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Attention those with religion “other’

There are writers on the Islamic board who write in place of religion “Other”. From their statement it appears that they believe in Allah and that they have respect for the Holy Quraan. But they don’t write religion Islam. They may be Unitarians ( those who believe in the Oneness of God but they don’t believe in Muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him) as the Final Messenger of Allah. So they don’t accept Islam as their religion. They consider the prophets good teachers.

I advise them sincerely to enter the fold of Islam in full and do believe in all of the Prophets from Adam to the Muhammad صلى الله عليهم والسلام ) ). Do this without losing a second because death may overtake a person any time and then he/she shall not have any chance to make up the loss. This life is the only chance to improve our faith and actions. The foremost is the faith and then is the full obedience of the Prophet Muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him).
Life will end suddenly and then the person without the faith and actions of Islam will be in terrible punishment for ever. He/she will regret thinking that he/she had reached the Truth so near but failed to accept it fully. Regretting shall be useless after death!!!!
 
Walaikumasalaam


Well said. Important message! Time awaits for no man. The opportunity is here and now.

May Allah swa help the non muslims and muslims strive for the sake of Allah swa alone.

May Allah swa keep the ummah united. May Allah swa keep us all steadfast through happiness, through sadness, through poverty, through wealth, with family, without family Ameen.
 
Walaikumasalaam

Well said. Important message! Time awaits for no man. The opportunity is here and now.

May Allah swa help the non muslims and muslims strive for the sake of Allah swa alone.

May Allah swa keep the ummah united. May Allah swa keep us all steadfast through happiness, through sadness, through poverty, through wealth, with family, without family Ameen.


May Allah accept all of your good du'aa, aameen, and jazaaki Allaho khera.
 
I cannot be part of Christianity or any religion that has shed blood, I'm not judging, but I believe every human life is gods, we have no right to destroy his creation, for we are not our own, we are his. One god, one truth, but no one sees, the two greatest commandments as spoken by Jesus, love your neighbor as your own flesh, and love The Lord your god with all your heart mind and strength. So god wants us to love one another, not to kill one another. All of the prophets call for love and obedience. I don't understand destroying gods creation, or hate, or evil. But god only wants us to love him and all others.
 
I cannot be part of Christianity or any religion that has shed blood, I'm not judging, but I believe every human life is gods, we have no right to destroy his creation, for we are not our own, we are his. One god, one truth, but no one sees, the two greatest commandments as spoken by Jesus, love your neighbor as your own flesh, and love The Lord your god with all your heart mind and strength. So god wants us to love one another, not to kill one another. All of the prophets call for love and obedience. I don't understand destroying gods creation, or hate, or evil. But god only wants us to love him and all others.

Not saying that Islam or Christians don't believe this but I love God and all his creation. For everything is his.
 
Not saying that Islam or Christians don't believe this but I love God and all his creation. For everything is his.

Hi Wllmdrg,

Welcome the forum!

That's right. We as Muslims, don't believe in any unlawful killing as well. It's actually one of the WORST things a human being can do. In our scriptures, we are clearly advised if we have saved ONE life, only one, we will be rewarded as though we have saved the whole of mankind and, also, if we have killed someone, it is like we have killed the whole of mankind. So this is a very serious crime that any Muslim can commit.

We believe in life and we also believe life comes from Allah (God), it is a trust that Allah (God) has bestowed upon us.

You might want to visit this website. I think my follow members will be bored of me copying this link but nevertheless, i love this website!

http://kalamullah.com/non-muslims.html

Read as much as you can, educate yourself because i believe truth only has one tongue.
 
You sound as if you are gods, love to you and blessings be upon you,may the true followers of the one who populates the world with spirits, the perfect one , god almighty , reward you sister.
 
