Anti-Islam Anti-Muslim Protests in Birmingham

[Ar-RaYYan]

Hold on there. I'm a British born Muslim and I hold no allegiance to Pakistan whatsoever. Maybe where you live most of the Muslims are pakistani, but that doesn't go for everywhere. Don't generalise please.

yeah i agree :thumbs_up
Dont make this assumption that all British born Muslims hold allegiance to their country of origin

 

[Blackpool]

Yeh same here because its what you call home, even though the weather nd everythin is depressin on the way back its still the climate I like and can tolerate nd actually chill in!

I won't moan about the climate. It can be a pain but unlike Florida, a holiday makers dream, and places in Asia, Australia, South America, North America, we don't get devastating earth quakes, hurricanes, severe lightning storms, bush fires.

 

[GuestFellow]

There are no muslims where I live. There are a huge amount of muslims, British born too, that opt for Pakistan over England. One example is in cricket...

This is perhaps my last post in this thread now.

Actually I would opt England over Pakistan. :/

 

[Banu_Hashim]

^Lol. Exactly... How is 'Muslim' synonymous with 'immigrant'.

Because in the UK it's in the norm for muslims, even British-born muslims, to opt for Pakistan over England. Some here will know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a question, breathe.

Even British born Muslims ? Really? Wow. They must be so hard to come by... :rollseyes

 

[barrio79]

pakistan? why in the world that country out of all others? or did you assume me Pakistani? I was actually born in Tanzania to non-Tanzanian parents, lived there for about 40 days so I have no memories. My father a former diplomat (now retired) took us (his family) just about every where from london, to Holland, to Turkey, to Egypt, to Saudi Arabia, to the U.S and everything you can think of in between. So the answer to spare you further assumptions as to my identity is NO, I have no loyalty to any place, my loyalty is to doing good when I can by the means that God has bestowed upon me, which I have utalized through hard work and study!
my brain and heart belong inside my body and I take them both wherever I go!

all the best

As Goss says one can easily travel the world now , Many people seek to enter Great Britain both legally and illegally as they have heard that it is the place to go to obtain freedom and economic independence and friendly government assistance.
If however when you get there you find that this is a wrong set of assumptions then proceed further to a more friendly accepting community eg Malaysia and Indonesia have good climate are economically stable and welcome their fellow travellers .

So why stay in Great Britain which some posters say has too many Brits , cold weather, and an unwelcoming community when there are so many welcoming countries elsewhere

 

[جوري]

As Goss says one can easily travel the world now , Many people seek to enter Great Britain both legally and illegally as they have heard that it is the place to go to obtain freedom and economic independence and friendly government assistance.
If however when you get there you find that this is a wrong set of assumptions then proceed further to a more friendly accepting community eg Malaysia and Indonesia have good climate are economically stable and welcome their fellow travellers .

So why stay in Great Britain which some posters say has too many Brits , cold weather, and an unwelcoming community when there are so many welcoming countries elsewhere

Good question indeed borborygmi.. I can't imagine anyone willingly consciously and freely living in the mildew country but, I'd actually favor that a few burly & questionable folks from each place that was once under colonization and subjected to thievery from said country to have at it and its private civillians.. in fact I encourage it-- I am a strong believer in eye for an eye!
I rather think England should be divided up between India, Hong Kong, China, Africa and the middle east.. meh will through the U.S too since they have recently celebrated their independance from the colonial state .. and perhaps your tootin' queen can start by handing properties stolen in the 13th Century to its rightful owners ey?

all the best

 

[barrio79]

Good question indeed borborygmi.. I can't imagine anyone willingly consciously and freely living in the mildew country but, I'd actually favor that a few burly & questionable folks from each place that was once under colonization and subjected to thievery from said country to have at it and its private civillians.. in fact I encourage it-- I am a strong believer in eye for an eye!
I rather think England should be divided up between India, Hong Kong, China, Africa and the middle east.. meh will through the U.S too since they have recently celebrated their independance from the colonial state .. and perhaps your tootin' queen can start by handing properties stolen in the 13th Century to its rightful owners ey?

all the best

Well thanks for the compliments ,1. in agreeing that leaving that mildew country would be a sensible proposition and 2.for the epithet borborygmi which I have just found out is aboriginal for " esteemed member of the Bora Ring "

 

[جوري]

Well thanks for the compliments ,1. in agreeing that leaving that mildew country would be a sensible proposition and 2.for the epithet borborygmi which I have just found out is aboriginal for " esteemed member of the Bora Ring "

you must have some sort of comprehension and or reading impediment borborygmi? since I don't live in your mildew country, I rather think that it is something for its own private citizens to decide? and secondly borborygmi is a loud grumbling sound that may be mistook for a serious disease but is actually a rather harmless manifestation that related to flatulence
I thought it really befitting of you as an hypocorism!

