Anti-gay bullying books withdrawn

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Aaron85 said:
There is no question that it is highly bad to hurt or persecute gays and lesbians. They are human beings, we shoudl treat them with respect and show them kindness. It's just that gay activists(who are often different from average homoseuxals) dont make it easier to people with more traditional point of view.The thing is that gay activists are in the avangarde of every "progressive",leftist and anti christian movements in this world.They are not poor minority(at leats here in West) but they are good organizes rich organization which has millions of dollars to fight for their revolution. Because it is what they want, a social and sexual revolution, with no respect to tradition and religion.I also wonder what minorities will defend the children of nowadays gay activists.Because it is clear that these political and ideological cirlces need "opressed" minorities to defend(women,children,immigrants,).
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Hmmm...perhaps socialized industry and collective land ownership? Naw, surely not. :D
 
They will probably be protecting the rights of Straight, white males!
 
barney said:
They will probably be protecting the rights of Straight, white males!
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That is sort of like defending Stalin isn't it? :D Is there any worse insult these days besides being called a "white anglo male"...
 
I had a gay roommate in college. Really nice chap. I used to hang out with him and his friends (both gay and straight) all the time. I went to gay bars with him for a couple of drink (had already converted from Islam to christianity so this was ok :D). Outside of a few pushy gay men I had a good time. I look at it like this, Isa hung out with a lot worse while he was on earth from adulterers to thieves. His apostoles weren't exactly part of high society when he met them.
 
Trumble said:
I'd actually call it bigotism with a religious veneer, but yes, I suppose...
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Hmm.. bigotism, towards homo's? Wouldnt that be like being a bigot towards people who only wear red hats? I am not sure you can be a bigot towards peoples choice of sexual arousal, can you? If you can then yes I suppose I am
Trumble said:
Conscious choice? As is your religion. Although there is no choice regarding sexual orientation, just sexual practice.
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There is a choice, homos make the wrong one

Trumble said:
You mean immoral and disgusting in your opinion? Personally I think gay people have every right not to expect people to behave like moronic five year olds, but there you go.
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So more simply put, to you, there is nothing immoral about homosexuality? You believe that men were meant to be with men just as much as they were women? If so, why cant men have children together or women? Why is it that procreation can only occur with man and female?

Trumble said:
Unless there is something very odd about you, they are likely to be anatomically identical. A question. Who (or what) is responsible for the existence of gay people?
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Odd about me or odd about them? I am the way I was born (much bigger of course now), what about that man/woman who is pregnant? What about all of the transvestites? People are responsible for the existence of gay people, you know of any other species on earth that practices same sex, sex?

Look I am not condoning the beating or torture or killing of homosexuals, but I am not condoning homosexuality as a norm either. They are wrong and quite frankly I dont want myself, my family or friends to be exposed to these perverts, furthermore, I see nothing wrong with exercising my freedom of speech with them either. I do not want a fag waiting on me in a restaurant, and I will tell them so, bluntly, I do not want one sitting next to my daughter in a class, on a plane, on a bus or on a truck, I do not like them here or there I do not like them anywhere...Dr SuessIt is disgusting, vile and immoral, if you dont believe so, then I guess I hold myself to a higher morality than you, which is fine by me.
 
barney said:
I have absolutly no idea.
This is what keeps puzzling me. I was walking along through Halifax indoor market the other day, and I saw this bloke holding hands with another.
Naturally, I, in accordance with Gods law, grabbed a wrecking bar from a road workers hut and chased after them.
Smashing it into the first ones face, i was pleased to see the abomination before Gods head burst open. Turning my attention to the other, I was aware that his vile actions, required more suffering than the first , so breaking his ribs with the first blow, i simply kicked and kicked at his head , explaining how God would judge him.

To my utter astonishment, two interfering policemen arressted me. They diddnt seem to care about Gods law, just some pansy human law.
I tell ya, I got 14 years in jail just for doing some good.
This world is going to the dogs.

Sincerely.
Barney
Wandsworth Nick.
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hey

I am not saying beat them up or kill them, I am simply saying my respect is something that must be earned. I have a very high sense of integrity and gays dont fit my profile. I just dont want anything to do with them.. Fortunately I live in a part of the US where this really isnt an issue, and my daughter and family is not really exposed to it often. However, it is particularly disturbing when traveling to places like San Fran or San Diego and seeing that type of culture. My personal opinion is it is disgusting. However, as long as I am not approached and my space and person is not impeded on then no one will catch a beating.
 
