Advice on File Conversions

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^ Oh my goodness.....thank you so much for all your time!

My cluelessness must have been apparent, for you to have outlined these steps in as much detail for me! Thank you!

Unfortunately, the bad news is that......Im still stuck:exhausted

Ive got to step 4 and have typed in: tvd-to-mp3.exe 51893

This is the reply:
'tvd-to-mp3.exe' is not recognised as internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

Ive followed all your steps perfectly....


Just out of interest......
- How did you find this thread and decide to help with my dilemma?

- Can you tell us a little more about how Dropcanvas actually works?


Really appreciate your help.
Thanks once again!
 
One more question:

If/ once Im able to open the TVD file, I'll need to transfer it to my Quran Pen - its an actual 'pen' that senses the letters in a quran, and reads it out aloud (with or without translation).

Would this be possible.....or will it only work on my laptop?
 
Don't worry, we'll make it work. It's just too slow if we aren't on instant messaging so that you don't wait hours for my reply as I'm not always close to my PC. The message you got means that the tvd-to-mp3.exe file is not present in the current console path. Try typing 'dir' command (followed by the Enter key) and see what files are listed there. You should see your tvd files as well as the tvd-to-mp3.exe file in the list. Please try to make sure that tvd-to-mp3.exe file is copied from the place where you had downloaded it from the Dropcanvas place.

As for your other questions (backwards), you can transfer the file to the pen if the pen supports the tvd format. Not all pens are the same and so only those that support the tvd format can use it. But if you have such pen you don't need to do anything with this stuff, you just download it from the Internet and copy it to the pen and it will work. Based on your question I guess you don't have such pen.

Dropcanvas is just a place on Internet which allows someone to share files with someone without having to send the file through the mail or upload to any other place. As this forum does not allow uploading files I had to find same way. I only learned about Dropcanvas first time when I was looking for the way to send the files to you. Dropcanvas will keep the files there for 60 days and then it will delete it (unless I register:D).

And finally, I found your question about listening to tvd files when I was looking for more information on tvd files which at that time were unknown to me. Decoding and extracting the audio from the file was part of the project where I had to create an application to replace the individual mp3 files inside the tvd file with different files so that the pen can be used not just for reading Quran but also for any other book. Once I was able to decode and extract the files I remembered that someone was asking about this and found your question again.

Please let me know your progress with running the application and don't give up. Once you do it you will see that the effort was worth for.
 
Hi Zaria,

I just tested the app on Win XP platform and found that you were right and that the application I made works only on Win 7 or higher. I'll make a new version of the tvd-to-mp3.exe for Win XP and let you know where to take it from. It will be probably done tonight.

Sorry for confusion, talk to you later.
 
Im really amazed.....and you only have 6 posts here!

I had thought that you were with the Dropcanvas team, and was promoting your product on the forum :P

With regards to my progress :exhausted, this is what it shows me when I type in dir:

854 51893_Mishary-bin-Rashid_05Jul12(1).tvd- Shortcut lnk

1029 tvd-to-mp3 - Shortcut lnk

2 files 1883 bytes

2 Dir(s) 181 839 388 672 bytes free


Btw. i do have the quran pen, and Im not planning on giving up, God willingly.

Tbh, I have not been using it in the last few months because I really, really like the voice of Sheikh Mishary Al Afasy (its just not the same without it).
Im really hoping that this works out eventually!

Im not sure how to really thank you for your time!

In Islam, when we would want to thank someone, we say: Masha'Allah - which means: It is as Allah (God) wills.
Its a means of expressing appreciation and praise for an event or person that is mentioned, while still serving as a reminder that whatever is made possible, it is only through the will of our Creator.

I do hope that we can be of benefit to you as well on this forum, God willingly.
Please let us know if there is anything on your mind.....

God bless
 
^Ive just seen your new post.

Thanks!

Apologies for all the trouble.
I really appreciate all your assistance!
 
Hi Zaria,

I've uploaded a new version of the application and you can download it from h t t p : / / d r o p c a n v a s . c o m / f r b h 8 / 1. I just changed the name to tvd-to-mp3xp.exe so that you don't confuse it with the previous version which you can delete from your PC because it is only for Windows 7.

