Are you a Vegetarian? Are there benefits?

[Snowflake]

Personally I find the ones made with Fava beans to have the richer flavor. But, I am a Fava bean lover. To me they have a very meaty flavor. While genuine Falafel is made with Garbanzos (chick peas) I prefer the ones made with Fava Beans.

Jazak Allah khayr for you input akhi. That's what I wanted to know. I made some for iftari today with a can chick peas that was lying around. I might have missed the authentic flavour by adding some chopped green chillies and red chilli powder to the mix. But they were surprisingly nice and looked like kebabs. I'm definitely going to try making them with fava beans. But which ones would you recommend. Dried or canned? Are canned ones any less tasty?

I have to second Br. Woodrow.. there is no beating the flavor of the fava bean falafel bar none!
It is amazing that poor people's food can taste so good.. al7mdlillah.. Allah swt does provide for everyone according to their means the best there is..

Jazaki Allah khayr ukhti. I can't wait to try fava beans now. Falafel has shot to the top of my list of what to serve unexpected guests in a hurry. And you're right about 'poor people's food'. Some of the best food I've had was the plain simple food in the villages of Pakistan. Unbeatable!

Not tried either... despite living in the middle east!

Some vegetarian dishes I truly love are South Indian Chaat and Thali menus. They are very flavoursome (is that a word?) and packed with variety.

Aw then I beaten you to it living in the UK ukhti! Jazaki Allah khayr for the link. I try Indian food now and then (not sure which part of India it's from). I made dahi bhalle as well today. They are fried lentil balls in yogurt topped with tamarind sauce. A lot of indian & pakistani food is the same. But when it comes to vegetarian fayre, you can't beat the indians.

Dahi bhalle - truly delicious and healthy too mashaAllah

 

[manaal]

@ Bro Woodrow : Point taken. May Allah Bless you for your patience and being such a good explainer!

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Aw then I beaten you to it living in the UK ukhti! Jazaki Allah khayr for the link. I try Indian food now and then (not sure which part of India it's from). I made dahi bhalle as well today. They are fried lentil balls in yogurt topped with tamarind sauce. A lot of indian & pakistani food is the same. But when it comes to vegetarian fayre, you can't beat the indians.

Dahi bhalle - truly delicious and healthy too mashaAllah

You are soooo right about Indian veg dishes!

here's another mid eastern one.... "Baba Ghanoush" - a creamy broiled eggplant dip with lemon and parsley is lovely with toasted pita bread. I have tried but haven't made it my self. If I do, I'd add some thinly sliced green chillies and red onions to ad some kick to it. Ahhhh................

 

[sabr*]

Understanding threads before posting on them.

I doubt if the thread starter was intending to push vegetarianism upon non-vegetarians,my feeling is he was trying to show that it not haram to be a vegetarian by choice.

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Woodrow:

Your statement is correct. The title of the thread and the posts in the thread provides clearity. Sometimes a thread requires reading before posting.

 

[sabr*]

Pesco-vegetarianism

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

manaal

I assume the term pesco-vegetarianism would apply to many who are unable to secure Hilal meats. There are no dietary slaughtering requirements for seafood.

Pesco-vegetarianism -is the practice of a diet that includes seafood and excludes mammals and birds. In addition to fish or shellfish, a pescetarian diet typically includes some or all of vegetables, fruit, nuts, grains, beans, eggs, and dairy.

 

[Woodrow]

One thing I notice is the further away from the equater you go the more prevelant meat eating becomes, until you raech a point where no vegetables are eaten (North of the Artic Circle) although now because of rapid transport that is changing.
An all meat diet seems to be quite unhealthy. If you look at the prevalent illnesses found among Eskimos, Inuits, Lapps etc.

Scurvy

SALMONELLOSIS

Vitamin A toxicity

Lower respiratory distress

Periodontal Disease

It appears for the best health there needs to be a balance between vegitarian and meat diets. Over doing in nearly anything results in health problems. Perhaps moderation in eating is the most beneficial diet.