Aaron85 said:
You suspect that Europe will be secular forever, but this continent may be very different in next 40 years, and acceptance of sexual deviance might not be as wide as now.
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"sexual deviance" is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Some muslims think poligamy is ok. Some western religious folks think homosexuality is ok. This is all very arbitrary and there is no logic to any of it outside of religious dogma.
 
Keltoi said:
To be serious for a second...it is hard for people of faith to accept what we consider a seriously sinful lifestyle to be "normalized". ...... I choose to ignore the gay lifestyle and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where my family isn't really exposed to it ....... but that isn't a lifestyle I want my children to consider "normal"...because to a person of faith it is quite far from normal.
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Interesting how you keep referring to it as a "lifestyle", as if being gay is like some sort of deviant social club, akin to living in a crackhouse.

If being gay is a choice, could you force yourself to fancy people of the same sex?

Aaron85 said:
with no respect to tradition and religion.
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Odd that, they don't respect the traditions and religions which say they should be stoned to death.
 
AJ Jacobs book,"Year of Living Biblically" has a part where he visits the Gay-Christian Church in the middle of the Bible Belt.

The Gay pastor in command, explained the "clobbering verses" as the "Clobbered verses", and says that
"Lying with a man as with a woman, is simply saying that you shouldnt sleep with something you disrespect, as women in those days were disrespected"

My right eyebrow shot up of course on so many levels. I was considering booking a family outing to his church as the kids have always been fond of seeing people jump through impossible hoops.


To the people who have answered so far with a "If they leave me alone...I wont hurt them", Is the fact that to bully or harrass someone because of their orientation is a crime acing as a detterent to you carrying out Gods will in putting Gays to death.
 
Azy said:
Interesting how you keep referring to it as a "lifestyle", as if being gay is like some sort of deviant social club, akin to living in a crackhouse.

If being gay is a choice, could you force yourself to fancy people of the same sex?

Odd that, they don't respect the traditions and religions which say they should be stoned to death.
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It is a lifestyle choice, yes. I can have an inner lust for kangaroos, but unless I act on those desires I am not living the "kangaroo lust" lifestyle. :D

Now of course, most "liberal" minded people will say asking those with homosexual desires not to act upon them is bigoted, shallow, unrealistic, and religious extremism.

Personally, I don't care what homosexuals do, as long as I'm not expected to get involved. However, I don't have to "leftisize" myself to the point where I'm expected to see it as a normal state of existence either.
 
Pygoscelis said:
"sexual deviance" is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Some muslims think poligamy is ok. Some western religious folks think homosexuality is ok. This is all very arbitrary and there is no logic to any of it outside of religious dogma.
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Erm, there's quite a bit of logic to polygamy, such as the expansion of mankind and the spreading of surplus wealth to poor people, in addition to bolstering community (due to family construct etc)

There's no logic to homosexuality though. It's pretty much down to emotion and conformity, really (some sort of logic does come into it what with the partnership thing but it's emotion that's driving it). Do note I studied about homosexuality in psychology - so I'm not making this up :p.

Azy said:
Odd that, they don't respect the traditions and religions which say they should be stoned to death.
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You do know that in Islam, the homo who committed the act would have to go through a court system and have to be found guilty first before any punishment can be given? It's not like you throw rocks at every gay person you see.
 
I guess this thread is good at portraying why those books are needed in the first place. Im glad schools are combatting against intolerance and hatred.

I hope there is a way to teach tolerance for young children towards gay people without the books being too detailed about sexuality (which we dont actually know if they were).
 
in case you've missed it, the books are withdrawn!!!.. children have no business learning of deviant sexual acts or life styles.. frankly neither do adults.. if two men want to get bent together, they shouldn't flaunt it in everyone's face and expect the world to felicitate their lechery--

do heterosexuals hold parades wearing sleezy thongs, gyrating to every onlooker... what a farce... what is more absured is those who promote and encourage them!
 
aamirsaab said:
Erm, there's quite a bit of logic to polygamy, such as the expansion of mankind and the spreading of surplus wealth to poor people, in addition to bolstering community (due to family construct etc)

There's no logic to homosexuality though.
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Actually, in an age of human overpopulatoin, homosexuality could have some arguments made for it - along the same lines as those you're thinking of for poligamy
 
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