Alcohol Consumption: Pros & Cons

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It is.
Many things are addictive, coffee, cigarettes, coke... The difference between those and alchohol is that tehy don't bring any or significantly less benefits.

Most people drink wine after lunch or dinner, a very small percentage of alchohol consumers are drunks.

True, but the difference is alcohol changes the way you think.. A decent person could become a wild monster!(he might rape, steal, harm) while he is not even aware of it. The above mentioned does not get you in that state.
 
Drink alot of water, you'll be fine. Drink alot of coke, you'll be fine, but drink some alcohol and your nearing death, Its a poison!
 
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Drink alot of water, nothing will happend. Drink alot of coke, nothing will happend.
Drink alot of alcohol, you will die.
What do you call a lot? :skeleton:

Da, drink enough water it will kill you.
Drink enough Coke, it will kill you.
Drink enough alcohol, it will kill you.
Eat enough meat, it will kill you.

Heck, take enough fast breaths and it will kill you.

The list is endless.
 
But drink just enough alcohol and you turn into a madman, gods knows what you might do... because you certaintly have no clue what you might do(and not you personally)
 
But drink just enough alcohol and you turn into a madman, gods knows what you might do... because you certaintly have no clue what you might do(and not you personally)
Alcohol affects different people differently.
Some people get mean. Some get happy and some like me get totally mellow.
But I'm mostly after the stupid statements like

Drink alot of water, nothing will happend.
Drink alot of coke, nothing will happend.
Drink alot of alcohol, you will die.
 
Alcohol affects different people differently.
Some people get mean. Some get happy and some like me get totally mellow.
But I'm mostly after the stupid statements like

That is perfectly right:), but i wonder though, how many of these people who did something lets say very stupid, thought that if they had a drink that they would react perfectly fine to it! It turned out that they didnt get very happy. In every case though a person is not him self, let him be happy, ''totally mellow'', he does certian things which he normally wouldnt do.

I don't understand why most people would like to be in that position, you are not yourself! You might puke all over and act like a child who needs to be taken care of.
 
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What do you call a lot? :skeleton:

Da, drink enough water it will kill you.
Drink enough Coke, it will kill you.
Drink enough alcohol, it will kill you.
Eat enough meat, it will kill you.

Heck, take enough fast breaths and it will kill you.

The list is endless.

Drinking barrels of water wont kill you, drinking barrels of coke wont kill you, eating tons of meat wont kill you, you'll just have a hard time getting out of the bathroom.

Take alot of fast breaths you still dont die, its impossible to kill yourself through breathing.

But drink some poison and death wil run after you.
 
That is perfectly right:), but i wonder though, how many of these people who did something lets say very stupid, thought that if they had a drink that they would react perfectly fine to it! It turned out that they didnt get very happy. In every case though a person is not him self, let him be happy, ''totally mellow'', he does certian things which he normally wouldnt do.

I don't understand why most people would like to be in that position, you are not yourself! You might puke all over and act like a child who needs to be taken care of.
Every one is different and alcohol effects everyone differently, but few lose there self with only one. Quantity is a major factor that is not being addressed.

Lets not confuse the difference in the affect of a quart of beer and a quart of grain alcohol.

You can't lump it all together, if is far too complicated for that.
 
Every one is different and alcohol effects everyone differently, but few lose there self with only one. Quantity is a major factor that is not being addressed.

Lets not confuse the difference in the affect of a quart of beer and a quart of grain alcohol.

You can't lump it all together, if is far too complicated for that.

indeed it is! I just have to think about the poor guys who lets say agian commited something stupid, harming them or other around them, how did they start? I bet they started of with just one! If you had asked him then when he was taking that one innocent beer.(ask him will you ever jump of a building due alcohol? Would you ever do etc.....) i am most certain he would answer you with a OFCOURSE NOT!
 
i don't drink, but just want to point out that there are many people who drink all their lives who never become alcoholic, whereas some get addicted right away, others over a period of time.
it is not as highly or as quickly addictive as tobacco.
that said, i think it is a negative drug in a society, but, as has been mentioned, banning it did not help.
i would hate to have lost a loved one to a drunk driver.
i guess even worse, would be to be the person who got drunk and killed some one - i can't imagine what it would be like to live with that!
 
Let's not forget about the physical/mental abuse alcohol causes, cigarettes although harmful do not cause physical/mental abuse or driving impaired accidents.

Let's also not forget that alcohol/cigarettes only became legal for certain ages not that long ago. And yet our youth still is able to get there hands on it. Why? because it's all about the dollar bill (profit).

Why isn't majuanna legal? Although somewhat popular they are unable to contain it within the USA and oh of course as of yet they haven't been able to put a tax on it. But they will in due time just like alcohol and cigarettes.
 
i don't do any drugs, thank God.
but i must say that i find it strange that alcohol is legal and encouraged and marijuanna is not.
i have never heard of anyone smoking pot stabbing someone to death, running over a child, etc etc...
 
i don't drink, but just want to point out that there are many people who drink all their lives who never become alcoholic, whereas some get addicted right away, others over a period of time.
it is not as highly or as quickly addictive as tobacco.
that said, i think it is a negative drug in a society, but, as has been mentioned, banning it did not help.
i would hate to have lost a loved one to a drunk driver.
i guess even worse, would be to be the person who got drunk and killed some one - i can't imagine what it would be like to live with that!




