After Saddam, Iraqi women are used as sex objects

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Knut Hamsun said:
Why wouldn't you present....? If you think you are right, then you should present your position. Right?
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Hello at first we try to explain nicley and what do you do?? you get sarcy and then when we get ticked off you call it rude!??

whatever mate if you dont like it dont dish it simple!

i tried to explain to you on many occasions all you have come out with is sarcastic questions and remarks to offend the suffering of many in the middle east...

you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??

i dont agree with what happend on 9/11 but i have tried on numreous occasions to explain that its not as simple as that obviously think why did 9/11 happen!!

what to spread islam in the west!?? please what a joke!

answer why 9/11 happened and you will answer why so many muslims are turning to violence today!

its called they have no otherpath to turn to...
 
i tried to explain to you on many occasions all you have come out with is sarcastic questions and remarks to offend the suffering of many in the middle east...
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Sorry if you think this is the case; and my intentions are not to "offend the suffering...", but to highlight the excessive blame that many muslims assign to "the west". I have never claimed that the west has clean hands; nor have I claimed that everything they have done was done in the name of justice. After all, nations act in their own interests to protect those interests. You have asked Malsidabym in another thread why the US/Israel both possess nukes and find it just to prevent "hostile" (note the quote marks) nations from attaining them. It is simply that is 100% contrary to their interests to allow it. Do you really think that the world would be safer if Iran has deployable nuclear weapons? I think you also asked why doesn't the US/Israel give up their nukes, on the condition that no one should have them. Please be honest; do you think that "hostile" countries would stay true to their word? And if they violated their word, the US or Israel would be in a lot of trouble, right? So there is your answer. Someone will always want to be in charge; if one country does not step up, another will.

you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??
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You are wrong, my friend.

i dont agree with what happend on 9/11 but i have tried on numreous occasions to explain that its not as simple as that obviously think why did 9/11 happen!!
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You are right, it is not so simple... And I have thought about why 9/11 happened, and I find NO excuse for such expressions of rage. This doesn't mean that I don't think some people are legitimately frustrated; it is the "system" of ideas/religion they use to express this violent rage that I detest and will never accept.

answer why 9/11 happened and you will answer why so many muslims are turning to violence today!
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I have answered this, as much as I think I can, for myself. I just do not find it to be either an excuse for such a style of violence nor a rational answer that "entitles" some muslims to blame everyone else but things within their systems, countries, and reach.

its called they have no otherpath to turn to...
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What about changing their countries? Economic boycotts? Economic expansion of their own? Acceptance of the realities and benefits of globalism (whether they like the west or not)? Armed struggle against their own leaders? All require more patience than the "swift revenge of terrorism", but will reap some actual rewards.

Cordially,
Knut
 
you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??
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How did you manage to pull the race card in this discussion? Race was not mentioned. Unless iraqis are thier own race. Or muslims are thier own race. Calling another member a racist is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
 
Rou said:
Is this your answer??

pathetic....

To mahdisoldier19 -

brother these are nothing but children god knows how much time isbeing wasted here to them it is but a game!

they have no real answers....

they have watched the news and are stirred up.
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This is sad really. The answer he gave was so silly it didn't warrant an aswer but I'll give one any way.

Ummmmmm Yes Because One Time in A Masjit that a friend of mine was attending OBL Spoke out against Saddam after this whole situation and deals with Saddam.
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I just posted where several meetings were set up between the 2. There's a saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Umm If you used Your logic Bin laden main goal is to disband any Western Influence in Muslim Nations.
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The main goal quoted by Osama is to get the US off of sacred ground. Who else in the region would help him do that?

So Umm Im not first of All Going to believe the Commission reports considering they also say when the buildings hit the towers the Fire was so extreme and yet you seen one of the hijackers passports on the ground i mean seriously whats going on here?
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Let's see your source for this. There must be a picture out there or is this an everybody in my neighborhood knows this type of scenario :rollseyes
 
Well if you did your homework which you never do because all you seem to do is post like you know something. Why dont you do alittle search around, where you there in NYC? No i was i remember it and i To This day Contacted the fire fighters , they themselves dont believe OBL did it.
 
