Am I an "Infidel" ?

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Re: Am I an "Infadel" ?

Well, I really don't befriend non-muslims. It is nothing personal but I myself can get easily influenced. I know I shouldn't so I watch out. I don't hate non-muslims but I don't love them either. I am trying to be honest, butthat doesn't mean that I should treat you in a bad way.

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You are being freindly enough just to say that. But if you are meeting Christians that are condemming you or not treating you with the utmost respect, distance yourself from them.

I never look to influence as I am supposed to, God gave us free will. I only try to answer to the best of my ability to give my Muslim brothers and sisters accurate answers about Christ to the best of my ability. If one does not want to hear it or does not agree that is fine.

If you ever have questions about Christianity I only ask that you ask someone like myself or A Christian as I don't take information about Islam from Christians only Muslims.

Thanks for replying and may God bring you peace and His blessings.
 
Re: Am I an "Infadel" ?

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.. Why would we want to call them Kafir, if they do not know what Kafir means. Non-Muslim does mean Kafir.

some Muslims use the word kafir to degrade non-Muslims or show their hatred towards them . I think , if anyone wants to use this word , s/he should use it with the meaning in bracket .
 
Response to "Am I an Infadel"

I think we went the wrong direction here. The word Kafir may or may not be a degrading or derogatory term, it all depends how different people interpret it. I was looking to see how a Muslim views a Christian. As I read my Qur'an i find some beautiful and heartfelt teachings. I also, after tallying answers from members of the 4 different Islamic sites as well as reading in the Qur'an, see conflicting interpretations of some of the verses or chapters(not unlike some Christians do), Our Bible and your Qur'an have at least one thing in common...Neither is to be interpreted how we want to see it! These word'(s) of God are not subject to interpretation or argument. We should not be putting these books into debate. We should follow God's teachings and LAW.

We (Muslims and Christians) spend too much time debating, arguing and generalizing each other and our faiths. My Lord tells me to love everyone as if they were my brother, and I no matter what, will do so even if another faith says I can't. I always tell my Muslim friends as well as Christian friends that if I were put in a situation that would take my life, (God willing that doesn’t happen), I would give my life to save a Muslim brother or sister as much I would a Christian. All faithful Christians would do the same; I’m not the exception.

I My Muslim friend (and employee) told me the day he doesn’t understand why I would be willing to die for him, not being a Muslim brother believing in the same faith? I said to him put yourself in this situation; I and Mohammad and his family are out to dinner and someone in the parking lot decides they want to rob us and brandish a gun. He tells us that he wants all of the money we have and when we don’t give enough he says he will shoot Mohammad and or his children…I would take his place before he could answer, because I love him and his family, he is a great friend but I also tell him I would do this for a homeless man nobody knows.

I will not fight or argue with anybody. I also know that we Christians and Muslims alike have no right to judge another. The Bible says;

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (Mathew 7:1-5 NIV)


To God belongeth the Mystery of the heavens and the earth, and the decision of the hour of judgment, as the twinkling of an eye, or even quicker, for God hath power over all things.
Islam
The Holy Qur'an Sura XVI v 77



We have no right yet we as humans always do. God the creator has the only right of judgment. In the end of times as we know it, at least I can say, I quarrel with none, and help all that I come in contact with, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, and especially Atheist. I spread God’s word and his existence to all I come in contact with me, and give all I can to the poor and needy, I need not what this earth has to offer, I have one goal and that is that everyone I see or talks to at least knows God is the creator whether they choose Islam or Christianity.

We as humans have an inherent need to believe in something. Even Atheists believe there is no God, that in itself is a belief system, It’s funny they always say they don’t believe in organized religion, yet they have teachers, professors, books to teach what they believe and even claim to have Atheistic Priests! So they believe, they are just misguided and hard hearted. We Christians and Christians should not judge them, but teach them and show them there is a creator and that creator is not a “germ” or Alien space people. We should teach them that God (Allah) is our creator and owe him his glory.


I love all of you and would give my life for any of you! Go with God. May God bless you with all that you need, some that you want and grant entry to heaven to all that believe in Him.

God bless.
 
Re: Response to "Am I an Infadel"

Greetings Italianguy,

I know you're not here to argue, but I think you need to adjust your understanding of atheism. I don't know where you've got some of the ideas in your post from.

We as humans have an inherent need to believe in something. Even Atheists believe there is no God, that in itself is a belief system,

No, it's a belief. There's a big difference.

It’s funny they always say they don’t believe in organized religion, yet they have teachers, professors, books to teach what they believe and even claim to have Atheistic Priests!

I've never heard of an atheist priest. I've also never heard of a teacher of atheism as a subject - it's not something that needs to be taught, as people can come to believe it purely by thinking.

So they believe, they are just misguided and hard hearted.

If you say so. :)

We Christians and Christians should not judge them,

I think you just did...

but teach them and show them there is a creator and that creator is not a “germ” or Alien space people.

Do you think this is what all atheists believe? Why?

I love all of you and would give my life for any of you! Go with God. May God bless you with all that you need, some that you want and grant entry to heaven to all that believe in Him.

God bless.