all the best

 

[barrio79]

you must have some sort of comprehension and or reading impediment borborygmi? since I don't live in your mildew country, I rather think that it is something for its own private citizens to decide? and secondly borborygmi is a loud grumbling sound that may be mistook for a serious disease but is actually a rather harmless manifestation that related to flatulence
I thought it really befitting of you as an hypocorism!

all the best

I thought you were agreeing that those unfortunate souls who moved to Great Britain should seek out a better place once they discover what an unpleasant cold mildewy unwelcoming place that it is . As you pointed out it is so easy to move to another country nowadays , so no one should be under any disadvantage by moving on.

thanks for the other lesson but think i will go with my aboriginal friends interpretation on this occasion

 

[جوري]

I thought you were agreeing that those unfortunate souls who moved to Great Britain should seek out a better place once they discover what an unpleasant cold mildewy unwelcoming place that it is . As you pointed out it is so easy to move to another country nowadays , so no one should be under any disadvantage by moving on.

thanks for the other lesson but think i will go with my aboriginal friends interpretation on this occasion

I rather think I called everyone for a chunky sum to be divided amongst its previous victims.. nonetheless you seem to have some focal neurological deficits that are interfering with how you process information?....

in closure, since I bestowed upon you the title of Borborygmus we'll of course go by my chosen and widely accepted definition which I rather think is more befitting of you effective immediately without the need for a license!

now take a hike as I have some work to do and can't stand the sound of my mail box dinging with news stupidity!

 

[Zafran]

Most of the immigrants of the 60s were needed anyway for the UK economy. Frankly most immigrants were poverty stricken people - to do the jobs that people didnt want to do.

 

[جوري]

Most of the immigrants of the 60s were needed anyway for the UK economy. Frankly the most pverty stricken people immigrated - to do the jobs that people didnt want to do.

You don't have to explain other people's actions to this simp.
if he doesn't like it, he can go protest his grievances along side the other racialists where they get drunk and rowdy and eventually hauled to the nearest hospital to be taken care of by folks they profess superiority to!

 

[Zafran]

You don't have to explain other people's actions to this simp.
if he doesn't like it, he can go protest his grievances along side the other racialists where they get drunk and rowdy and eventually hauled to the nearest hospital to be taken care of by folks they profess superiority to!

yeah I find it odd how people are so ignorant of immigration - especially in the uk - 60s when there was a need for them - otherwise so many people wouldnt have been allowed to come.

 

[adam11]

Wow! The topic exploded!

There were some concerns earlier that this wouldn't be happening. That's not very nice! Have more faith in us!
First of all there are now four organisations backing the counter-demonstration:
Love Music Hate Racism
Unite
Muslim Council of Britain
British Muslim Initiative

The demonstration WILL happen. And I have been getting involved with planning, and hopefully it will get media coverage (at least from PressTV).

And as for mass prayer, people are working very hard to promote the idea to people attending and in the above four organisations and are tipping off media workers about it as well.

Someone asked if it would be Dhuhr. I doubt it, if anything it will either be Asr or not a compulsory one at all. The demonstration will assemble at 5pm (an hour before the football firmers arrive) in the city centre (the corner of New St and the High St).

 

[Blackpool]

There is a MASSIVE difference between the 1960s and the year 2009.

 

[adam11]

There is a MASSIVE difference between the 1960s and the year 2009.

How do you mean?

 

[Blackpool]

How do you mean?

In the 1960s Britain needed more workforce and therefore looked to the immigrants. In 2009, we have MORE than enough. Britain is full and needs to deport hundreds of thousands of immigrants. The first to be deported should be those that came here and are not contributing to it.

 

[adam11]

In the 1960s Britain needed more workforce and therefore looked to the immigrants. In 2009, we have MORE than enough. Britain is full and needs to deport hundreds of thousands of immigrants. The first to be deported should be those that came here and are not contributing to it.

Why? How are immigrants and British born sons and daughters of immigrants (like myself - half spanish half irish) causing the UK problems?
And who are these immigrants that you're on about?

It seems to me you want to chuck the Africans, Indians and Pakistanis out but not the South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders and North Americans?
This despite the fact that the latter bunch are more likely to have jobs and the former bunch are more likely to be unemployed.

The people (in general) are not the problem, the government and economic system are the problem.

 

[Raaina]

Hold on,

He didn't say anything about chucking out Africans, Indians and Pakistanis, where did you get this idea from?

The last influx of immigrants into this country were the Polish and I believe they are leaving now because there is no work here.

 

[adam11]

Hold on,

He didn't say anything about chucking out Africans, Indians and Pakistanis, where did you get this idea from?

The last influx of immigrants into this country were the Polish and I believe they are leaving now because there is no work here.

Cos he brought up the 1960's when we had Africans, Indians and Pakistanis coming in.