al-Qaida in Iraq
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BTW, can you transfer all my posts that don't deal with Al Qaeda/Iraq directly, and create a new thread titled :"State-Sponsored Terrorism, & False Flag Operations?"
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Ninth_Scribe
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Your almighty word is not good enough. I have proved via the military audit that the U.S. did in fact supply this weapon (among others) to Iraq using IRRF funds. The DoD handled the weapons, distributed them and provided training for them. They don't have a problem admitting that, so you can deny, deny deny all you want... but unless you come up with physical proof that it was not US troops or personnel, but rather Iraqi security or terrorists... we have nothing more to say to each other.
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It is amazing that you still are trying to deny this, the documents you supplied show that the US supplied the AK 47 to iraqi security personel, these are Iraqis, not US troops or contractors. I dont have a problem admitting that the US has issued cheap out of date weapons to a country where we have no idea who is on our side. But the issue here is about the video posted to represent US troops using this weapon. The US does not use this weapon, it is simple as that, provide all the "evidence" you want about the us supplying iraqi police with them, that is fine and true. Contractors and US military servicemen dont use the weapon. i already told you the weapons our troops use, if you wish to dispute it then please have a great time, but at least provide proof. I am not going to do it because I know I am right, you are the one trying to prove otherwise, so then do it, prove me wrong.
Here is a great list of weapons used by servicemen in Iraq today, please not the Ak and AR are not listed, your turn or would you like to admit your error now?
http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csi/satoc.htm
Ninth_Scribe
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My point is the AK47s were not purchased on a terrorist black market and U.S. troops did have access to these weapons because they shipped, distributed and trained Iraqis to use said weapons so, for those reasons, I do not accept your assumption that the video was a fraud because Americans simply wouldn't be using said weapons. I am not convinced, especially considering the fact that American fraud in Iraq is well documented. That is my position.
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The Ninth Scribe
That is fine to be your position, and I can respect that, but American troops do not use this guns, which is what I thought our whole little tish tosh here was about. Yes the US sends this weapon to Iraqi security forces, we also gave a load of them to the Afghans when they were fighting Russia. Also keep in mind that Iran, the Saudis and Russia have widely distributed this weapon througout the middle east. Fact is, you can not prove 100% that these were not american soldiers in the video, but any reasonable person, when looking at the type of weapon used, the overlay of American music on the video, the type of vehicle that is being traveled in (just judging from the rear window), the fact that the people are not shown or heard as is typical of a video like this with americans, would say that it is more probable that these people are either terrorists or Iraqi security forces. My position is this is a terrorist group spreading propoganda and anti americanism through a video created by themselves.
