73 year old Austrian confesses to imprisoning daughter for 24 years

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this man has also fatherd his own grandchildren.. I am amused the regulars aren't fighting for their rights the way they do for sodomy?...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/cellar-girl-bore-seven-children/2008/04/28/1209234762072.html

Cellar girl bore seven children
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April 29, 2008


Daughter … Elisabeth Fritzl says she was abused from the age of 11.

AUTHORITIES in Austria are trying to piece together the details of how a 73-year-old man kept his daughter imprisoned in a windowless cellar for 24 years while he repeatedly raped her and fathered her seven children.

Police said Elisabeth Fritzl, 42, told them her father, Josef, had lured her to the basement of the block where the family lived in Amstetten, north-west Austria, on August 24, 1984, and allegedly drugged and handcuffed her before locking her in the dungeon. A police spokesman said she was "psychologically extremely disturbed" but her version of events was "completely believable".

She said she had been abused by her father from the age of 11 and that she had borne seven children by him, including twins, one of whom died in 1996 after just three days. The father allegedly removed the body from the cellar and burnt it.

Three of the children born in the basement - now 19, 18 and 5 - never left it, police said, and saw daylight for the first time only on Sunday.

Josef's wife, Rosemarie, had apparently been unaware of what happened to her daughter and is believed to have assumed she had disappeared voluntarily, after receiving letters saying they should not search for her.

Elisabeth was on the Interpol missing persons list. Police investigators later thought she might have joined a sect.

Josef is said to have told his wife and the authorities that Elisabeth had left the three other surviving babies on their doorstep at different times. Each delivery was accompanied by a letter purportedly signed by Elisabeth saying she could not support the child because she already had others to care for.

Joseph and Rosemarie adopted the three, who went to school as normal, seemingly unaware that their mother and three siblings were trapped.

The case is reminiscent of that of another Austrian girl, Natascha Kampusch, who was abducted, aged 10, on her way to school and locked in a windowless cell before dashing to freedom in August 2006.

Austrian papers yesterday asked how the local community could have been unaware of what was going on in the basement of the housing block. "The whole country must ask itself just what is really, fundamentally going wrong," the daily Der Standard wrote in an editorial.

After interrogation, Josef, an electrical engineering technician by training, told police how to enter the basement prison through a small hidden door, operated by a code only he knew.

The drama began to unravel last weekend when Elizabeth's daughter, Kerstin, 19, who lived in the cellar, was left at a hospital with a life-threatening illness. On Saturday night Elisabeth and Josef appeared together at the hospital.

They were taken to a police station, where he was arrested. Elizabeth agreed to speak to police only after being assured that she and her children would never again have contact with her father. DNA tests will be carried out in the next few days.

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Greetings,


1. What makes you think that this man's crimes are in any way comparable to sodomy between consenting adults?
I have drawn my comparisons on various forms of sexual deviations using the DSM on various threads of this forum addressing homosexuality. If interested in my views you may use the search option.
2. Are you suggesting that these grandchildren should have no rights?

Peace

Where have I suggested that?
 
what a disgusting pig, i read about this a couple days ago... On one hand I think he should be dismembered and possibly skinned, on the other I think he should simply be beheaded or gased or injected or hung, to remove his disgusting skin sack from this world swiftly

As for his daughter (aka object of torment) and their "children"... May Allah (swt) have mercy on them and help them through the rest of their lives :(
 
Yeah, awful story.
Weird how Austria had a similar thing a few years back, the kid was held 8 years.

Hope the kids will eb ok, but after such a long time its sadly unlikely they will ever have a normal life.
 
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I read a case like that last year which I can't find at the moment, except it was a brother and a sister, with incestuous offspring and their laywer simply said..'who are we to define a family unit?'-- I really do keep wondering where this world is heading?!...

Every day they push the envelope on degeneracy.. finding new laws to make depravity legal.. I wouldn't be surprised if tons more cases as such turn up until people coupulate like donkeys on the street if they don't already in some parts.. which by the way should mark as a sign of the end!

:w:
 
As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Naudhubillah! Such a horrendous story ever I've read about!!
 
