All eyes on Lebonon now... what about before?

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Zionazi_Dissent said:
Israelis kill civilians and call them terrorists at the same time. Humanity has taken its toll.
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If Hezbollah would just leave and stop commiting acts that only perpetuate the conflict than we could have a chance at peace.

Israel shows a lot more care when they fire then Hezbollah who killed a fellow Muslim girl!!!!!!!!!!!

What kind of sick animals are Hezbollah killing there very own! They should be ashamed and Allah will judge them harshly!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm sure there is plenty of sympathy for those who have died inside Lebanon. Israel also has sympathy for its own people who are constantly threatened by suicide attacks and missiles from Hezbollah. There is more than one story-line going on here.
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What is the use of expressing sympathy if they refuse to stop the bloodshed and disorder they've created in Lebanon?
 
What is the use of expressing sympathy if they refuse to stop the bloodshed and disorder they've created in Lebanon?
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The disorder was created when Hezbollah decided to attack Israeli troops.

Then they kill a fellow Muslim girl with a rocket attack!!! Allah have no mercy on Hezbollah and those who fire there rockets at there fellow Muslims and fellow people!
 
lavikor201 said:
This is an Arab-Lebonese person. Joseph Farah supports Lebonon controling this homeland, not the proxy for the terror regimes of Syria and Iran. And especially not a bunch of Jew haters.
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Thats a weak argument that hes arab lebonese does not mean he is right or he speaks in the best interest of the lebonese people

try again on that one
 
The disorder was created when Hezbollah decided to attack Israeli troops.
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The Israeli Jews broke UN resolutions literally thousands of times before Hezbollah even kidnapped the pathetic IDF scum. A prisoner exchange, which has be done several times before, could have solved the mess. Israel is to bleme for the unneccessary escalation.

Then they kill a fellow Muslim girl with a rocket attack!!! Allah have no mercy on Hezbollah and those who fire there rockets at there fellow Muslims and fellow people!
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1.) Nasrallah apologized for Muslim casualties.
2.) Katyusha rockets are badly inaccurate.
3.) Hezbollah killed more IDF soldiers than civilians.

Points 2 and 3 does not apply to Israel.
 
lavikor201 said:
I wonder why the Jews are hated so much?

After a terrorist attack if I said 'you wonder why muslims are hated so much' people would go nuts. But people will just shrug this off.

Tells us more about why the world hates the Jews. Tell us more about how you think it was a good thing that 6 Million Jews died and they were burnt and created into mountains of ash for being Jewish.

Please tell us more. Expose the your Anti-Semitic/Bigot personality for the whole world to see. You have already completly offended me with your post about Jews.

You still also negate the fact that this article was written by a reporter who is an Arab-Lebonese.
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What does this have to do with the holocaust

honestly its soo like the people of Isreal to go and hide behind what happend in the holocaust to justify their barbaric and disgusting actions

Did the Torah not tell you that you shall not opress others for you have been the opressed in the lands of egypt?

why dont you understand

why are you soo blind

As a matter of fact before Zionism came into the picture the the jews and the muslims have lived peacefully for hundreds of years under islamic protection perhaps you should catch up a little on history before the holocaust ( as hard as they may be for you )

Im not surprised at all that you resort to acusing somebody of Anti-semitism

You need to understand that what Isreal is doing right now in Lebanon is a CRIME that lebonese man needs to understand that pointing out other major issues in the world is not going to Justify the actions of Isreal

if they wanted to disarm hezbollah they could have done so with little casualties but nobody wants to believe that fact
instead everybody wants to say ohh poor isreal got attacked by the big bad hezbollah
COMPARE DEATH TOLLS !!!!
this is so disgusting
Terrorists are working everday and they are going undetected for you terroism is anybody with a beard or anybody who professes Islam thats how ignorant you are
Terrorism is What Isreal is doing right now as you are laying on your big comfortable bed in Haifa and watching the civillians of Lebanon ( including defensless children) get decapitated and Burned into a crisp by laser aimed Missles
who are the cowards who fire rockets from a safe distance only to laugh about it over tea in their comfortable homes
Who are the cowards who cry about Adolf hitlers holocaust and in the same breath do that and its length to innocent lebanese people (only adding a pathetic excuse to justify their actions)
Who are the cowards who allow their children to write discriminatory messeges on rockets which they than rain down on women and children (The Nazis Told the story how it is No need to lie and make up fairy tales so that others can approve)
You need to open up your eyes and understand that Isreal is a terrorist Nation
one thing i will give them credit for is giving a well planed exuse (hezboullah hides behind civillians) so as to save face what i can tell you is that you are a misguided soul and that the isrealis will see the rath of Allah the best of planners when the time comes
You can believe what you want to believe but I will tell you to do this to read your own torah because your accusations are pathetic but what more can one expect from you who is soo brain washed