I read the list of the dir command in your working folder and it's not good. The problem is that you have shortcut links to the files instead the actual files in the directory. Your listing shows

854 51893_Mishary-bin-Rashid_05Jul12(1).tvd- Shortcut lnk

and the first number 854 is the length of the file which is only 854 bytes instead 236920913 bytes. The same problem is with the tvd-to-mp3.exe file (which you now need to replace with tvd-to-mp3xp.exe). It must not be the link but the actual file.

When you drag the file from one window to another, you have to hold Ctrl key before you release the file in the new location. That way you will not create a link but will copy the entire file. Another way to copy the entire file is to right click on the file in the original location, select 'Copy' and then right click in the new location and select 'Paste'.

So, with the new exe file everything remains the same, you just type the new name and then the initial 5 digits of the tvd file name and hit Enter. Please note that the extraction process can take quite a while on XP (on my PC it takes more than 2 minutes) so be patient.

Please let me know how it went. Good luck!
 
Hi bt84,

Alhamdulillah, the extraction process worked perfectly, having followed your instructions above

I have copied the files onto the pen.

However, the pen still does not 'read' Sh Mishary - when I place it over his name (on the quran voice option card).
I also cant access the file when scrolling the menu on the pen itself.

The files do open on my laptop though.....

Im not sure if you are familiar with these quran pens?
Any advise from here?

imsad I really hope that this works out, in shaa Allah.


Many thanks for all your assistance.
 
Hi Zaria,

Glad to hear that it finally worked out. You said you hoped I'd have some benefit on the forum too, so I can already confirm this. I'm beginning to learn Arabic, word by word, phrase by phrase. Some of phrases are actually the same in my language, like Masha'Allah which we write mašala and it has the same meaning...

It seems there was a misunderstanding about what you actually wanted to achieve. Based on your opening post and the question how to open TVD files I was under impression you wanted to listen to the TVD file on the PC and indeed no audio player can do that because the TVD file in not a simple audio file but a sort of a container for thousand of small mp3 files. Now I realize you wanted to transfer an additional TVD file to your pen reader and use it with the Quran book.

The problem is that your pen supports only the format of the audio files which came with the pen. This is because there are numerous pen manufacturers around and almost each of them have their own file format (probably because of the copyrighting-licensing issues). I know at least three extensions - tvd, bnl and qrs. The pen will not even show on its menu any other downloaded file. Do you know which extension is for your pen (or tell me at least the pen brand name or manufacturer)?

However, if you have any standard mp3 player you can download the extracted mp3 files to it and listen to Quran reading on your own. You can place files into sections that correspond to individual suras and even record some explanatory voice (like 'beggining of "The Food" sura', 'end of "The Food" sura'). I understand that the pen gives you additional advantages but as said earlier you may not be able to listen to any format other than the one that the pen came with.

Will wait for your reply...
 
Greetings bt84,

This is sad news.
I was really hoping for this to work out......
In shaa Allah, it will.

When I had purchased the pen, I was told that I could get any additional downloads off the internet.
Unfortunately, the sellers themselves cant help me with regards this....
The pen also says that any additional reciters, as well as the english translation to the hadith and commentary (it is in arabic at the moment, of which my understanding is limited), can be obtained from the net......so I trusted that this would be easily available to us imsad

The product is called: 'The Quran Pen', Model: M9
It has the following website on the box: http://www.alqalamreadpen.com/ - but it does not have any downloads on it.

Heres a pic that I found on-line:

quran-read-pen-m9.jpg

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The pen has a 4Gig memory, which is already in use, and it allows for the insertion of a micro-sd card for further uploads.



bt84 said:
You said you hoped I'd have some benefit on the forum too, so I can already confirm this. I'm beginning to learn Arabic, word by word, phrase by phrase. Some of phrases are actually the same in my language, like Masha'Allah which we write mašala and it has the same meaning...
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Alhamdulillah, I am happy to hear this.