Elisabeth Fritzl is pretty much my age.
If I think of the life experiences I have had since I was 18, I cannot begin to imagine what it must have been like to spend all that time in one place only, seeing only the faces of very few other human beings ... and suffering repeated abuse as well!

Can you imagine going through pregnancy, childbirth, child rearing, sickness, loneliness etc without any support from other people???
What a burden this poor woman must have carried! :cry:
 
On one hand I think he should be dismembered and possibly skinned, on the other I think he should simply be beheaded or gased or injected or hung, to remove his disgusting skin sack from this world swiftly
:(
What would that achieve?

Would it give back his daughter the life she has missed?
Would it give back his grandchildren their childhoods?
Would it bring healing to this traumatised family and the wider community?
Would it help him to feel remorse for his actions?
 
I read a case like that last year which I can't find at the moment, except it was a brother and a sister, with incestuous offspring and their laywer simply said..'who are we to define a family unit?'-- I really do keep wondering where this world is heading?!...

Every day they push the envelope on degeneracy.. finding new laws to make depravity legal.. I wouldn't be surprised if tons more cases as such turn up until people coupulate like donkeys on the street if they don't already in some parts.. which by the way should mark as a sign of the end!

:w:

It was and is illeagal, the gusy arrested, he will be punished. If they said they were going to let him go and good luck to him, I'd say you have a point in this case.

General western slackness in giving criminals more human rights than the victim. Yeah, i agree. Crime should be shown not to pay. You dont have to chop off hands or heads to do that though.
 
What would that achieve?

Would it give back his daughter the life she has missed?
Would it give back his grandchildren their childhoods?
Would it bring healing to this traumatised family and the wider community?
Would it help him to feel remorse for his actions?

No, but It would make vengeful people feel better and act as a detterent to others. It would also drag the world into a mad evil barbaric, (barbaric being wantonly cruel rather than a decendents of the barbary coast) intolerant and sick place.
I dont think this guy will be fed into a toaster. I dont think justice will prevail as it should.
I think hard labour, despite his age, is a fair sentance. Hard labour and solitary till he dies.
 
I just don't understand people like you.. A roof over his head and three square meals from tax payers money maybe even a psych. consult so he can get off easy with reason of insanity, whilst people die every year of starvation, homelessness, and disease or something as stupid as dehydration..

Next time you get sick.. pls ask for the weaker antibiotic, you know the one that renders you sicker longer preferably until others catch your disease and acquire resistance to the meds--
sheesh
 
I just don't understand people like you.. A roof over his head and three square meals from tax payers money maybe even a psych. consult so he can get off easy with reason of insanity, whilst people die every year of starvation, homelessness, and disease or something as stupid as dehydration..

Next time you get sick.. pls ask for the weaker antibiotic, you know the one that renders you sicker longer preferably until others catch your disease and acquire resistance to the meds--
sheesh


OK, I'll try that. Perhaps it will teach me not to ask for hardlabour for life for a 73 year old Kidnapper Rapist Incestuous scumbag.
I'll increase my monthly standing order to Oxfam as well to match yours.

Totally confubbled.
 
OK, I'll try that. Perhaps it will teach me not to ask for hardlabour for life for a 73 year old Kidnapper Rapist Incestuous scumbag.
I'll increase my monthly standing order to Oxfam as well to match yours.

Totally confubbled.

I don't think his age mattered much to his 'member' forgive the euphemism..
and I don't think anyone here can teach you anything.. you already know everything with a sprinkle of cinnamon and a cherry on top!

cheers
 
What would that achieve?

Justice!.. where indeed it might never conciliate any of your afore mentioned list.. one can take a solace in the fact that he isn't sharing a planet with other humans or causing harm to others!


cheers
 
two words: sad , sick+o(

I read that the children had difficulties adjusting to daylight, as they had never seen it before
 
now now kiddos lets not fight :D

i do sincerly hope he gets put to death, there is no point in makin him rot in jail, im sure the in-mates will try to kill him anyway lol, so jus put him to death, he deserves it anyway

and also the wifes role, i highly question that she didnt know, out of the 7, 3 he raised in his own, claimin someone left them outside the door, someone leaves a child at your door once, that would be a hugely unusual thing, but to happen 3 times psssssh!!!
 
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