does the torah not tell you that Isreal is not to become a state that the jews shall not build a state for it will cause political corruption

you argument about the author of this article is a weak one
he speaks for nobody but himself and therefor has no buisness talking about the best intrests of the Lebonese peoples

Matter of factly it is people like him that are the reason for Allah (SWT) to be displeased with the muslims his spineless words wanting "liberation" and "lebanon to be lebanon" are the very reason Allah (SWT) sent punishment to the muslims Tourment to the muslims and it will remain that way restassured until the muslims become one and until they decide to go back to the way of the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)

This is meant to be Allah ordained for the muslims to be attacked this way and victimized this way and Allah's Will can never be undone

May the creator of heavens and earth Guide you to the straight path of Islam and show you the truth

Ameen
 
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It needs to be understood that Hezbollah only controled a minority of the government of Lebanon


The facts need to be laid out before comments are made i wont name names im getting tired of this

May Allah ease the pain of the Lebanese victims of terrorism and May allah bring Us back to the true path and grant us victory over these Isreali/ AMerican tyrants
Ameen
 
Quruxbadaan, not trying to nick pick, but it is my understanding that only a minority of the Lebanon government had/has any control over Hezbollah.

Thanks
Nimrod
 
okay thank you Nimrod for the pointer

i was reading an article recently that mentioned the amount of seats hezbollah holds over the government of Lebanon perhaps i have misread in anycase thank you for that pointer

I will look for that article and post it for you to read...
 
Quruxbadaan, you are most kind in your reply, Thanks, it is refreshing.

However I am not so sure you didn’t misunderstand my prior post.

My point was that Hezbollah not being control by the Lebanon’s duly elected government is the problem.

You seemed to indicate, from reading your posts, that you saw the main problem as Hezbollah’s lack of control over the government, as opposed to the lack of the governments ability to control Hezbollah.

Sorry if I miss-read your posts.

Thanks
Nimrod
 
Quruxbadaan said:
honestly its soo like the people of Isreal to go and hide behind what happend in the holocaust to justify their barbaric and disgusting actions
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The people of Israel? Nice racial slur, good one. All Israelis are barbarians that use past issues to justify their brutal actions.

Quruxbadaan said:
As a matter of fact before Zionism came into the picture the the jews and the muslims have lived peacefully for hundreds of years under islamic protection perhaps you should catch up a little on history before the holocaust ( as hard as they may be for you )
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History also records that in 1929 things got pretty nasty for the jews, as there were arab riots and they killed jews and forced them out. perhaps you should read a little more history (as hard as that ma....)

Quruxbadaan said:
Im not surprised at all that you resort to acusing somebody of Anti-semitism
Ameen
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This is not at all different from people like yourself claiming that everyone else is anti-muslim. It is a little annoying to deal with, no?

Quruxbadaan said:
if they wanted to disarm hezbollah they could have done so with little casualties but nobody wants to believe that fact
instead everybody wants to say ohh poor isreal got attacked by the big bad hezbollah
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Unlikely. Hezbollah is well armed. Disarming them no matter how it is done would not be easy, large numbers of casualties should be expected.

Quruxbadaan said:
COMPARE DEATH TOLLS !!!!
this is so disgusting
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Comparing death tolls is irrelavent. The israeli army has superior training, equipment, and weapons. Why would they not use the advantage? It would be illogical to fight at a reduced capacity to fight "fair". Of course the death tolls are different.
Hezbollah is not innocent of killing. If they had the weapons that the IDF had, the civilian deaths would be very high in Israel as well.
Hezbollah is shooting rockets into Israel. They don't care where they land, as long as they kill. Soldiers, children, elderly..... whatever.
 