 

[IAmZamzam]

As for how vegetarianism relates to our religion, the Koran makes it absolutely clear that there is nothing inherently wrong with eating meat:

And He created the cattle for you; you have in them warm clothing and (many) advantages, and of them do you eat… (Koran 16:5, Shakir)

And that the same goes for other animal-based foods like milk:

Most surely there is a lesson for you in the cattle; We give you to drink of what is in their bellies—from betwixt the feces and the blood—pure milk, easy and agreeable to swallow for those who drink. (Koran 16:66, Shakir)

Allah has given you a place to abide in your houses, and He has given you tents of the skins of cattle which you find light to carry on the day of your march and on the day of your halting, and of their wool and their fur and their hair (He has given you) household stuff and a provision for a time. (Koran 16:80, Shakir)

However, the only diets that are forbidden are “what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other (name) than (that of) Allah has been invoked” (Koran 2:173, Shakir), so a vegetarian diet, made out of personal choice or medical necessity, is not haraam either.

As for the health aspects of vegetarianism, they can be quite deceptive. If you can manage to get a really well-designed diet going (and it has to be well-designed in more than just theory, since every human body is different), and keep to it consistently, then it may possibly improve your health, but the task is easier said than done. I’ve tried it myself.

The philosophy behind moral vegetarianism has always been quizzical to me. The idea behind it is to spare living things, but it only results in more living things from a different kingdom being killed instead. Plants are living things too: do these folks simply forget this, or do they discriminate against a plant, thinking it has less right to live than an animal? I say it makes no difference, and so you may as well follow your omnivorous nature.

 

[sabr*]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Yahya Sulaiman:

Can you take the time to read all of my posts regarding this thread to gain some clarity. No one in this thread promoted or made statements that meat is haram. Reread all my posts.

 

[Woodrow]

Being or not being a vegetarian has no need to become a Religious issue. Unless the person is purporting it to be a commandment to be or that meat was haram. If it is halal to eat something, feel free to eat, it makes no difference if it is meat or vegetable. Halal is halal.

 

[sabr*]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Shabir Ally view on Muslims observing a vegan diet.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YdSor9fZRY&feature=related

 

[sabr*]

Vegan dishes!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Can we post actual vegan meals we prepared.

(Please post your own photos of the vegan dishes not internet pics)

Real dishes and detail the recipe. Insha Allah

Baked Falafel (Really Chickpea Patties)

The baked Falafel is crunchy on the outside but not like a fried Falafel. (Honesty)

Prep Time: 5 minutes
Cook Time: 20 minutes
Total Time: 25 minutes

Ingredients:

• 1 15-19 oz can chickpeas, drained
• 1 small onion, chopped
• 2 cloves of garlic, chopped
• 1 tablespoons of fresh parsley, chopped
• 2 tablespoons all purpose flour
• 1 teaspoon coriander
• 1 teaspoon cumin
• 1/2 teaspoon baking powder
• salt and pepper
• 2 tablespoons olive oil

Drizzle olive oil evenly in shallow baking dish. Preheat oven to 350.

While oven is preheating, mash chickpeas with mortar and pestle or in food processor. Add onions and garlic and blend.

Add remaining ingredients to make a thick paste-like consistency.

Shape into ping pong size balls and place in preheated baking dish. Bake for 15-20 minutes, turning halfway through cooking.
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[sabr*]

manaal;
"Baba Ghanoush" - a creamy broiled eggplant dip with lemon and parsley is lovely with toasted pita bread. I have tried but haven't made it my self. If I do, I'd add some thinly sliced green chillies and red onions to ad some kick to it. Ahhhh................

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

manaal:

Insha Allah I will eat this dish this week. Very appetizing.

 

[أحمد]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Shabir Ally view on Muslims observing a vegan diet.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YdSor9fZRY&feature=related

The speaker gives an interesting view on permissibility of eating meat, balanced with its cruelty level. It is OK to be a vegetarian, as long as the deen isn't dragged into such matters to compare how we can be less cruel by being vegetarians than those who eat meat.