IF YOU DRINK ALL YOUR LIFE, IT'S CALLED ACOHOLISM
(Beause people don't drink all of there lives for no good reason) and can't wait for the next day/drink.

Harming oneself is your choice but when involving anyone else is your fault.
 
I don't Drink or do Drugs, but I am a Smoker.

May god help me over come my addiction.
 
I also agree that smoking is a negative drug in society, but as long as someone gets a piece of the pie, it will be legal. Forget about the harm it does, let's just raise the tax....lol..what a hoot
 
I don't Drink or do Drugs, but I am a Smoker.

May god help me over come my addiction.

smoking is extremely addictive and extremely hard to quit!
but when you do, you will feel wonderful about yourself. best of luck to you. quit while you're young instead of waiting til you're 40 (like i did)
 
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It is.
Many things are addictive, coffee, cigarettes, coke... The difference between those and alchohol is that tehy don't bring any or significantly less benefits.

yes they do, you don't take the chance of killing someone else with a glass of coke or coffee or even a smoke, but alcohol is well known to cause accidents and physical/mental abuse unlike the others i've mentioned.
 
lol...i'm almost 40 now...lol and ty for the support, and congrats on over coming your addiction.
 
forgot my 2 cents

The moderate consumption of alchohol, especially red wine, is very beneficial.
The excessive consumption of any substance can be a major health risk.
I can't imagine friday night's without it.

PRO!

Oh, I guess you missed out the ayat in the Quran where Allah states it has some benefit, but is not worth it still due to the harms far outweighing the benefits:

(2:219. They ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit.'' And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: "That which is (spare) beyond your needs.'' Thus Allah makes clear to you His Laws in order that you may give thought.)

And the explanation and context of it from Tafsir Ibn Kathir:


The Gradual Prohibition of Khamr (Alchoholic Drink)
Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Maysarah said that `Umar once said, "O Allah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr!'' Allah sent down the Ayah of Surat Al-Baqarah:

﴿يَسْـَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ قُلْ فِيهِمَآ إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ﴾

(They ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "In them is a great sin...)

`Umar was then summoned and the Ayah was recited to him. Yet, he still said, "O Allah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr.'' Then, this Ayah that is in Surat An-Nisa' was revealed:

﴿يَـأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لاَ تَقْرَبُواْ الصَّلَوةَ وَأَنتُمْ سُكَـرَى﴾

(O you who believe! Approach not As-Salah (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state.) (4:43)

Then, when the prayer was called for, a person used to herald on behalf of Allah's Messenger , "No drunk person should attend the prayer.'' `Umar was summoned again and the Ayah was recited to him. Yet, he still said, "O Allah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr.'' Then, the Ayah that is in Surat Al-Ma'idah was revealed, `Umar was again summoned and the Ayah was recited to him. When he reached:

﴿فَهَلْ أَنْتُمْ مُّنتَهُونَ﴾

(So, will you not then abstain) (5:91) he said, "We did abstain, we did abstain.'' This is also the narration that Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasai collected in their books. `Ali bin Al-Madini and At-Tirmidhi said that the chain of narrators for this Hadith is sound and authentic. We will mention this Hadith again along with what Imam Ahmad collected by Abu Hurayrah Allah's saying in Surat Al-Ma'idah:

﴿إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالاٌّنصَابُ وَالاٌّزْلاَمُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَـنِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ﴾

(Intoxicants and gambling, and Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam are an abomination of Satan's handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.) (5:90)

Allah said:

﴿يَسْـَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ﴾

(They ask you (O Muhammad ) concerning alcoholic drinks and gambling.)

As for Al-Khamr, `Umar bin Khattab, the Leader of the faithful, used to say, "It includes all what intoxicates the mind.'' We will also mention this statement in the explanation of Surat Al-Ma'idah, along with the topic of gambling.

Allah said:

﴿قُلْ فِيهِمَآ إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَـفِعُ لِلنَّاسِ﴾

(Say: In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men.)

As for the harm that the Khamr and gambling cause, it effects the religion. As for their benefit, it is material, including benefit for the body, digesting the food, getting rid of the excrements, sharpening the mind, bringing about a joyous sensation and financially benefiting from their sale. Also, (their benefit includes) earnings through gambling that one uses to spend on his family and on himself. Yet, these benefits are outweighed by the clear harm that they cause which affects the mind and the religion. This is why Allah said:

﴿وَإِثْمُهُمَآ أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا﴾

(...but the sin of them is greater than their benefit.)

This Ayah was the beginning of the process of prohibiting Khamr, not explicity, but it only implied this meaning. So when this Ayah was recited to `Umar, he still said, "O Allah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr.'' Soon after, Allah sent down a clear prohibition of Khamr in Surat Al-Ma'idah:

﴿يَـأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالاٌّنصَابُ وَالاٌّزْلاَمُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَـنِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ - إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَـنُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْبَغْضَآءَ فِى الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَعَنِ الصَّلَوةِ فَهَلْ أَنْتُمْ مُّنتَهُونَ ﴾ (O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam are an abomination of Shaytan's handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Shaytan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from As-Salah (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain) (5:90, 91)

Peace out.
 
smoking is extremely addictive and extremely hard to quit!
but when you do, you will feel wonderful about yourself. best of luck to you. quit while you're young instead of waiting til you're 40 (like i did)
I didn't quit till I was 58. I had smoked for over 40 years.

G-D Da-n it was tough. That was 3 1/2 years ago and I'm still clean.
 

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