I cannot be part of Christianity or any religion that has shed blood, I'm not judging, but I believe every human life is gods, we have no right to destroy his creation, for we are not our own, we are his. One god, one truth, but no one sees, the two greatest commandments as spoken by Jesus, love your neighbor as your own flesh, and love The Lord your god with all your heart mind and strength. So god wants us to love one another, not to kill one another. All of the prophets call for love and obedience. I don't understand destroying gods creation, or hate, or evil. But god only wants us to love him and all others.

Peace,

In fact I had started this thread because I was and am worried about all human beings and I want us and them all to be protected from Hell which is a very bad place to go to. There every one shall cry continuously and shall have no way of escape. They will regret but in vain.


Faith/ belief is the very basic thing which shall be questioned about during the Accounting. After that will be the turn of actions. Everyone shall be accounted individually and anyone who is questioned shall not have any refuge.


Allah Almighty God has chosen for all of us/mankind only one religion which is Islam, and Almighty God Allah has clearly informed us that Allah shall not accept any religion other than Islam. Now if your ideas are, maasha Allah, so good and Islamic then what is the hindrance in accepting Islam your religion? If you think that many people with religion Islam and Christianity are doing blood shed and therefore you want to keep away from Islam which is a true and the only religion acceptable to God, then this is a big mistake for which you will regret (May Allah protect us and you from regretting on that very Hard Day)! The blood shed which is done by the people is not due to their religion. Rather it is because they are practically far away from the religion.

You, being sincere for others, have to be very sincere for yourself and must try to protect yourself from Hell. For that purpose you must take Bible and the Holy Quraan side by side and try to read and understand their meaning and explanation. Surely Bible which is a combination of the Gospel (Injeel), Psalm (Zaboor) and the Tawrah, is divine because these component books were all sent down by Almighty God to the Prophets عليهم السلام but these are changed by people and thus are not in the original form. It is only the Holy Quraan which is preserved by Almighty God for the guidance of all mankind till the end of this world. When read it, you will, insha Allah, know its truth and its Divine nature by yourself. So try to choose the correct religion as soon as possible because death is expected to come any time. Therefore don't lose this chance and try to die as Muslim.
 
You sound as if you are gods, love to you and blessings be upon you,may the true followers of the one who populates the world with spirits, the perfect one , god almighty , reward you sister.

I hope you meant 'you sound as if you are good' and not god's?

We believe in one God and we're the creation of the creator.

This is Islam

Islam means “submission to God”. Islam is the belief that there is only One God, whose proper name is Allah, which means “ the God”. Islam is the same message given to all the prophets, from Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and finally to the Prophet Muhammad, the last messenger (peace and blessings be upon them). They all brought the same message: worship only God, and stop worshipping human beings and their ideas.

For more info please visit: -
http://kalamullah.com/non-muslims.html
 
The truth is I have been praying for months strait, and while I now know the truth, these truths many will not accept.
We are the creation of the father of all spirits as Enoch proclaimed his name. Our Lord said I am that i am, in this all should be clear, god is everything, and being the father of all spirits, he has made you. You are all his children, and all he wants for us is to have faith and love in him, and show servitude, Love,Temperance, and faith in all his creation, there is no true religion on the earth other than the pieces that Islam,Christian,and Judism have, Given does not want us to be burdened by tradition, but to be free of Hatered And Fear. For god is perfect without flaw, while the truth of the word has been burdened by Tradition in all religions, then even the prophets of god had flaws as all men have flaws, the only one that had the flawless and noble position to show how god is, is Jesus the Anointed one of god.
 
The truth is I have been praying for months strait, and while I now know the truth, these truths many will not accept.
We are the creation of the father of all spirits as Enoch proclaimed his name. Our Lord said I am that i am, in this all should be clear, god is everything, and being the father of all spirits, he has made you. You are all his children, and all he wants for us is to have faith and love in him, and show servitude, Love,Temperance, and faith in all his creation, there is no true religion on the earth other than the pieces that Islam,Christian,and Judism have, Given does not want us to be burdened by tradition, but to be free of Hatered And Fear. For god is perfect without flaw, while the truth of the word has been burdened by Tradition in all religions, then even the prophets of god had flaws as all men have flaws, the only one that had the flawless and noble position to show how god is, is Jesus the Anointed one of god.

