocent iraqis or afghans or chechns so dont put words into my mouth
i agree with your last paragraph, you have conducted yourself in an uncivilised manner in this war and in almost every war you have fought - and so have the opposition in most current wars, afghanistan, iraq etc. (im not gonna add chechnya to this list since it is one of the governments in my opinion that have fought their war in the most humane way and closest to the way of the prophet (saw) - they should be the models for the afghan and iraqi resistance)
the US claims to believe in human rights so treat him as a prisoner - dont torture him, try him and then if possible convict him or release him
if the US actually lived up to its grand words like human rights, freedom and so on there would be a great deal less hatred for it
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Indeed...and that is exactly what is happening to him. There is no credible evidence of torture in his case.
No doubt that Abu Ghraib was a serious embarrassment but if you think that is the only grievance with the US then you have blinders on. This list goes on and on...Israel..US troops in the Middle East...Iraq...Afghanistan...support for Musharraf...support for Egypt....the House of Saud....Somalia...the Philippines...the Pope...Hollywood....Bush...Cheney....American oil companies.....24.....Nike shoes with alleged defamatory imprints on the sole....Jerry Fallwell....tidal waves in the Indian Ocean.....secret plots with the Polio vaccine....yada yada yada.
It seems that nothing short of a divine intervention and the cataclysmic destruction of 300,000,000 million people will make some people happy.
its not just about him - tho some prevoious posts suggest that he was beaten severly several times and lost an eye - inshallah the sister can confirm that with a source
at the risk of agrreing with osama bin laden, i think he summed up the muslim anger at the US quite well
it was US intervention/occupation in muslim lands
US support for Israel
US support form corrupt regimes in the Mid-East
US troops in the holy land
in my opinion all legitimate concerns
which one wilbur?
was it the one about the Chechen egoverment being a role model for how to conduct a conflict? i hope so
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Na, I don't support your child killers.which one wilbur?
was it the one about the Chechen egoverment being a role model for how to conduct a conflict? i hope so
Him and every one else.
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Chechen government?role model??????????????? YEAH RIGHT.i can't believe a chechen is saying this are you a chechen?
The mujaahideen of chechnya like Commander Khattab are true role models for chechens or Shamil Basyaev(RA)
The mujaahideen of chechnya like Commander Khattab are true role models for chechens or Shamil Basyaev(RA)
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Arent true muslims only supposed to engage in war when it is deemed necessary by one of the religious leaders? I dont think true Muslims are even fighting in these countries except maybe Palestine.---by MTAAFI
Um............NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um............NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
the mujahideen of chechnya are almost all from the chechen government - what exactly is your problem here? :hmm:
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I thought you were refering to the ones that work for the russian government. Sorry.
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