Are you a Vegetarian? Are there benefits?

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In some countries is quite hard to eat vegetables all the time. Because of the weather, no rain can’t grow vegetables and fruit. I can’t live without some form of meat! I like chicken mainly.
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

marwen:

A Muslim adhering to a vegan diet is following the laws of Allah. Choosing not to eat meat is a choice. Eating meat is not Fard (Obligatory), an exception is slaughtering and sacrificing meat for Id and distributing it. The availability of Hilal meat is a issue in many non Muslim countries.

Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 7, Book 68, Number 477:

Narrated 'Aisha:

We used to salt some of the meat of sacrifice and present it to the Prophet at Medina. Once he said, "Do not eat (of that meat) for more than three days." That was not a final order, but (that year) he wanted us to feed of it to others, Allah knows better.

Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 7, Book 68, Number 480:

Narrated Salim:

'Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "Allah's Apostle said, "Eat of the meat of sacrifices (of 'Id al Adha) for three days." When 'Abdullah departed from Mina, he used to eat (bread with) oil, lest he should eat of the meat of Hadi (which is regarded as unlawful after the three days of the 'Id).

Note: The evidence above is not advocating that the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) only ate meat during Id or that eating meat is only lawful during Id and three days after.
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There are foods you don't eat which is a choice.


Surah An'am

6:141 It is He Who produceth gardens, with trellises and without, and dates, and tilth with produce of all kinds, and olives and pomegranates, similar (in kind) and different (in variety): eat of their fruit in their season, but render the dues that are proper on the day that the harvest is gathered. But waste not by excess: for Allah loveth not the wasters. (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Ra'd

13:4 And in the earth are tracts (diverse though) neighbouring, and gardens of vines and fields sown with corn, and palm trees - growing out of single roots or otherwise: watered with the same water, yet some of them We make more excellent than others to eat. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who understand! (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Nahl

16:11 With it He produces for you corn, olives, date-palms, grapes and every kind of fruit: verily in this is a sign for those who give thought. (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Waqi'ah

56:29 And clustered plantains (bananas), (Picktall translation)

Surah Baqarah

2:61 And remember ye said: "O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions." He said: "Will ye exchange the better for the worse? Go ye down to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!" They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing. (Y. Ali translation)

The Prophet ate what he liked and he left aside what he didn't like.

This post was submitted with the best intentions. Any positive contribution based on Quran and Sunnah is appreciated.
 
I couldn't live without chicken- it's my main source of protein as I'm allergic to eggs and nuts.
Anyway, a vegetable pizza compared to a chicken one is...very different. Same with chicken salad compared to a normal 'green' one lol
I tried soya milk once. Alhamdulillah.:skeleton: I think I'll stick to cows and goats milk in the future :hiding:
If Allah SWT has blessed us with meat, why not make the most of it?? :-\
 
I usually eat brown rice, different types of beans, vegetables, fruit, dried fruit, yoghurt and eggs. Sometimes salmon, chicken or other meat but I'm not a big meat eater. I have also started consuming cinnamon powder (ceylon) and turmeric powder daily.. turmeric powder is apparently the healthiest spice on earth or one of the healthiest. It's almost impossible to eat healthier than I do, but I'm still an emotional wreck most of the time.. :)
 
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22 pounds lost after a 22 week nearly vegetarian diet alhamdulilah. I'm like 30% vegan, 60% vegetarian and 10% omnivorous. Each day it's 1 meal that's vegan, and 2 meals that are vegetarian (mainly butter, milk and honey). Meat is a 2 or 3 times a month treat.

Don't know what I'll do in Ramadan though, as all the iftars we're invited to are carnivore delights. The only vegetarian offerings is usually a limp looking salad :skeleton:
 
UmmSqueakster said:
22 pounds lost after a 22 week nearly vegetarian diet alhamdulilah. I'm like 30% vegan, 60% vegetarian and 10% omnivorous. Each day it's 1 meal that's vegan, and 2 meals that are vegetarian (mainly butter, milk and honey). Meat is a 2 or 3 times a month treat.

Don't know what I'll do in Ramadan though, as all the iftars we're invited to are carnivore delights. The only vegetarian offerings is usually a limp looking salad :skeleton:
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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

UmmSqueakster:

Saum (Abstaining) in the Islamic Month of Ramadan allows Muslims to reestablish discipline in their nafs (desires, lower self) and diet. Fasting isn't changing your eating from daytime to nighttime. The benefits are boundless spiritually and physically. I am exposed to the identical iftar. I usually gravitate to the iftars that offer vegan options. With all the cooks and recipes during this month you should locate various dietary options. My stomach gets small during this month and I couldn't eat all what I see if I wanted.
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Argamemnon:

I agree that multi-vitamins alone will not be sufficient in replacing the nutrients that are in meat. It requires many other natural products to replace or compliment what a person doesn't receive with meat. That would be true for developing countries that don't have any food at all.

http://www.build-muscle-and-burn-fat.com/soy-versus-whey-protein.html
 
Wa Alaykum Salam

Well, I don't eat meat at all but I do eat eggs etc..