Heres a new word: 'Alhamdulillah' - it means: 'All praise belongs to Allah (God)'

When it is mentioned, it means that whatever has happened - it was only possible through the decree and mercy of God.
If a muslim is asked - 'How are you today?' - he/ she will say: 'Alhamdulillah'.....Even if that person is going through some difficulty....still he is recognising that it is only by the permission of Allah, and that Allah only wants good for His creation.
So, we are praising our Creator for all that occurs in our lives - from the small, seemingly insignificant moments to the life-changing ones as well.


I hope you would be able to assist me further with this, in shaa Allah (If Allah wills).
You've been a great help so far!

God Bless
 
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The link you provided does not seem to be link of the manufacturer but rather of some re-seller. I couldn't even find an offer for the pens, they just provide some sponsored links. Isn't there some other information on the pen? There should be something like product ID and the manufacturer name. Without it I can't really see what format is used.

So, it seems you only got the pen with preloaded audio and nothing more - too bad. But while working with this I realized that there is a huge competition of pen sellers around and they really sell all kinds of suspicious stuff, many of them probably just cheap copies of the original.

Thanks for the new word, I already saw it on the forum. I'll have to go now, talk to you later.
 
bt84 said:
The link you provided does not seem to be link of the manufacturer but rather of some re-seller. I couldn't even find an offer for the pens, they just provide some sponsored links. Isn't there some other information on the pen? There should be something like product ID and the manufacturer name. Without it I can't really see what format is used.

So, it seems you only got the pen with preloaded audio and nothing more - too bad. But while working with this I realized that there is a huge competition of pen sellers around and they really sell all kinds of suspicious stuff, many of them probably just cheap copies of the original.

Thanks for the new word, I already saw it on the forum. I'll have to go now, talk to you later.
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You are right - there are many such types of quran pens on the market (in fact, I had actually returned my previous one, which had Mishary on it - because it did not provide the ability to download updates from the net. Now I wish I had just stayed with that one!)

This particular product does not have any other info, exp for the serial number (I doubt this would be of any use). Theres no manufacturer name or any other form of ID.

I guess reality is setting in - it looks like Ive been duped! imsad

I really thought this would work - because they provide a cable to connect to the laptop, place for a micro-sd card for memory, etc. Allahu alim (Allah knows best)

Its too late for me to return it, and I would also feel bad to do so - because the guys who sold it to me are Egyptian foreigners in my country, who are just trying to make ends meet.....I dont think they are aware of these problems. I trust that they were sincere in their sale.

Oh well imsad......theres a lesson to be learnt in everything.....
And it could have been worse.....

Also, the way I see it - something good has come off this after all!: We have a new and very knowledgeable member on our forum, and I hope that you will spend more time here, reading through our many interesting threads.

Please do not hesitate to ask us, on anything that may be on your mind.
I would sincerely like the opportunity to return the generosity that you have shown.

Thank you once again, for all your time and effort.
Nowadays, its not common to find someone who is willing to help another out, without the expectation of anything in return - but simply for the sake of assisting another person in need.

This is something that we are taught from very young - that when we do anything in life, we do it solely for gaining the pleasure of our Creator, and not with the expectation of gaining something from His creation. If they show gratitude, then this is ok. But if they dont (as is often the case in life) - then, we still will not be dissappointed, for we know that our actions where motivated by a higher purpose.

So, great stuff! :thumbs_up
 
Hi Zaria,

When you connect the pen with the USB cable to the PC what do you see? Is it a list of files that are in the pen? Do you see their names and extensions? Can you transfer the files from the pen back to the PC? If this is possible we could find out which type of files the pen is using. Please let me know if you ca find out anything about this.

I'm glad too that I met new people on this forum. I once had a very, very good friend from Egypt whom I met and befriended while being on a student practice in Norway, quite a while ago. However, due to my failure to maintain the friendship with him our communication stopped soon after we got back home. This is the thing I much regret but people learn from their mistakes (even better from other people's mistakes:).

I'll check the recitations you suggested and I'm now planning to transfer the translated Quran readings to my flash and play it to learn more about it. However, I was not brought up as a religious man and I look at this whole matter from a different prospective.
 