Hi Wllmdrg,

Hope this message finds you in good health!

Have you had a chance to visit the above link?

I HIGHLY recommend this website as it will offer a different perspective on what you believe to be true.

There's a very good book called The True Message of Jesus Christ which may interest you.

Wish you the best
 
We are the creation of the father of all spirits as Enoch proclaimed his name.

God is not a father, uncle, brother, nephew, cousin or any kind of human relation. He is High Exalted above that. As sister BeTheChange already stated, God is the Creator, and we are His creation. We are not His children.

god is everything

No, God is separate from his creation, and is above the heavens. He has knowledge of everything at all times, but He is not things, in things, nor everything, nor everywhere. This is how the people start mixing up the Creator with His creation.

father of all spirits
You are all his children

As I mentioned, God is not a father, nor has any children. He is not like a human. He is high exalted above us in any way.

There is only One God. He alone should be worshipped. He is our Creator, Sustainer, and Lord.

He does not beget, nor is He begotten. He has no sons, daughters, spouses, siblings, parents, cousins, or relatives of any sort.

He is eternal and does not die. He does not depend on anyone/anything yet we all depend on Him. He is free of all want and need.

There is nothing like Him. He is all Hearing, all Seeing, all Knowing, all Powerful, Incomparable, the Creator of the Universe.

He did not/does not, become flesh, dwell in human or animal bodies, nor are there any incarnations of Him. He is not mixed up in His creation in any way.

He is not composed of persons, nor a trinity. There are no secondary, lesser, greater, equal, or multiple gods, nor any intermediaries. And no denying of God's existence either.

There are no sharers, associates, persons or parts whatsoever in His exclusive Divinity. Simply, He is One, in every sense.

As you can see, the concept is clear, simple, logical, makes sense, and befits the Majesty of God.

all he wants for us is to have faith and love in him, and show servitude, Love,Temperance, and faith in all his creation, there is no true religion on the earth other than the pieces that Islam,Christian,and Judism have

Islam is the true religion. It is what all the messengers preached. Allah sent all the prophets (including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, peace on them all) with the same message and not different messages. The message was: to submit wholeheartedly to Allah and worship Him and Him alone, without any associates in, or parts to, His Exclusive Divinity, and to obey the prophet. They taught that people should be under no misperception that they can commit themselves to Allah as their Lord, and then combine this with accepting others as their Lord, or associating others in His Divinity, in whatever way. They taught that we should strive hard to translate our belief in the One True God into practice, by obeying Allah and the messengers He sent, who were also role models and examples for us, showing us practically how to put the guidance they were sent with into practice in our daily lives, explaining the scriptures, warning against wrong-doing, giving good tidings, and giving additional legislation from Allah.

So Islam is not a new faith, but is the same ultimate universal truth that God revealed to all the prophets, including Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be on them), and the same thing they all taught. Thus Islam is not named after a specific person (like Christianity, Buddhism), nor after a certain race or place (like Judaism, Hinduism), but is named by God Himself, the meaning loosely translating as 'submission to God', which is what every Prophet and their righteous followers did, from amongst all times, places and peoples. That in itself is one fraction of the evidence that it was the way of all the Prophets from the beginning.

With time, the message got forgotten or corrupted. So people started worshipping other gods along with Him, made idols, said that God begot a son, said that certain people were incarnations of God, some rejected belief in God altogether, while others elevated the status of some prophets to divine, or at the other end, rejected or blasphemed some of the prophets. Whenever God's message got distorted by people, or forgotten, a new messenger was sent, not with any new or changed message, but reinforcing the actual message that God sent all the messengers with, the actual core beliefs that people were taught from the beginning of humanity, confirming the true parts of previous teachings and scriptures, and correcting wrong beliefs and misconceptions that had crept in. God required that whenever He sent a new messenger, that messenger should be followed along with any new scripture given to him. This chain of messengers culminates in prophet Muhammad (peace on him), who is the last and final prophet and messenger. Since his prophethood, God's message is available unchanged and unadulterated, for the entire world, until the end of time. He wasn't sent as prophet and messenger for a specific group of people and specific time (e.g. as Moses and Jesus were to the Children of Israel), but he was sent for all the world, for all time, until the Day of Judgement. Thus he is the last, not first, prophet of Islam; a messenger to all mankind, for now, and for all time to come. He is the messenger who must now be followed.

does not want us to be burdened by tradition, but to be free of Hatered And Fear.