Knut Hamsun said:
Sorry if you think this is the case; and my intentions are not to "offend the suffering...", but to highlight the excessive blame that many muslims assign to "the west". I have never claimed that the west has clean hands; nor have I claimed that everything they have done was done in the name of justice. After all, nations act in their own interests to protect those interests. You have asked Malsidabym in another thread why the US/Israel both possess nukes and find it just to prevent "hostile" (note the quote marks) nations from attaining them. It is simply that is 100% contrary to their interests to allow it. Do you really think that the world would be safer if Iran has deployable nuclear weapons? I think you also asked why doesn't the US/Israel give up their nukes, on the condition that no one should have them. Please be honest; do you think that "hostile" countries would stay true to their word? And if they violated their word, the US or Israel would be in a lot of trouble, right? So there is your answer. Someone will always want to be in charge; if one country does not step up, another will.



You are wrong, my friend.



You are right, it is not so simple... And I have thought about why 9/11 happened, and I find NO excuse for such expressions of rage. This doesn't mean that I don't think some people are legitimately frustrated; it is the "system" of ideas/religion they use to express this violent rage that I detest and will never accept.



I have answered this, as much as I think I can, for myself. I just do not find it to be either an excuse for such a style of violence nor a rational answer that "entitles" some muslims to blame everyone else but things within their systems, countries, and reach.



What about changing their countries? Economic boycotts? Economic expansion of their own? Acceptance of the realities and benefits of globalism (whether they like the west or not)? Armed struggle against their own leaders? All require more patience than the "swift revenge of terrorism", but will reap some actual rewards.

Cordially,
Knut
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So your a hypocrit?

so hostile countries like USA and israel are allowed them but no other hostile country is? is it?

define hostle! and you will find what the USA is doing may come into that realm! slightly! what is your lots points with your posts!?? they hold no eveidence nor disprove any one elses they are just mindless childish babble...
 
Malsidabym said:
How did you manage to pull the race card in this discussion? Race was not mentioned. Unless iraqis are thier own race. Or muslims are thier own race. Calling another member a racist is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
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After your childish out burst im not sure anything you say is worth while...

but for knuts answer to this... race as in americans if you wish to get tech about it than that is your decison....

i will rephrase then your people are the only ones that matter you care for no other humans...
 
mahdisoldier19 said:
Well if you did your homework which you never do because all you seem to do is post like you know something. Why dont you do alittle search around, where you there in NYC? No i was i remember it and i To This day Contacted the fire fighters , they themselves dont believe OBL did it.
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brother-in-law works down there as a market analyst on wall street. Nice try to though. Once again I post my source let's see yours.
 
Rou said:
After your childish out burst im not sure anything you say is worth while...

but for knuts answer to this... race as in americans if you wish to get tech about it than that is your decison....

i will rephrase then your people are the only ones that matter you care for no other humans...
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Americans is a culture not a race. Arab, African American, Indian, Italian, those are all races.
 
Brother in law works down there as a market analyst, Lol Thats your brother in law whats that have to do with anything? I work a few blocks down from the Twin towers. So does my uncle and so does the rest of my family and the few friends that i lost on that dreadful day. Oh btw my uncle Owns apartment buildings in the village of Manhattan. Oh btw i work in manhattan, not for wall street but for pizza street taxi. So your point is? Do you even know where wall street is? What does your brother in law have to do with this subject? Im asking you not your brother in law? Buddy I feel sorry for you
 
mahdisoldier19 said:
Brother in law works down there as a market analyst, Lol Thats your brother in law whats that have to do with anything? I work a few blocks down from the Twin towers. So does my uncle and so does the rest of my family and the few friends that i lost on that dreadful day. Oh btw my uncle Owns apartment buildings in the village of Manhattan. Oh btw i work in manhattan, not for wall street but for pizza street taxi. So your point is? Do you even know where wall street is? What does your brother in law have to do with this subject? Im asking you not your brother in law? Buddy I feel sorry for you
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That's fine show me where they found the passport of one of the hijakers. An article, a video, a photo. Anything.
 
Here you Go
230804visafound.htm


Thats 1

http://www.rense.com/general48/secondhijackerpass.htm

Thats 2

Photos ? No problem

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/passport.html

Thats 3

http://www.thedailycamera.com/news/terror/sept01/16atowr.html

Thats 4 you wnat more let me KNOR!
 
“Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

Allah swt. says.

"O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
 
Caliphate said:
“Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

Allah swt. says.

"O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
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Salaam

Allahu Akbar, I'm with you sis.
 
Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power.
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With what practical means are you going to begin to initiate the return of the "caliphate"? Any ideas?
 
Caliphate said:
“Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

Allah swt. says.

"O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
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Inshallah sister...

it will return...

Allahu Akbar!!
 

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