Hi bt84,

bt84 said:
Hi Zaria,

When you connect the pen with the USB cable to the PC what do you see? Is it a list of files that are in the pen? Do you see their names and extensions? Can you transfer the files from the pen back to the PC? If this is possible we could find out which type of files the pen is using. Please let me know if you ca find out anything about this.
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The pen has 2 folders - one is an audio with mp3 files, and the other contains 'DPR' files.
It does allow me to transfer the files onto my laptop.

Im not sure if this is of any help for you? Let me know if there is any other information that I can provide you with.


bt84 said:
I'll check the recitations you suggested and I'm now planning to transfer the translated Quran readings to my flash and play it to learn more about it. However, I was not brought up as a religious man and I look at this whole matter from a different prospective.
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Alhamdulillah, I am pleased to hear this.

You know, its amazing how God has given each one of us a different life's course to follow.
From the moment that we are born - every minute that passes is unique to each one of us.

So, for some, God has placed them into very religious and spiritually inclined homes.
For others, they may have been raised without any concept of religion whatsoever.

Yet - no matter where you started off in life.....we all have a common ending: Death is a guarantee upon each and every one of us......and we are all destined to return to the One who created us.

I think that the point of life is to come into awareness of our Creator, to acknowledge Him and give thanks to Him - for our very existence and sustenance is due only to Him.

Some people may have reached this acknowledgement merely from the fact that they were brought up in an enviroment that was already focussed in this direction.
This is a blessing in itself.
For others, who may not have had this - they are given opportunities in their life, that constantly directs them to their Creator.

Our challenge in life is to recognise these signs around us....
If you think about it, no matter in which direction that you look, there are signs of our Creator - a simple leaf (that can never be recreated, no matter how many scientists put their heads together), the birds that are held up in the air, the alternation of night and day, the amazing human body.....and soo much more.

This life is just a test - nothing more.

A test to distinguish those who acknowledge the One who has given them life; His messengers (from the time of Adam, to the final messenger - Muhammed (peace and blessings be upon them all), His books (the final being the Quraan - a guidance for all of mankind), and who realise that this fleeting life will be culminated by a Day on which we will all be brought back, to take account of all that has passed before us.

I do hope that you will oneday appreciate life through these eyes, in shaa Allah.

I say in complete sincerity, with nothing to gain - that once our hearts are opened to our true purpose, it gives life a completely new and beautiful meaning!

I hope you enjoy listening to the recitations.
I will post more of such videos in the above mentioned thread, in shaa Allah.

God bless
 
Hi Zaria,

There is one last thing we can try with your pen. It seems it works with DPR files and in the DPR directory there should be some files with .dpr extension, like 32985minshavy.dpr or similar. What you can do is to upload one of those files to your laptop, then open the dropcanvas.com site (again that one :)) and then drag the .dpr file from your pc to the site (the site allows drag & drop files). Once you do that the pc will transfer the file to the site (it can take twenty minutes or so, depending on the internet speed - I hope you can wait that long).

Once the upload is complete right click onto the file and select "copy link location". Then you send me the link (right click in the message window and select 'paste') and I will download the file here and check its format. If it is similar to TVD I might be able to convert Sh Mishary's TVD file to DPR format and you will be able to download it to the pen and listen to it. I can't promise that I'll be successful but I'll try.
 
Hi bt84,

I have uploaded the smallest file that is on the pen (the others were taking ~4 hours to upload).

I hope this would be of help in shaa Allah.

This is the link location:

http://dropcanvas.com/wz49s/2

Im praying this works!

Thanks!
 
I found someone who sells these. I'll try to get more info for you
 
:jz: brother,

From personal experience, Ive found that the sellers dont really know about the complexities of trying to download additional files to the pen.

In shaa Allah, your friend may be able to help us more.


:wasalamex
 
I don't personally know them. I just found several vendors online who are selling these so I asked if there is a way to download the file from them. A lot of the pens say they come with Afasy as one of the reciters (I believe that's who you want right?). Its weird why yours doesn't have it.
 

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