Atheism is a mental illness

[M.I.A.]

I found this trending video..

explains the irrationality and narrow mindedness of people..

people are not mentally I'll!

they are just missing the obvious.. applies to both thiests and atheists..

because you would have to be nuts to follow these guys.

tables, ladders and chairs match.

https://youtu.be/8S1_m-aPz4M

 

[Serinity]

On the same serious note, a year or so ago I began to explore my atheism by setting down in essay form what I think and why I think I think that way. It's grown to 5-1/2 pages and remains a work-in-progress.

I now (I think) understand why you guys are atheists. you don't understand miracles, and I understand why.
If someone says something they need to bring proof, otherwise it is labelled falsehood or something someone made up.

I think taking a more objective approach, to God Himself, would be good.

But atheism is based on immense ignorance, and/or self-denial, and/or lack of reflecting. I think atheists are immensly indoctrated in schools.

History is immensly based on assumptions too. And the origin of interaction and language is too.

Be objective, critical, AND reflective.

 

[noraina]

This type of approach is only going to cause negativity. Sometimes it comes across as a weakness in one's own convictions if you have to insult someone else's views to make your own seem right. Blanket statements like this don't exactly come under constructive disagreement or even attempting respectful discussion.

For the most part, atheism is not a mental illness. I think Islam makes it quite clear that disbelief is a conscious decision, a choice, and someone who was once an athiest or didn't believe has the choice to become a Muslim or not - if they had no choice it would be a great injustice, and Allah swt is completely Just. I'm quite sure in Shariah someone who is truly mentally ill is not accountable for their actions.

There are, of course, spiritual diseases of the heart, which are utterly different, like unbelief, hypocrisy, jealousy, anger, which can afflict anyone.

Allah swt knows best.

 

[sister herb]

Their behavior online gives us an insight into their mental health and it clearly isn't healthy, we can deduce this with the emotional rants and hateful things they spew about any who do not share their views.

Well, we could say same also about some religious people (against the atheists).

 

[Abz2000]

Double post

 

[Abz2000]

One would need to look into the ways of life in which people self medicate and numb themselves from clear thinking via alcohol, drugs, and anti-depressants i.e intoxicants.

Which societies is this practice most widespred in?
Ask yourself why?
Stress and the feeling of the need to escape from clear thought manifests from two scenarios that i can think of - being abused or used, economically beaten, and feeling the need to go soma coma due to helplessness (escapism, ptsd), or
from becoming spiritually self corrupted and descending into a spiral of decadence and emptyness where normality becomes a void.

Now check if such willing self-intoxication is more powerfully manifested in societies where what Allah calls satanism is prominent, or in monotheistic societies where God takes priority and is remembered and obeyed regularly.

Sad thing is that these stats are available and well known to the very people who feed you the news, mentioning decadence with a smile accompanied with elating and positive words, and decency with a frown accompanied by words and sounds which invoke fear, dread, and negativity, and this is an attack on the psyche and soul of the individual who is unable to process, rationalize and file concepts correctly.

There is a very good reason why the prophet pbuh advised us to repeat factual statements about Allah constantly, it writes and rewrites data on the brain and brings it back to straight and clear thought even during a subconcious attack whilst dreaming, watching a tv debate, a movie or sitcom, or skewed news report.

Going through the choice of words of certain article writers carefully should show a person howmagnet like negativity and positivity can be induced simply via difficulty and ease of sentence structuring.
One can tie a persons brain in knots and cause confusion and negative pulses just through choice of grammar, and induce comfort, ease, satisfaction and endorphin release with the same - without anything being obviously apparent to the reader.

Look carefully and you'll see.

 

[Serinity]

I find it ironic that atheistic societies emphasises critical thinking etc. but when it comes to school, and biology, they are never critical like they are with religion. They make assumptions in regards to our origin, how we got language. They never stop to think how this came to be. And if they do, they never get another layer deeper.

 

[aamirsaab]

Why is this thread still opened? Really, aetheism is a mental illness?

I swear, some of you guys are so completely out of touch it is unbelievable....

 

[jabeady]

It sounds as if you might be more agnostic, rather than an atheist.

Whatever. I've also been called a soft atheist and an agnostic atheist. Personally, I prefer Unbeliever. I shy away from any association with the so-called New Atheism, which is virtually undistinguishable from religion in general, with its own rigid dogma and unreasoning prejudices.

 

[Serinity]

may Allah :swt: guide all disbelievers. Ameen.

I feel sorry for them, what if I was one? How would I feel?

 

[M.I.A.]

Whatever. I've also been called a soft atheist and an agnostic atheist. Personally, I prefer Unbeliever. I shy away from any association with the so-called New Atheism, which is virtually undistinguishable from religion in general, with its own rigid dogma and unreasoning prejudices.

I think belief is a choice..

why should any follow blindly?

on any topic?

the world has presented a new misdirection for those still on the fence..

it is the expanding of the word atheism and all you can attach to it..

most people would see you bow just so they could get a leg up..

Maybe it is better for people not to be so submissive to what people want.

why spend your money, time, effort.. your life..

on people who are.. unjust..

What's a label?

not all athiests are created equal.

 

[jabeady]

but there IS a cure to every illness. The cure for spiritual and mental illness is the Qur'an. It can cure all disease afaik, but we do not have the level of Imaan to do that.

Allahu alam.

This sounds an awful lot like Scientology. In this respect, Scientology has the advantage, since they can point to their e-meter readings as physical evidence that belief in Scientology cures mental illness.

So, do I go with Islam, which claims to cure mental illness, or with Scientology, which seems to have the results plain for all to see in black and white?

 

[M.I.A.]