We must obey God and the messengers he sent, the messenger for now being Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). This is not a burden. We should love God, but also fear Him, and obey Him.

the only one that had the flawless and noble position to show how god is, is Jesus the Anointed one of god.

We do not distinguish and make distinction between the messengers of God. We accept them all, and do not reject any of them, nor dishonour them, nor at the other end, turn them into gods. They were the purest and noblest of humanity.

In Islam, we do not believe in airy fairy things that seem nice to us or what we personally desire, but our faith is based on solid, untampered, preserved evidence from God Himself, in His own words, as to how He wants us to live and worship Him. And we invite you to that same truth, that Noah followed and preached, as did Abraham, and Jesus, and Moses, and Muhammad, peace be on them all

Translations of some verses of the Qur'an to finish:

O mankind, worship your Lord who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - (Translation of the Qur'an 2:21) "Indeed, I am Allah. There is no God but I, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance." (20:14)
And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me." (51:56)
"... And when guidance comes to you from Me, whoever follows My guidance, no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve." (2:38 part)

"Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is the straight path." (Spoken by Jesus. 3:51 , 19:36 and 43:64)
And say, "Praise be to Allah, who has no son and no partner in His Dominion..." (17:111 part)

...There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book, by which Allah guides those who seek His pleasure to the ways of peace, and brings them out from darkness into the light, by His will, and guides them to a straight path. (5:15, part, and 5:16)
Verily, this Qur'an guides to that which is Straightmost, and gives glad tidings to the believers who do good.. (17:9, part)

Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah , then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." Say, "Obey Allah and the Messenger." But if they turn away - then indeed, Allah does not like the disbelievers. (3:31-32)

Say: "We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us, and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants, and what was given to Moses and Jesus, and to [all] the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one and another of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)." And whosoever seeks as religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and he shall be in the hereafter, among the losers.(3:84, 85)
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam... (3:19, part)

Say, [O Muhammad], "O mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, [from He] to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and earth. There is no god except Him; He gives life and causes death." So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet,who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him that you may be guided. (7:158, part) ... Believe in Allah, His Messenger and the Book that He has revealed to His Messenger and the Scripture which He revealed before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah , His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray. (4:136, part)

Worship Allah exclusively, and do not associate others in His Divinity.. (4:36, part)
Nothing is said to you, [O Muhammad], except what was already said to the messengers before you. Indeed, your Lord is owner of forgiveness and owner of grievous chastisement. (41:43)

O Mankind! Call to mind the grace of Allah upon you! Is there a creator, other than Allah, to give you sustenance from heaven or earth? There is no god but He: how then are you turning away? (35:3)
O Mankind! It is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah is Free of wants, worthy of all praise. (35:15)
O Mankind! Certainly the promise of Allah is true. So let not this present life deceive you.. (35:5, part)

This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed.(14:52)
Say, "O mankind, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whoever is guided is only guided for [the good of] his soul, and whoever goes astray only goes astray to the detriment of it.." (10:108 part)
And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah. Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not be treated unjustly. (2:281)


As sister nbegam has already explained to you, you need to come to this truth, and obey God as He wants to be obeyed, not how you personally think He should be obeyed, and follow His last Messenger, so that you may be rightly guided.

