Afghanistan war is just beginning: report

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ahsan28 said:
You forgot to mention the country, which attacked Afghanistan in 70s, in order to reach warm waters, but had to retreat due to US intervention through Pakistan. Don't you consider their indirect role, in order to take revenge :D

Again you didn't mention the country, which ranks at the top amongst axis of evil, as considered by the US and their prime interest is to see their enemy bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you think they are sleeping :D

Pakistan internal crisis are linked more to another country, which is not ready to give Kashmiris, the right of self-determination and considers Pakistan, responsible for the insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir. Don't you think, they have appropriate time to settle the scores :muddlehea
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Russia's happier with a non-radical Afghanistan.

Iran is a mix of things and is open to moderation and A is out due to his horrible economic policies.

Umm...Do you mean India is fomenting the Taliban & militant attacks in Pakistan?

You don't have to really answer that last one. Let's revisit this conversation in a year. It'll be interesting to see where we are.

Adios.
 
snakelegs said:
and time is on their side.
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exactly, they will put their whole family on the line - the generation after them- and after them. They really will fight for a hundred years because they have strong belief they will go to paradise fighting the enemy. So they don't care how long it takes because they believe their getting something better out of it
 
The British have made matters worse, says Afghan President

From The Times
January 25, 2008


Britain and Afghanistan fell out in spectacular fashion yesterday after President Karzai accused his British allies of bungling the military operation in Helmand and setting back prospects for the area by 18 months.

Mr Karzai, Britain’s key ally in Afghanistan, had little praise for the efforts of the 7,800 British troops deployed in his country. Most are in the restless southern Helmand province, where Britain has invested billions of pounds in trying to defeat the Taleban

Mr Karzai said that they had failed in the task :D

Asked if he was blaming British failure for the return of the Taleban, he added: “I just described the situation of mistakes we made :-[


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3248318.ece
 
ahsan28 said:
The British have made matters worse, says Afghan President

From The Times
January 25, 2008


Britain and Afghanistan fell out in spectacular fashion yesterday after President Karzai accused his British allies of bungling the military operation in Helmand and setting back prospects for the area by 18 months.

Mr Karzai, Britain’s key ally in Afghanistan, had little praise for the efforts of the 7,800 British troops deployed in his country. Most are in the restless southern Helmand province, where Britain has invested billions of pounds in trying to defeat the Taleban

Mr Karzai said that they had failed in the task :D

Asked if he was blaming British failure for the return of the Taleban, he added: “I just described the situation of mistakes we made :-[


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3248318.ece
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Ashan;

This all seems like a sporting event to you. Do you realize pople are being killed on both sides (most of the "civies" by the Taliban)?

What is so funny about it?
 
Who attacked Afghanistan?

Strange, when the tables are being turned and when the cracks within coalition of the unwilling are visible, we are concerned about casualties on both sides?
 
Of course, much of the increased hostility has to do with NATO deployments in Southern Afghanistan.

Nevertheless, it is clear the Taliban are increasingly active.
 
ahsan28 said:
So?
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So? That means if the Taliban had hopes of toppling the new government, they are running out of time. The stronger the Afghan national army gets, the more impossible that task is going to be.
 
ahsan28 said:
So?
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Well, that same Taliban didn't even manage to control Afghanistan before there was a functioning government and foreign powers training, arming and financing their opponents.

What makes people think they will manage now? I think in the end the Taliban will end up controlling parts of Southern Afghanistan, yes, but not much more. Their popularity among especially non-Pashtuns leaves much to be desired, opinion polls show that much.
 
Keltoi said:
So? That means if the Taliban had hopes of toppling the new government, they are running out of time. The stronger the Afghan national army gets, the more impossible that task is going to be.
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Ohhhh, I never anticipated. My fault :embarrass
 
Ashan;

If you are dreaming of a return of the glory days of the beard police and the music police and the video police and the blowing up of those pesky Budhists statues and the public sawing off of hands and the shooting of women in the back of the head with an assault rifle in the soccer stadium in Kabul.....if that kind of stuff arouses you...then you are going to be a disppointed guy.
 
KAding said:
Is it? A few years ago there hardly was an Afghan National Army for example. Only 3,000 in 2004 compared to nearly 60,000 now.
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these people (talking here about the people, not the talibaan specifically) have seen and thrown out many invaders. they don't care how long it takes - even if it is not until a future generation. they will not give up.
they can inflict great damage with few men and cheap weapons. they are patient and completely convinced of their cause and used to hardship. also remember, it is their land and no one knows it like they do.
 
Doesn't anyone remember reading about The Vietnam War. We outgunned them, outnumbered them, and we still lost. Why, because of their shear will to their cause.
 
snakelegs said:
these people (talking here about the people, not the talibaan specifically) have seen and thrown out many invaders. they don't care how long it takes - even if it is not until a future generation. they will not give up.
they can inflict great damage with few men and cheap weapons. they are patient and completely convinced of their cause and used to hardship. also remember, it is their land and no one knows it like they do.
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That might make sense snakelegs, if the Taliban were actually made up of native Afghans. I'm sure some of them are, but many are not.
 
JeffX said:
Doesn't anyone remember reading about The Vietnam War. We outgunned them, outnumbered them, and we still lost. Why, because of their shear will to their cause.
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...and a little thing called U.S. politics.
 
Keltoi said:
That might make sense snakelegs, if the Taliban were actually made up of native Afghans. I'm sure some of them are, but many are not.
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that is why i said the people - not the talibaan specifically. the people who will be there long after all the foreigners are gone.
 
JeffX said:
They would have won even if the whole country was right behind the troops. It was doomed from the get-go.
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Well, this is off topic anyway, we'll agree to disagree. In any event, the Vietcong were a different beast altogether.
 
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