This sounds an awful lot like Scientology. In this respect, Scientology has the advantage, since they can point to their e-meter readings as physical evidence that belief in Scientology cures mental illness.

So, do I go with Islam, which claims to cure mental illness, or with Scientology, which seems to have the results plain for all to see in black and white?

Im sure you will make up your own mind in due time.


..at least you didn't pick the matrix as inspiration.


this is the nth time we have made this thread, we are becoming rather efficient at it..

badly paraphrased.

 

[jabeady]

It can certainly degenerate into one. Imagine that atheism leads you to rejecting Divine Law and gives you the idea that promiscuous sex would be ok, and that this behaviour then degenerates into severe sexual diseases. At that point, there would certainly be a clearly-established relationship between having syphilis and atheism, I would think. The question then becomes whether atheism will always lead to physical -or mental diseases? Will atheism always snowball into a set of mental and/or bodily defects? Possibly. However, confirming or infirming this, would require access to the medical theory of everything. Hence, it cannot be tested scientifically. Hence, it has the status of a belief, that is untestable, but sounds quite plausible. You can believe it, but you clearly don't have to.

So, not only am I impotent, but syphilitic as well. Oh, and mentally ill. Is there anything else? You've left out gonorrhea, inguinale and herpes.

 

[Serinity]

:bism:

In shaa' Allah (God willing) with the help of Allah :swt:, I will be able to answer your question.

This sounds an awful lot like Scientology. In this respect, Scientology has the advantage, since they can point to their e-meter readings as physical evidence that belief in Scientology cures mental illness.

So, do I go with Islam, which claims to cure mental illness, or with Scientology, which seems to have the results plain for all to see in black and white?

scientiology has just made "science" a religion for them.

OTOH, Islam does not defy/deny science, rather it affirms. Allah :swt: says, He :swt: for every disease He :swt: created, He :swt: created a cure.

Science is observation of the physical / mental./ this world/universe. Islam encourages the Muslims to seek knowledge, and to go out and see what Allah :swt: has created of every noble kind.

Scientiology (assuming from the name) is just being like "lets make technology a religion" "With technology we can DISCOVER illnesses."

Science is a tool, to be able to observe the universe etc. Is a blessing Allah :swt: gave us, so isn't it more befitting that you submit to Allah :swt: Creator of the All, AND study science, than study what Allah :swt: has created, while denying His religion/and Him?

Scientiology does NOT cure illness in and of itself. Ultimately, it is ALLAH that cures the disease, only by Allah's will can one be cured. They are using the means of what Allah has provided for them, to cure themselves.

Allah is the provider, the creator of everything, so ultimately, wouldn't it be better to join the religion of Allah, the creator of all disease and cure?

For an anology:

Imagine you have a syringe. This syringe has some fancy medicine derived from a plant. Ultimately the doctor who attained that medicine took from what Allah :swt: has created. Would you join the group that says "we can cure all illnesses with what Allah has created" or "Allah has sent down/created a cure for every disease, which is available if we search within Allah's creation, with the help of Allah"

One group is denying Allah while thinking of themselves self-sufficient and independent to cure themselves, ignoring the fact that it is by the will of Allah, the other acknowledges Allah, and that it is Allah that created the cure.

Islam does not deny science, it affirms, and it encourages one to learn. A tool to better our lives.

Scientiology: claims to use science to find disease, yet denies Allah. Unacknowledging of the favours of Allah, and attributing their success to themselves/science. *which I feel is shirk* any scholar can confirm.

Islam: Affirms science, and says that Allah created all cure and disease, and that we can use science to search for cure, while acknowledging Allah.


Allahu alam.

 

[M.I.A.]

to some point, we all see the worldly benefits. although Islam has a totally separate ideology that still has belief in the unseen.

for instance a person can easily say that the command of eating with the right hand confers cleanliness and minimises the chances of disease..

especially for those who do not have the resources to maintain a constant level of cleanliness.

as does using the left hand for things that are unclean.

but I just made that up!

100% sure there is more to it than that.

not 100% keen on an only science approach.

 

[Serinity]

to some point, we all see the worldly benefits. although Islam has a totally separate ideology that still has belief in the unseen.

for instance a person can easily say that the command of eating with the right hand confers cleanliness and minimises the chances of disease..

especially for those who do not have the resources to maintain a constant level of cleanliness.

as does using the left hand for things that are unclean.

but I just made that up!

100% sure there is more to it than that.

not 100% keen on an only science approach.

Tbh, I find it arrogant to rely on science while ignoring the Creator. Like seriously.

 

[jabeady]

:bism:
Scientiology (assuming from the name) is just being like "lets make technology a religion" "With technology we can DISCOVER illnesses."

Umm... No.

Where to begin? Trying to explain Scientology to someone is like trying to explain Mormonism. In fact, the two have a lot in common. You could even say that Mormonism is Scientology without the rocket ships. Really.

 

[Serinity]

Umm... No.

Where to begin? Trying to explain Scientology to someone is like trying to explain Mormonism. In fact, the two have a lot in common. You could even say that Mormonism is Scientology without the rocket ships. Really.

well searching up in google it was invented by an American. Not the truth. Search for God, and you will understand the obvious.

Anything in terms of religion, that comes from the imaginations/desires of man is false, i.e. claiming something from oneself without proof. Truth comes from God alone.

 

[M.I.A.]

Tbh, I find it arrogant to rely on science while ignoring the Creator. Like seriously.

well that's the irony.. similar concepts of wellbeing have always been present..throughout history.

..although all have done the best they can with the knowledge that has been present at the time..

moving backwards will probably not help. or maybe it will.. I don't know.

although prevention is better than cure is just an intention really.


...although I have met people that can give you high blood pressure.. and worse.

I'm not sure how it works yet.

I should take a nap.