I don't eat meat because I don't know if it is halal. My mother gets meat from grocery stores. Is this praise?
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

UmmSqueakster:

The obesity witnessed in the Masjid in many cases can be attributed to overeating. The observance of consumption during the iftar is like people are just altering their diet to the evening verses fasting.

Good job in losing the desired weight. It will benefit your health immediately and the long run. Being overweight could contribute to diabetes and high blood pressure.

Alhamdulillah

Thank you for your positive comments.

Jazakumullahu Khair
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Sister Unknown:

Insha Allah that is the primary reason that motivated Muslims observing the vegan or vegetarian diet because of the lack of availability of Hilal meat. The following link will explain the Zabiha process regarding which foods can and cannot be eaten and also on the proper method of slaughtering an animal for consumption, known as Zabihah.

http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~facilities/documents/HalalStandards.pdf

http://www.zabihah.com/ad.php?id=1

http://hilal-discourse.net/pdf/Zabiha-Final.pdf

Jazakumullahu Khair
 
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Wa Aalaykum Salam

The second link worked. I read what it says and I'll explore it furher inshAllah. The first link didn't work but that's my computer.

jazzakAllahu Kahyr. May Allah rewar dyou.
 
But waste not by excess: for Allah loveth not the wasters. (Y. Ali translation)

A very good aya. How much do we wate these days?


Abu Umamah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "O son of Adam, if you spend the surplus, it will be better for you; and if you retain it, it will be evil for you. You will not be reprimanded for storing what is enough for your need. First of all spend upon those who are your dependents."

[At-Tirmidhi].


Commentary: The Muslims have been allowed, rather emphatically told and commanded, to possess as much wealth as could meet their personal and family needs. Yet, they have also been advised to spend the spare money on the needy. Man has been told that it is unwise on his part to be niggardly about money because it spawns unfavourable results in this world as well as in the Hereafter. The concentration of wealth within a few hands freezes its vitality and leads to corruption in society. As for the Hereafter, the result of stinginess will be definitely bad as the Qur'an says:

"The things which they covetously withheld shall be tied to their necks like a collar on the Day of Resurrection." (3:180)

Some 'Ulama' are of the opinion that after the payment of the annual Zakat (poor-due), it is not necessary to spend more. But to be accurate, if somebody pays Zakat and yet retains enough money with him, and there are some needy people also in his knowledge, then he will be bound to spend on them. At-Tirmidhi quoted a Hadith in which Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Indeed there is a right (for poor) in the wealth in addition to Zakat."
 
Here in the USA we are in the midst of one of the largest meat producing regions of the world. But, a very small percentage of it is halal and suitable for eating. We are like the thirsty man on a raft in the sea, "Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink." Many Muslims in the USA are limited to vegetarian or very near vegetarian diets.

Because of this we have learned to eat a very large variety of fruits, nuts and vegetables.

You can not always trust the Halal label in the stores even in stores run by Muslims as the grocer may have been lied to about the source. Even then even if it is known the animal was slaughtered properly it is very doubtful it was cared for or fed properly. We have very few Muslim farmers raising sufficient meat for sales.

We need more wealthy Muslims moving to the USA with sufficient money to make a successful Halal meat farm. Because of the distances from the meat producing regions and the population centers a farmer would need to produce many thousands of pounds of meat per week just to off set costs. Food while a big necessity is a very low profit item for farmers. Here many farms have been abandoned because the farners could not afford the losses.

My friend here was raising beef and it looked promising that between the 2 of us we could provide some halal beef for the North Dakota market. He was raising it properly and I would have been doing the slaughtering. But, after paying nearly $1 per pound for the calves and raising them we ended up with about 30 cents per pound from the sales. But, brought the stores 5 to 10 dollars per pound at retail. A considerable loss of money for both of us. Which is why I have to stick with horses. Can't eat them, but at least they bring in enough income to pay some of the bills.
 
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Woodrow::

Sukranallah!

Very informative. Those who don't observe a vegan or vegetarian diet fail to realize that many practicing Muslims began to observe the vegan or vegetarian diet because of the lack of availability of Hilal meat.

This fact has been presented in the early parts of this thread and is apparently neglected. Review the threads that were created to mirror and create an opposing view to this thread.

Alhamdulillah!

Jazakumullahu Khair
 
sabr* said:
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Woodrow::

Sukranallah!