MRR said:
The people of Israel? Nice racial slur, good one. All Israelis are barbarians that use past issues to justify their brutal actions.


History also records that in 1929 things got pretty nasty for the jews, as there were arab riots and they killed jews and forced them out. perhaps you should read a little more history (as hard as that ma....)



This is not at all different from people like yourself claiming that everyone else is anti-muslim. It is a little annoying to deal with, no?


Unlikely. Hezbollah is well armed. Disarming them no matter how it is done would not be easy, large numbers of casualties should be expected.


Comparing death tolls is irrelavent. The israeli army has superior training, equipment, and weapons. Why would they not use the advantage? It would be illogical to fight at a reduced capacity to fight "fair". Of course the death tolls are different.
Hezbollah is not innocent of killing. If they had the weapons that the IDF had, the civilian deaths would be very high in Israel as well.
Hezbollah is shooting rockets into Israel. They don't care where they land, as long as they kill. Soldiers, children, elderly..... whatever.
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Listen my answer to you is gonna be very simple because i have very little time to argue with you

the bottom line is exxesive force is being used without proper reason
innocent lives are being taken and its being blamed on hezbollah

the fact of the matter is that according to Isreal the violent murder of hundreds of children is justifyable bby the kidnapping of two soldiers


im not gonna try to jam the truth down your throat because its Allah who guides
I have read about the riots in august of 1929 and you fail to mention that altho 133 jews were killed there were also 116 arabs who died in that struggle its been a long one between the arabs and the jews and you only mention one side of the tale as tho to fool somebody
try again


Isreal is being provided for by AMerica and i completly understand that in a war there will be colateral damadge however this is just barbaric and its blatantly deliberate and to me its laughable that you cant see that

like i said times of struggle for the muslims is predicted Allah is the best of planners

peace

p.s I like how you copy and paste my words to sound how you want them too
 
nimrod said:
Quruxbadaan, you are most kind in your reply, Thanks, it is refreshing.

However I am not so sure you didn’t misunderstand my prior post.

My point was that Hezbollah not being control by the Lebanon’s duly elected government is the problem.

You seemed to indicate, from reading your posts, that you saw the main problem as Hezbollah’s lack of control over the government, as opposed to the lack of the governments ability to control Hezbollah.

Sorry if I miss-read your posts.

Thanks
Nimrod
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Nimrod, Thank you. perhaps you and i have misunderstood eachother

its either you have misunderstood my post or I have misunderstood yours either way its okay
let me try to explain what i mean

I dont mean that the main problem is hezbollahs lack of control Hezbollah is blamewortthy of ferociouse acts of murder and is aslo a problem in this struggle however i simply meant to point out that hezbollah only controls a minorty of the seats in the government (which was a democratically elected one)
this was said in response to a certain individual who was claiming otherwise on the thread (whoes name i wont point out)

I understand your point All i was mentioning was that hezbollah controls a minority of lebanons government ( not to say that this is a good thing or that this is a bad thing)

Thanks Nimrod for your reply Im still searching for that article as soon as i get my hands on it i will make sure to post it up

Im glad that you and I can speak to eachother without a tone of hostility i respect your views and Im glad that we can disagree with eachother respectfully

hey I will go back and read your post again to see if i misunderstood the first time

peace
 
searchingsoul said:
I think the deaths of innocents are sad but can easily be justified, this article did a beautiful job doing just that.
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Inncoent deaths cannot be justified, and the article's persuasiveness is unsatisfactory.
 
The artical was written by a lebonese arab!

But of course his opinion could matter less to you.

This is not about Lebonon or its people. This is about the destruction of Israel.
 
I dont understand how somebody can say that the deaths of innocent lives is justifyable honestly

she wouldnt be singing the same tune if it were her family or her being victimized and raped inside out

HYPOCRITES im not gonna get into anything Im sick of this

I cant even believe this forum will allow these things to be posted!!! Wallahi it makes me sick to my stomach that people think this way
but its okay in the end because they are misguided and all we can do is make dua that Allah bless them with his infinite mercy to see the true light of Islam

and he is Al hakim and he is the best of Planners

Maa salaama
 

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