Agnostic mind

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Originally Posted by julie
whoever WANTS to know God, Insha Allah God will guide him/her.

come to think of it, if one believes this to be true (which i do also),
why is there any need to proselytize??? :giggling:

Personally I think that is necessary so that the individual who havent been a Muslim will be introduced to Islam and then it's left for the individual if he/she find it interesting or not. At least he/she has heard of what Islam is about so that they have no one to blame later.

God exists and God will not created all of these for nothing.
 
getting to know Allah...is such a wonderful feeling...
being nearer to Allah...is the best feeling ever...

Thats why in Islam...Salah is important...as it like 'dating' with someone you love. You will always miss him and wanted to be close with him. And for someone that done salah perfectly... he always wants to Salah...and wake up in the middle of the night...just to do salah.

Being close to him...you will feel safe and sound.
 
Why mentioning 'dating'? Are you influenced by my another post about 'dating'? Hehe.

Anyway which part in Malaysia are you from? How old are you? Nice to meet fellow Malaysia here.
 
Personally I think that is necessary so that the individual who havent been a Muslim will be introduced to Islam and then it's left for the individual if he/she find it interesting or not. At least he/she has heard of what Islam is about so that they have no one to blame later.

God exists and God will not created all of these for nothing.

ok, i accept that.
actually, later i realized that my comment was uncalled for, because i know very well that once a person reverts, he is immediately forgiven for whatever he's said and done in the past, and i would be too. i'm glad you gave me the chance to say this. (hehe because i'm vain and egotistical! :giggling: :giggling: :giggling: )
 
it seems that you have taken offense and i am very sorry. it was not my intention to offend anyone. the giggles were at myself - i was making fun of myself. sometimes i have a strange sense of humour. i would never deliberately make fun of someone else's religion.
 
Never mind. I also joined an apostate forum and they're far more offensive. u r not even near. good for u.
 
Wow. Snakelegs, Ansar, wilberhum, and others. I started this thread a week ago and then have been busy until now, thank you all for your input. Many interesting thoughts, thank you all. Of course in the fashion of my newfound realization of my own agnostic mind, after reading all of these contributions, I find that.....I don't know. I believe in God, and I don't know.
I would have to disagree with the doctor though when he suggests that agnostics are lazy and use the "I dunno" as an easy way out. This is first no different than claiming all muslims think the same way on any topic, we know it is not true. Second, my own experience has been a lifetime of searching for what God is all about, not a lazy easy way out, yet here I am after all this time, finally being honest with myself and saying "I just don't know". And you know what, it feels good to just say it.
I certainly have not come to this point from being lazy, and would have words for Dr. Brown if he projected this view on me.
 
getting to know Allah...is such a wonderful feeling...
being nearer to Allah...is the best feeling ever...

Thats why in Islam...Salah is important...as it like 'dating' with someone you love. You will always miss him and wanted to be close with him. And for someone that done salah perfectly... he always wants to Salah...and wake up in the middle of the night...just to do salah.

Being close to him...you will feel safe and sound.

"To know God, is to love God"
 
Greetings and peace be with you all,

I have just come across this thread for the first time, and looking back on my life I could probably have described myself as agnostic until about the age of fifty.

I believed there was a God, but I was never really inspired me to do anything about my beliefs.

The nagging thoughts that seemed to bother me the most, was if and only if God really existed totally and fully, then he has to be the most important thing in this universe.

If and only If God really exists then I have to do something.

The difference between belief and faith is doing something.

In the spirit of journeying together with people of all faiths

Eric
 
I used to be agnostic. My parents(my father is catholic and my mum is protestant) raised me without religion. During my teen years, I was an atheist. I believed that since I cannot see God, He must not exist. And the wars fought over the years over religion also led me to believe that God would not allow such a thing to happen, but since they did happen, there must be no God. As I got older, I started to think about how the Earth was born. Everything in the universe, including the universe itself, has a beginning, and a subsequent end. I began to wonder, how did the universe begin? It certainly didn't create itself. I also thought about how life began. We certainly didn't create ourselves, and never has anyone seen something come from nothing. This universe was obviously created, and it was obviously created by Someone who has a whole hell of a lot more power than any one of us. And finally, I started thinking....what if hell really exists? And what if I would have to go there for all eternity? Just because I didn't have definitive proof of it's existence didn't mean that it wasn't a possibility. This question sometimes made it hard for me to sleep. But basically at the time, I was smoking a lot of weed and didn't really delve further into the subject more than that, and it was later that I would learn about Islam, and while you could say I found Islam, but the truth is, Islam found me. Insha Allah I will post my story on how I became a Muslim in another thread.
 
Hi Gary
I would have to disagree with the doctor though when he suggests that agnostics are lazy and use the "I dunno" as an easy way out.
He didn't say they are 'lazy' he said they are 'disinterested'. When you start talking to an agnostic about scripture and religion, they seldom are interested in listening - though you're right that they aren't all the same.
yet here I am after all this time, finally being honest with myself and saying "I just don't know".
And what that really means is "I don't know [with 100% certainty]". Well it turns out that there is nothing one can know with 100% certainty, as I pointed out to snakelegs in my last post.

Peace.
 

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