Very informative. Those who don't observe a vegan or vegetarian diet fail to realize that many practicing Muslims began to observe the vegan or vegetarian diet because of the lack of availability of Hilal meat.

This fact has been presented in the early parts of this thread and is apparently neglected. Review the threads that were created to mirror and create an opposing view to this thread.

Alhamdulillah!

Jazakumullahu Khair
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In spite of many Muslims in the USA saying they have no problem in finding Halal meat. I will simply say there is no problem in finding meat that is labeled Halal. The only question is "Can the label be believed?"

Actual verifiable halal meat is harder to find in the USA, than ice cubes in the Sahara. The Chickens and Beef are most often raised on what can best be called an animal factory and not a farm. Both Chicjkens and Cows are not native to the USA. They can not survive well on the natural habitat of the land, to raise them food suppliments have to be added to their diets, quite often these suppliments are animal by products. It gets to be very questionable as to if the animal is halal even if it looks like what is supposed to be a halal animal.

If you do not know the farmer, how the animal was raised and know who slaughtered it. You really have no proof of anything being halal except the label. Sorry, I have little faith in labels and want to know, not think what I eat is halal. I do not want to insinuate everybody who sticks a halal label on their products is wrong, I just say check carefully and so far here in North Dakota the only meat I know for certain is halal is that from people I personally know, which is not available very often, so I end up spending most of the year vegetarian.

People who do not live in areas where halal meat is scarce have difficulty in understanding how difficult it can be to find.
 
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sabr* said:
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

marwen:

A Muslim adhering to a vegan diet is following the laws of Allah. Choosing not to eat meat is a choice. Eating meat is not Fard (Obligatory), an exception is slaughtering and sacrificing meat for Id and distributing it. The availability of Hilal meat is a issue in many non Muslim countries.

Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 7, Book 68, Number 477:

Narrated 'Aisha:

We used to salt some of the meat of sacrifice and present it to the Prophet at Medina. Once he said, "Do not eat (of that meat) for more than three days." That was not a final order, but (that year) he wanted us to feed of it to others, Allah knows better.

Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 7, Book 68, Number 480:

Narrated Salim:

'Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "Allah's Apostle said, "Eat of the meat of sacrifices (of 'Id al Adha) for three days." When 'Abdullah departed from Mina, he used to eat (bread with) oil, lest he should eat of the meat of Hadi (which is regarded as unlawful after the three days of the 'Id).

Note: The evidence above is not advocating that the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) only ate meat during Id or that eating meat is only lawful during Id and three days after.
__________________________________________________________________________

There are foods you don't eat which is a choice.


Surah An'am

6:141 It is He Who produceth gardens, with trellises and without, and dates, and tilth with produce of all kinds, and olives and pomegranates, similar (in kind) and different (in variety): eat of their fruit in their season, but render the dues that are proper on the day that the harvest is gathered. But waste not by excess: for Allah loveth not the wasters. (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Ra'd

13:4 And in the earth are tracts (diverse though) neighbouring, and gardens of vines and fields sown with corn, and palm trees - growing out of single roots or otherwise: watered with the same water, yet some of them We make more excellent than others to eat. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who understand! (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Nahl

16:11 With it He produces for you corn, olives, date-palms, grapes and every kind of fruit: verily in this is a sign for those who give thought. (Y. Ali translation)

Surah Waqi'ah

56:29 And clustered plantains (bananas), (Picktall translation)

Surah Baqarah

2:61 And remember ye said: "O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions." He said: "Will ye exchange the better for the worse? Go ye down to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!" They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing. (Y. Ali translation)

The Prophet ate what he liked and he left aside what he didn't like.

This post was submitted with the best intentions. Any positive contribution based on Quran and Sunnah is appreciated.
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Read the first three ayaat of al Maaidah:

بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ أَوۡفُواْ بِٱلۡعُقُودِ*ۚ أُحِلَّتۡ لَكُم بَہِيمَةُ ٱلۡأَنۡعَـٰمِ إِلَّا مَا يُتۡلَىٰ عَلَيۡكُمۡ غَيۡرَ مُحِلِّى ٱلصَّيۡدِ وَأَنتُمۡ حُرُمٌ*ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَحۡكُمُ مَا يُرِيدُ (١) يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا تُحِلُّواْ شَعَـٰٓٮِٕرَ ٱللَّهِ وَلَا ٱلشَّہۡرَ ٱلۡحَرَامَ وَلَا ٱلۡهَدۡىَ وَلَا ٱلۡقَلَـٰٓٮِٕدَ وَلَآ ءَآمِّينَ ٱلۡبَيۡتَ ٱلۡحَرَامَ يَبۡتَغُونَ فَضۡلاً۬ مِّن رَّبِّہِمۡ وَرِضۡوَٲنً۬ا*ۚ وَإِذَا حَلَلۡتُمۡ فَٱصۡطَادُواْ*ۚ وَلَا يَجۡرِمَنَّكُمۡ شَنَـَٔانُ قَوۡمٍ أَن صَدُّوڪُمۡ عَنِ ٱلۡمَسۡجِدِ ٱلۡحَرَامِ أَن تَعۡتَدُواْ*ۘ وَتَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى ٱلۡبِرِّ وَٱلتَّقۡوَىٰ*ۖ وَلَا تَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى ٱلۡإِثۡمِ وَٱلۡعُدۡوَٲنِ*ۚ وَٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ*ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ شَدِيدُ ٱلۡعِقَابِ (٢) حُرِّمَتۡ عَلَيۡكُمُ ٱلۡمَيۡتَةُ وَٱلدَّمُ وَلَحۡمُ ٱلۡخِنزِيرِ وَمَآ أُهِلَّ لِغَيۡرِ ٱللَّهِ بِهِۦ وَٱلۡمُنۡخَنِقَةُ وَٱلۡمَوۡقُوذَةُ وَٱلۡمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَٱلنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَآ أَكَلَ ٱلسَّبُعُ إِلَّا مَا ذَكَّيۡتُمۡ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى ٱلنُّصُبِ وَأَن تَسۡتَقۡسِمُواْ بِٱلۡأَزۡلَـٰمِ*ۚ ذَٲلِكُمۡ فِسۡقٌ*ۗ ٱلۡيَوۡمَ يَٮِٕسَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن دِينِكُمۡ فَلَا تَخۡشَوۡهُمۡ وَٱخۡشَوۡنِ*ۚ ٱلۡيَوۡمَ أَكۡمَلۡتُ لَكُمۡ دِينَكُمۡ وَأَتۡمَمۡتُ عَلَيۡكُمۡ نِعۡمَتِى وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ ٱلۡإِسۡلَـٰمَ دِينً۬ا*ۚ فَمَنِ ٱضۡطُرَّ فِى مَخۡمَصَةٍ غَيۡرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ۬ لِّإِثۡمٍ۬*ۙ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٌ۬ رَّحِيمٌ۬ (٣)​

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
O ye who believe! Fulfil your undertakings. The beast of cattle is made lawful unto you (for food) except that which is announced unto you (herein), game being unlawful when ye are on the pilgrimage. Lo! Allah ordaineth that which pleaseth Him. (1) O ye who believe! Profane not Allah's monuments nor the Sacred Month nor the offerings nor those garlands, nor those repairing to the Sacred House, seeking the grace and pleasure of their Lord. But when ye have left the sacred territory, then go hunting (if ye will). And let not your hatred of a folk who (once) stopped your going to the inviolable place of worship seduce you to transgress; but help ye one another unto righteousness and pious duty. Help not one another unto sin and transgression, but keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is severe in punishment. (2) Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine-flesh, and that which hath been dedicated unto any other than Allah, and the strangled, and the dead through beating, and the dead through falling from a height, and that which hath been killed by (the goring of) horns, and the devoured of wild beasts, saving that which ye make lawful (by the death-stroke), and that which hath been immolated unto idols. And (forbidden is it) that ye swear by the divining arrows. This is an abomination. This day are those who disbelieve in despair of (ever harming) your religion; so fear them not, fear Me! This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion AL-ISLAM. Whoso is forced by hunger, not by will, to sin: (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (3)

You've very kindly mentioned the vegan diet as following the laws of Allah, but you missed out the same for cattle (as mentioned in al Maaidah). Remember one thing; try to give the full picture of any scenario when talking about laws of Allah.

 [FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]وَلَا تَلۡبِسُواْ ٱلۡحَقَّ بِٱلۡبَـٰطِلِ وَتَكۡتُمُواْ ٱلۡحَقَّ وَأَنتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُونَ

Confound not truth with falsehood, nor knowingly conceal the truth. (2:42)

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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Ahmed Waheed:

Apparently you failed to read the entire thread. Those Muslims who eat vegan or vegetarian primary reason is not having access to Hilal meat. There isn't anyone in this thread that has claimed eating Hilal meat is unlawful. The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) ate what he wanted that was lawful which you appear to fail to acknowledge. Let us remind you.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 65, Number 320:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet never criticized any food (he was invited to) but he used to eat if he liked the food, and leave it if he disliked.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 65, Number 314:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

My aunt presented (roasted) mastigures, Iqt and milk to the Prophet . The mastigures were put on his dining sheet, and if it was unlawful to eat, it would not have been put there. The Prophet drank the milk and ate the Iqt only.
 

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