Attack on Israel will destroy Iran

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AntiKarateKid said:
Hah. The day Israel destroys even a single sacred mosque will be its last day. They wouldn't be facing just a few nations, that is an attack on a religion, a religion of over a billion. That day, even I would be forced to donn the weapons of armed resistance.

If Israel destroyed sacred Hindu, Sikh, or Christian sites, I would expect the same angry resistance.

Like we have discussed in may many threats. Islam is not about violence. Quite the contrary. BUT when Israel opens a war on our religion. That shifts our obligatory Jihad from being verbal and scholarly resistance to actual armed resistance.

Am I right brothers and sisters?
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It's just to do this, It's like a country is attacked, you set the army loose! Same goes for religious conflicts. Hindu Gov launched an attack on the Akal Tahkt, Sikh Parliment launched near the Golden Temple in Amritsar. indira gandhi payed with her life!

Snake, I don't think we should give up our nukes. We need them, and any country that desires them, well so be it in my opnion! :D
 
Ivehadmedinnerdad hasnt actually got em yet, but instead of saying "We will use the nuclear capabilitys to defend our nation as a last resort of like-attack from our enemies"
He simply cackles a bit, threatens to wipe Israel off the map, then checks on his pool of sharks.
 
barney said:
Ivehadmedinnerdad hasnt actually got em yet, but instead of saying "We will use the nuclear capabilitys to defend our nation as a last resort of like-attack from our enemies"
He simply cackles a bit, threatens to wipe Israel off the map, then checks on his pool of sharks.
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Can you read Farsi? If so, can you translate what Ahmedinjad actually said? Because waht you read (and the rest) was a biased translation by the yanks! - Find me the exact line where he states he'll wipe ISREAL off the map!

I'll be here in the corner sipping my tea :D
 
Assumming that even if he did say that he was going to wipe Israel off the map... not to sound childish but Jews do say worse... Muslims are coccroaches etc,

At least we have an obligation to respect their religion.
The Jewish propaganda really surprises me. For a people so proud of their history, it amazes me that they could equate Muslims with their ultimate enemies. Didnt Muslim rulers acccept Jews into their countries while CHristians persecuted them? We were the ones who gave them homes. We, unlike the Nazis never tried to exterminate them. Yet here we are. Being anti- israeli, a county that is not even supposed to exist due to the status of Jews being "exiled in their own Torah, is suddenly anti semitic. ANd Muslims are suddenly the root of all evil. Ironic.


Case in point. I asked a rabbi straight up if Israel is supposed to exist according to the Torah. HE said not really but there is nothing that Jews can do now except ait for the messaih. I was dumbfounded.


" Hey guys lets steal this land for false religious reasons and refuse to negotiate until our messiah comes... oh and Muslims are evil"

R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D, felt like roughing taht guy up i swear...
 
^^ He said ZIONISTS, not Isrealis! - That's where the 'error' is made, if in fact it was an error.
 
AntiKarateKid said:
Hah. The day Israel destroys even a single sacred mosque will be its last day.
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I wish it would have the case, but in reality we have already seen massive bombardment of shiite holy shrines in Iraq by coalition forces and suprisingly Iran and Syria didn't react, since both were busy consolidating their gains after Saddam Regime.

As of today, I don't expect any war between Iran and Israel. What we are witnessing is exchange of political statements only.
 
Muslim on Muslim violence is wierdly less of a powerderkeg as Israel destroying shrines.

When an outsider destroyes something sacred to shiites and sunnis, it is all going down from there. Besides compare the current violence in Iraq, only Muslim against Muslim, what would hold us back against non Muslims if they did commit such aggression?
 
There will be no war between Israel and Iran. Israel alone can't afford to launch a full scale offensive against Iran w/o US asistance. The US is not in a position to make available resources for another war, being already in a messed up situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Despite repeated requests from field commanders, they couldn't meet the requirements in Afghanistan. For attacking Iran, they have to pull out considerable forces from Iraq, which they can't afford. Despite all that, if they still decide to go over Iran, that would be a suicidal mission, keeping in view pro-Iran govts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Their bases, especially in Iraq would be extremely vulnerable.

The existing state of US economy is bleak, in such situation how can they think of initiating another war?
 
ahsan28 said:
I wish it would have the case, but in reality we have already seen massive bombardment of shiite holy shrines in Iraq by coalition forces and suprisingly Iran and Syria didn't react, since both were busy consolidating their gains after Saddam Regime.
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I suspect it was far more to do with the fact that such "massive bombardment" of Shi'ite holy shrines "by coalition forces" is a total fantasy.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
And that'll settle the matter do you think?
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Settle the matter? For all intents and purposes...meaning Iran's ability to threaten Israel by conventional military means..plus the country of Iran would be decimated, in terms of both the economy and the infrastructure. Could Iran send some terrorist out to try to blow stuff up...of course. That is expected.
 
barney said:
Ivehadmedinnerdad hasnt actually got em yet, but instead of saying "We will use the nuclear capabilitys to defend our nation as a last resort of like-attack from our enemies"
He simply cackles a bit, threatens to wipe Israel off the map, then checks on his pool of sharks.
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PROOF IT! I would have to say our mainstream media has done a great job in brainwashing people. Hurray to Yanks.

Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ

Rabbi Weiss clarifies media lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQY60tN9yL8
 
Izyan said:
Ummm no. It has been long established that Syria and Iran has had an alliance for a while now. Which is rare because here it is portrayed that the Sunni nations don't exactly care for the Shia Iran.
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Arab was against Iran for some reasons, but only before 1980. Now, Iran is seen as a pillar of resistance against US & Co. by the Arabs.
 
I used to think highly of Iran.. but most of the Iranians I have met, leave very little to be desired.. they have never gotten over their empire of their pagan practices.. just recently I have seen a bunch of 'Muslim' iranians celebrate their pagan new year which conincided with easter.. they still speak of Muslims as if they've invaded and pillaged them instead of bringing them enlightenment and monotheism..mind you this is by the so-called Muslims themseleves... I was/am very disappointed.. I hope these were isolated cases of indulgent Iranians outside of Iran, but for some reason I doubt it...
At this stage I'll state, that only Allah swt knows whom his righteous servants are.. and I don't believe any thing done for show with an overt of covert agenda will deflect from that...
Sobhan Allah..

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Eve Persephone said:
I used to think highly of Iran.. but most of the Iranians I have met, leave very little to be desired.. they have never gotten over their empire of their pagan practices.. just recently I have seen a bunch of 'Muslim' iranians celebrate their pagan new year which conincided with easter.. they still speak of Muslims as if they've invaded and pillaged them instead of bringing them enlightenment and monotheism..mind you this is by the so-called Muslims themseleves... I was/am very disappointed.. I hope these were isolated cases of indulgent Iranians outside of Iran, but for some reason I doubt it...
At this stage I'll state, that only Allah swt knows whom his righteous servants are.. and I don't believe any thing done for show with an overt of covert agenda will deflect from that...
Sobhan Allah..

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Eve Persephone I think that it has soemthing to do with the nature of arabic/islamic conquest that hapenned to Iran. As religion islam spread peacefully in Maghreb and for exmaple Indonesia/Malaysia, muslims there dont have such anti-arabic sentiments. But in Iran it wasnt just peacefully as i read. Besides, Persians had great civilization since thousands years ago, and I guess that they must have had some inventions and contributions before the era of Arabs' appearence. This is one of the reason why they decided to follow shiism, to dividee themselves form the rest of Middle East.
 
Aaron85 said:
But in Iran it wasnt just peacefully as i read.
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Remember, it's called Arab Conquests not Islamic conquests. Islam spread through Arab conquests just like Christianity spread thorough European colonization in some areas.
 
Aaron85 said:
Eve Persephone I think that it has soemthing to do with the nature of arabic/islamic conquest that hapenned to Iran. As religion islam spread peacefully in Maghreb and for exmaple Indonesia/Malaysia, muslims there dont have such anti-arabic sentiments. But in Iran it wasnt just peacefully as i read. Besides, Persians had great civilization since thousands years ago, and I guess that they must have had some inventions and contributions before the era of Arabs' appearence. This is one of the reason why they decided to follow shiism, to dividee themselves form the rest of Middle East.
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Has to do with their nature more than anything...Egypt, Iraq, Samaria, Mesopotamia etc etc all had great civilization that extended for centuries, and they have welcomed Islam with open arms.. being from that part of the world and having many Iranian friends, I can see great disparity on how Iranians practice religion vs. their middle eastern counterparts.. even if I find the most religious and correctly practicin to be reverts, there is something essential that is missing in Iranians.. I am not knocking Iran or Iranians down... the mere fact that they practice Islam slightly askew (shiites) is in and of itself very telling ..

peace
 
Ivehadmedinnerdad diddnt say "wipe israel off the map", he simply agrees with that notion and the Ayatolla saying it.
Its like Hitler saying "Exterminate the jews" and a BNP facist agreeing with it.
I wouldnt give Hitler nukes and i wouldnt give the BNP them either.
I can see irans need for fuel for power stations. it must be hard being so fuel starved and desperate for some way to fuel their need for electrical power. If only someone could invent something like oil powered stations they could use Oil, they have a splash of that stuff lying about.

From Wiki.

Ahmadinejad's phrase was " بايد از صفحه روزگار محو شود " according to the text published on the President's Office's website.[11]

The translation presented by IRIB has been challenged by Mr. Arash Norouzi, who proposes that the statement "wiped off the map" was never made and that Ahmadinejad did not refer to the nation or land mass of Israel, but to the "regime and Zionists occupying Jerusalem". However, the Iatollah did say that Isreael should be wiped off the map and Ahmadinejad did agree with this sentiment. He says that the Iranian government News Agency IRIB/IRNA translation is the source of the myth:

One may wonder: where did this false interpretation originate? Who is responsible for the translation that has sparked such worldwide controversy? The answer is surprising. The inflammatory 'wiped off the map' quote was first disseminated not by Iran's enemies, but by Iran itself. The Islamic Republic News Agency, Iran's official propaganda arm, used this phrasing in the English version of some of their news releases covering the World Without Zionism conference. International media including the BBC, Al Jazeera, Time magazine and countless others picked up the IRNA quote and made headlines out of it without verifying its accuracy, and rarely referring to the source. Iran's Foreign Minister soon attempted to clarify the statement, but the quote had a life of its own. Though the IRNA wording was inaccurate and misleading, the media assumed it was true, and besides, it made great copy
 
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