People are encouraged to ponder and reflect, and re-evaluate and reassess the basis for your own beliefs and doctrines. And it is that to which all people are invited by the Qur'an. Your beliefs regarding God, and which faith you follow, are the biggest, most serious and most important decisions you will ever make, as this life will end one day for all of us, and our position regarding God and His messengers is what makes or breaks our hereafter, which is forever. You owe it to yourself, to not regret in the hereafter, when it'll be too late. Do not view Islam by media portrayals, nor by the actions of some Muslims, but by its message. Study it from its authentic sources and speak to sincere knowledgeable Muslims. We tend to be busy in our lives, but please make the time for it. It'll be the most important thing you ever do.

Peace.
 
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I know Mohammed was a prophet, so was Peter, and yes even Paul, but the way they where taught by the Messiah was faulted by their traditions, yes God wishes us to worship only him, but as I said, these truths might not be accepted by all who see them, I will say 1 more thing.

Though I am misunderstood, I will not waver.
Though they hate me, I Am Love.
Though they abuse me, I Am Temperance.
Though they insult me, I Am a Servant.
Though they fought me, I Am Cooperative.
Though He Absent, I Am with Faith.
This is The Way.

I will never say Islam is wrong, nor Christianity,nor Judiism,nor any other religion, unless they tech hate and selfishness, I will pray that all may come to the truth, God Bless you all.
 
Hi and welcome to IB forum Wllmdrg :) You're an interesting agnostic, with equally interesting views - some of which I have issues with, namely the following:

I know Mohammed was a prophet, so was Peter, and yes even Paul, but the way they where taught by the Messiah was faulted by their traditions,

Peter was no prophet. Neither was Paul. Peter was taught by Jesus pbuh, but Paul didn't even see Jesus, let alone know him. I'm sure you are aware that Paul was a pragmatist. As for Muhammad pbuh, he was not taught by Jesus pbuh, he was taught by God - through the arch angel Gabriel.

Just clearing up some confusions here. Peace bro.

Scimi
 
so was Peter, and yes even Paul,

No, they weren't prophets. Jesus (peace be on him) was.

I will never say Islam is wrong, nor Christianity,nor Judiism,nor any other religion, unless they tech hate and selfishness, I will pray that all may come to the truth, God Bless you all.

We pray that you come to the truth, the truth according to God, with solid evidences for mankind, not the truth according to Wllmdrg.

The scripture of Islam is the Qur'an, the very words revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him) via the angel Gabriel (peace be on him). It is a continuation, confirmation and culmination of the original message contained within previous scriptures, in its last and final and pristine form. The Final Testament. It is 100% the word of God, unlike the other scriptures that we have with us today, that have been changed by humans - thus it supersedes the previous scriptures, which are no longer valid to be followed.

It's message is for the entire world, until the world ends. It is because Allah has promised to preserve the Qur'an that there won't be any need for a new Prophet, because the message is, and will remain, intact. Thus it is fully preserved with no word in it coming from any human. It is 100% the word of God, unlike the other scriptures that we have with us today, that have been changed by humans. It has no versions or editions. Millions of people from all over the world have it memorised and they all recite word for word the same thing. It contains the central message as already described, and practical guidance on how to live, stories of previous prophets from which to learn lessons, warnings, rules, comfort, solace, good tidings, and in it God corrects misconceptions people may have about Him or His prophets. It tells us what has always been expected from humans since the beginning of time; what He told His prophets to teach people since the beginning. That message never changed. The essence of Islam is what always was, and has always been, the true and natural religion; the way of all the Prophets, the original and only message.

And we invite and urge you to come to Islam, and in doing so, you would be following automatically what Jesus and Moses (peace be on them both) truly preached, not what people made up that they preached. It is a great feeling to know you're following in the footsteps of the previous Prophets, and we invite you to join us in that.

Peace.
 
It is not truth according to me, but truth according to Enoch, the man god took because he was so righteous. But I have learned more since I have visited last, I will not lie to anyone, look up the mak of the beast from the internet, from the original manuscript, god has a name, but it is not what you think it is, I have researched not only Islam, but also older religuos beliefs, and the name for HVHY= Allah, if you do not believe me research for yourself, but I will no longer try to help, for you will wish to kill me, even though I come at you in love. The book of Enoch, jasher, and Jubilee is older than Islam, and Christianity, and Judaism. So Enoch the most upright man before Moses, would not lie. I pray that you find the truth. I will not judge you, but God will judge us all.
 