It looks like you mean well. Good luck to you, sir. :)

Peace
 
Re: Response to "Am I an Infadel"

Greetings Italianguy,

I know you're not here to argue, but I think you need to adjust your understanding of atheism. I don't know where you've got some of the ideas in your post from.



No, it's a belief. There's a big difference.



I've never heard of an atheist priest. I've also never heard of a teacher of atheism as a subject - it's not something that needs to be taught, as people can come to believe it purely by thinking.




If you say so. :)



I think you just did...



Do you think this is what all atheists believe? Why?



It looks like you mean well. Good luck to you, sir. :)

Peace

I stand corrected. I am sorry, it looks as if i did judge you, forgive me.
I only ask that you look to God for fulfillment. I am only saying what i have been taught about atheism. I have an article i will post for you later. Thanks for the reply and God be with you my freind.
 
Re: Response to "Am I an Infadel"

I think we went the wrong direction here. The word Kafir may or may not be a degrading or derogatory term, it all depends how different people interpret it. I was looking to see how a Muslim views a Christian. As I read my Qur'an i find some beautiful and heartfelt teachings. I also, after tallying answers from members of the 4 different Islamic sites as well as reading in the Qur'an, see conflicting interpretations of some of the verses or chapters(not unlike some Christians do),

there are various levels of kuf'r. not believing is one, rejecting is another and fighting against the Truth is another. there are more, just making a point here.

Our Bible and your Qur'an have at least one thing in common...Neither is to be interpreted how we want to see it! These word'(s) of God are not subject to interpretation or argument.

only one is STILL the Word of God. the Christian Bible is made up of writings of unknown origin for the most part, while the vast majority of exists as only copies of copies of copies of copies of the original writings made by unskilled copyists. thus, the copies contained errors which were made worse when THOSE copies [containing errors] were copied, and so on. that, along with the MANY contradictions in the Gospels alone render the New Testament into a set of dawah booklets, each seemingly aimed at a different audience. MOST DEFINITELY NOT the Word of God, but simply the word of man.

we should not be putting these books into debate. We should follow God's teachings and LAW.

each Prophet in his time revealed God's laws, the Last was the Prophet Muhammad. and you are correct in that we should obey God's Message and Laws as delivered by that Last of the Prophets.

We (Muslims and Christians) spend too much time debating, arguing and generalizing each other and our faiths. My Lord tells me to love everyone as if they were my brother, and I no matter what, will do so even if another faith says I can't. I always tell my Muslim friends as well as Christian friends that if I were put in a situation that would take my life, (God willing that doesn’t happen), I would give my life to save a Muslim brother or sister as much I would a Christian. All faithful Christians would do the same; I’m not the exception.

I My Muslim friend (and employee) told me the day he doesn’t understand why I would be willing to die for him, not being a Muslim brother believing in the same faith? I said to him put yourself in this situation; I and Mohammad and his family are out to dinner and someone in the parking lot decides they want to rob us and brandish a gun. He tells us that he wants all of the money we have and when we don’t give enough he says he will shoot Mohammad and or his children…I would take his place before he could answer, because I love him and his family, he is a great friend but I also tell him I would do this for a homeless man nobody knows.

I will not fight or argue with anybody. I also know that we Christians and Muslims alike have no right to judge another. The Bible says;

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (Mathew 7:1-5 NIV)


To God belongeth the Mystery of the heavens and the earth, and the decision of the hour of judgment, as the twinkling of an eye, or even quicker, for God hath power over all things.
Islam
The Holy Qur'an Sura XVI v 77



We have no right yet we as humans always do. God the creator has the only right of judgment. In the end of times as we know it, at least I can say, I quarrel with none, and help all that I come in contact with, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, and especially Atheist. I spread God’s word and his existence to all I come in contact with me, and give all I can to the poor and needy, I need not what this earth has to offer, I have one goal and that is that everyone I see or talks to at least knows God is the creator whether they choose Islam or Christianity.

God indeed DOES have the Right of Judgment, but to reject His Laws IS Kuf'r. Christianity is indeed kuf'r

We as humans have an inherent need to believe in something. Even Atheists believe there is no God, that in itself is a belief system, It’s funny they always say they don’t believe in organized religion, yet they have teachers, professors, books to teach what they believe and even claim to have Atheistic Priests! So they believe, they are just misguided and hard hearted. We Christians and Christians should not judge them, but teach them and show them there is a creator and that creator is not a “germ” or Alien space people. We should teach them that God (Allah) is our creator and owe him his glory.


I love all of you and would give my life for any of you! Go with God. May God bless you with all that you need, some that you want and grant entry to heaven to all that believe in Him.

even Shaytaan, the accursed, believes in God, he just thinks that he knows better than Him. so merely believing must be backed up by obeying. Correct belief and submission to God's Laws.

God bless.

we don't judge as to who will be in heaven or the hellfire. God is Maliki Yawmid Din, the Only Owner of the Day of Judgment. to reject the Laws and Message of Rabbil Alamin, the Creator, Cherish-er, Sustain-er and Healer of All that has been created IS unbelief. and unbelief is kufr.

:wa:
 

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