All eyes on Lebonon now... what about before?

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Quruxbadaan said:
I dont understand how somebody can say that the deaths of innocent lives is justifyable honestly

she wouldnt be singing the same tune if it were her family or her being victimized and raped inside out

HYPOCRITES im not gonna get into anything Im sick of this

I cant even believe this forum will allow these things to be posted!!! Wallahi it makes me sick to my stomach that people think this way
but its okay in the end because they are misguided and all we can do is make dua that Allah bless them with his infinite mercy to see the true light of Islam

and he is Al hakim and he is the best of Planners

Maa salaama
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Some of my people have been "vicimized and raped inside out", but over time my family moved on and allowed time to heal.

I think death of innocents is horrific. I also see war as a necessary evil.
 
searchingsoul said:
Yes, they can be justified. It's called war.
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A war is a confrontation between two or more armed forces.

Deaths of innocent civilains are inexcusable. That is exactly what the spokesman for Israel said about Qana.

Its pretty obvious that you're biased and see one group of people more valuable than another.
 
WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER IF HES LEBANESE

THAT MAKES HIM RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

FRANKLY I THINK HES A FOOL AND SHOULD KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT UNTIL HE KNOWS THE BURN OF HAVING HIS HOME DISTROYED INFRONT OF HIS VERY EYES

THe only destruction going on right now is that of LEBANON Hezboullah is powerless against ISREAL thats the fact

these rockets are not harming anybody 1 or 2 people max dead in Isreal and they cry and cry while secretly they are happy because this gives them a reason to go ahead and whipe out all of lebanon with bombs that have raciall slurs written all over them bby their terrorist children
Authubillahi minashaitani rageem
shayateen thats what Isreal is SHAITAAN!!!!!!
 
Zionazi_Dissent said:
A war is a confrontation between two or more armed forces.

Deaths of innocent civilains are inexcusable. That is exactly what the spokesman for Israel said about Qana.

Its pretty obvious that you're biased and see one group of people more valuable than another.
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COULDNT AGREE MORE

COULDNT AGREE MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Zionazi_Dissent said:
A war is a confrontation between two or more armed forces.

Deaths of innocent civilains are inexcusable. That is exactly what the spokesman for Israel said about Qana.

Its pretty obvious that you're biased and see one group of people more valuable than another.
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Death of innocents during war are unavoidable, so logically they are excusable. Of course they are always saddeninig.

I don't see one group of people more valuable than the others. I know few jews, and half of my family are arab. Why would I value jews over arabs?
 
If there are many more dead children in a conflict than armed men, there is something fundamentally wrong, not only with how the armed men behave and where they hide, but also with the way the response is being conducted.
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---Jan Egeland.
 
Zionazi_Dissent said:
You dont speak for humanity in general.
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I think that most humans would agree with me on the facts that:
1. Death of innocents is sad
2. War without the death of innocents is impossible

That's my stance. I don't love to see people dead or injured. I just accept it as a reality of war. Hope that clarifies it for you.
 
searchingsoul said:
Some of my people have been "vicimized and raped inside out", but over time my family moved on and allowed time to heal.
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Im sure not in the way these Lebanese people are being victimized because otherwise there would be no healing
you cant heal the dead

so unless you know what it feels like to have your life taken unjustly or to watch your mothers life or your childrens lives being taken unjustly infront of you than there is no comparison between what i mention and what you say you have seen or been thru

The bottom line is there is no justification for killing these people war has nothing to do with the murder or civillians nothing at all to do with that

Todays weapons are very sophisticated and can be used in a way to avoid casualties im not saying they wont exist but they will be minimized and that is not happening
the amount of cassualiies in this war are catostrophic and much too devastating to be called Colateral damage its clearly deliberate

May allah bring swift victory to the suffering for he is the one who ordains and he is the one who without his will nothing is possible

Ameen
 
searchingsoul said:
Death of innocents during war are unavoidable, so logically they are excusable. Of course they are always saddeninig.
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Compare the Civilian:Soldier casualty ratio in Lebanon to that of other major wars. Then use your own logic.

searchingsoul said:
I don't see one group of people more valuable than the others. I know few jews, and half of my family are arab. Why would I value jews over arabs?
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Only you can answer that question to yourself.
 
THe casualties in this "WAR" are too catostrophic to be called or labeld Colateral Damage (shrugged off)
THERE IS NO JUSTIFYING THE ACTIONS OF ISREAL

Altho i may not see it during my life time

Allah promises victory to those who desearv it (the muslims) and allah's promise is truth
 
Quruxbadaan said:
Im sure not in the way these Lebanese people are being victimized because otherwise there would be no healing
you cant heal the dead

so unless you know what it feels like to have your life taken unjustly or to watch your mothers life or your childrens lives being taken unjustly infront of you than there is no comparison between what i mention and what you say you have seen or been thru

The bottom line is there is no justification for killing these people war has nothing to do with the murder or civillians nothing at all to do with that

Ameen
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I'm lucky enough to not have personally witnessed war. Some of my ancestors were indigenous people and I'm witness to the fact that time does heal, if given the opportunity.

Every male member of my family has experienced the horrors of war. Again, time heals, and life goes on.

So, know I personally can't relate to war but how many of us on this forum actually can? But what we can acknowledge is the fact that people who have been through the tragedy of war have two options: 1. heal and move one 2. dwell on the negatives and let the anger fester

Hope that helps!:)
 
searchingsoul said:
I'm lucky enough to not have personally witnessed war. Some of my ancestors were indigenous people and I'm witness to the fact that time does heal, if given the opportunity.

Every male member of my family has experienced the horrors of war. Again, time heals, and life goes on.

So, know I personally can't relate to war but how many of us on this forum actually can? But what we can acknowledge is the fact that people who have been through the tragedy of war have two options: 1. heal and move one 2. dwell on the negatives and let the anger fester

Hope that helps!:)
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yes you probably missunderstood what im saying

sad that your family has experienced it sad that my family has experienced it

the fact is that its sad either way and cant be JUSTIFYED thats my point THERE IS NO JUSTIFYING THE INNOCENT LIVES OF PEOPLE BEING TAKEN
thats all im saying and since neither of us have experienced war on personal level than how can it be said that it is justifiable

we cant say that ........its wrong to say that it is okay to kill innocent lives that makes it cold blooded murder not war
 
searchingsoul said:
All deaths are equal to me. It just seems that Israel is winning the war. Nothing more, nothing less.
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LOL, how in the world is Israel "winning?"

I am seeing something very similar to past confronation between Hezbollah and Israel.
 
wallahi Im finished with this thread

it should be trashed
and the mods should start making sure that remarks like

"killing innocent lives is justifyable"
arent made

thats my oppinion altho its probably not going to be seen to

Maa salaama
 
blame hizbollah for the deaths of the innocent civialians in lebanon, hate to see so many people die but hizbollah started it.
 
Zionazi_Dissent said:
LOL, how in the world is Israel "winning?"

I am seeing something very similar to past confronation between Hezbollah and Israel.
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Through the number of deaths, the amount of Lebanese destruction.

I'm not cheering and applauding. It doesn't bring me joy. Quite the opposite.
 
searchingsoul said:
Through the number of deaths, the amount of Lebanese destruction.
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Any person with common sense would know that goes to Hezbollah's advantage.

Israel escalated this war for a cause, a cause which now seems impossible to achieve.

Even Israel's PM said that there's no gurantee that Hezbollah will be "disarmed."

Why Israel is losing
 

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