"Benefits of vegetarian diets" is a better way of thinking for anyone going for such a diet, rather than trying to point out cruelties of eating meat. We have to keep in mind that if a diet is cruel or wrong in any manner; Allah knows everything far better than we do, and He doesn't permit cruelty, yet He permits eating meat.

Please try to refrain from bringing deen into this vegetarian matter.

Other than that, keeping the topic on the benefits of vegetables; you have presented some interesting information. Some of it we may agree upon, while some we may not.

As for what is better or worse from an Islamic view; we are given a clear example in the Quran. See 2:57-61.

Diet shouldn't be about competing against the cruelty of eating meats, nor based on the type of attitude as that of Bani Israel. We should be thankful to Allah for what He has given us, rather than trying to persuade each other that a meat diet is animal cruelty. We have to remember at least that eating meat is a Sunah of Rasoolullah :saws1:

:wa:

 

[أحمد]

Nutritional information gives us a rough idea of the benefits of certain foods, as well as providing some understanding to the minimum and maximum amounts of certain nutrients required for a "moderately healthy" diet.

Nutrition Information for Peas:

The following nutrition information is for one serving of peas. That would be about one cup of peas, or 145 grams. This general information is for any variety of raw peas.

Macronutrients:
Water: 114.35 g
Calories: 117
Protein: 7.86 g
Carbohydrates: 20.97 g
Fiber: 7.4 g
Sugars: 8.22 g
Total Fat: 0.58 g
Saturated Fat: 0.103 g
Monounsaturated Fat: 0.0501 g
Polyunsaturated Fat: 0.271 g
Cholesterol: 0 mg

Micronutrients:
Calcium: 36 mg
Iron: 2.13 mg
Magnesium: 48 mg
Phosphorus: 157 mg
Potassium: 354 mg
Sodium: 7 mg
Zinc: 1.80 mg
Vitamin C: 58.0 mg
Thiamin: 0.386 mg
Riboflavin: 0.191 mg
Niacin: 3.030 mg
Pantothenic Acid: 0.151 mg
Vitamin B6: 0.245 mg
Vitamin B12: 0 mcg
Folate: 94 mcg
Vitamin A: 1109 IU
Vitamin E: 0.19 mg
Vitamin K: 36.0 mcg

Phytonutrients:
beta Carotene: 651 mcg
beta Cryptoxanthin: 0 mcg
Lycopene: 0 mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin: 3592 mcg

:wa:

 

[Beardo]

I've been considering vegeterianism, but I probably can't do that until I begin to live on my own. Parents' rules, after all.

though, did you know the average American consumes 20X more meat than an average Japanese person?

 

[sabr*]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Ahmed Waheed:

agreed!

 

[أحمد]

though, did you know the average American consumes 20X more meat than an average Japanese person?

I know the average American consumes too much meat and "junk food", but I haven't researched on the exact figures.

A quarter of the world eats too much, while the other three quarters are left with very little or nothing. Allah teaches us the importance of balance; clearly there's little or no balance in practice here.

:wa:

 

[Beardo]

^ So true. For example, three square meals is more than enough. Yet, I'm going to go eat ice cream right now because it's super hot. Not necessary. Cold water would suffice. Yet, I choose ice cream.

 

[Yanal]

I've been considering vegeterianism, but I probably can't do that until I begin to live on my own. Parents' rules, after all.

though, did you know the average American consumes 20X more meat than an average Japanese person?

They eat more rice,but good fact.

I am not a vegetarian but I have pondered on about that occasionally.

 

[manaal]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

manaal:

Insha Allah I will eat this dish this week. Very appetizing.

Find recipe here.

 

[manaal]

^ So true. For example, three square meals is more than enough. Yet, I'm going to go eat ice cream right now because it's super hot. Not necessary. Cold water would suffice. Yet, I choose ice cream.

Have some pro-biotic yoghurt instead.