You all say god isn't like us, but he himself said, let's make man in our image, so we are like God, but flawed, God is like us but not flawed. Enoch has said we are Gods Spirits, I do not mean we are gods in the flesh as begotten children, please do not put words into my lips. Ishmael was Abrahams son, but So was Isaac, so to teach death to relatives is premeditated, and against the Ten Commandments of the Most High. Islam came about in 600 ad, Enoch wrote his books in, 2500BC about. That means The book of Enoch is a holy scripture. Read it, know it.
 
I do not know if all Muslims are taught, that to take a life is ok if they don't believe as you do, but if not then, those that do are making Islam seem to be a violent religon, and that is sad. Because most of you on here seem like really good people, and I do wish to see the best in all of God's Creation.
 
to Wllmdrg, you need to see that these people believe very strongly in their beliefs, you should respect them for those beliefs and stop pushing yours on others. Peace to the entire world.
 
I do not know if all Muslims are taught, that to take a life is ok if they don't believe as you do, but if not then, those that do are making Islam seem to be a violent religon, and that is sad. Because most of you on here seem like really good people, and I do wish to see the best in all of God's Creation.

In Islam, we are not advised to kill the 'bad' people. In fact, this is a HUGE sin in Islam. We value life and we view life as a gift from God. A gift which cannot be abused whether that's in the form of self-harm, psychological torture, physical harm, sucide or taking another human being's life. If someone was to attack us then of course we are allowed to defend ourselves.

“Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)


Let me share a very good historical story with you.


“Among those who came before you was a man who killed 99 people. He then asked to be guided to the most prolific worshipper from the inhabitants of the earth, and he was directed to a monk. He went to him and told him that he had killed 99 people, and he asked whether it was possible for him to repent. The monk said, ‘No.’ The man killed him, thus making him the 100th victim. He then asked to be directed to the most knowledgeable of the Earth’s inhabitants, and he was guided to a scholar. He went to him and told him that he had killed 100 people, and he asked whether it was possible for him to repent. The scholar said, ‘Yes, and who will stand between you and repentance. Go to such and such land, for in it dwell a people who worship Allah, so go and worship Allah with them. And do not return to your land, for it is indeed a land of evil.’ He left, and when he reached the halfway point of his journey, he died. The angels of Mercy and the angels of Punishment disputed with one another [in regard to his case]. The angels of Mercy said, ‘He came to us repentant, advancing with his heart towards Allah.’ The angels of Punishment said, ‘Indeed, he never performed any good deeds.’ Then an angel came in the form of a human being, and both groups of angels asked him to be the judge between them. He said, ‘Measure the distance between the two lands. Whichever land he is closer to is the land that he is closer to [in terms of being of its people]. They then measured the distance and found that he was closer to the land that he was heading towards, and so it was the angels of Mercy who then took his soul.”


[al-Bukhaari: 3470 ; Muslim: 2766]


This is one of the examples of Allah's MERCY on this man.

Whilst studying, i had to research the media's power and influence. Please have a brief read:-

Elites control what the public is allowed to see, hear and think about. The media serves as a propaganda tool for the elites. Political bias in the media is produced through suppression, emphasis, selection of context and setting the general agenda.

“It is much more difficult to see a propaganda system at work where the media are private and formal censorship is absent. This is especially true where the media actively compete, periodically attack and expose corporate and governmental malfeasance, and aggressively portray themselves as spokesman for free speech and the general community interest.” (Herman and Chomsky, 2001; 280).

Politicians, journalists and newsreaders who are quick to comment on Islam have no place to comment or interpret our religion as they haven't studied our religion. Even our scholars who are God fearing will research and research before they publish an official response. Never judge any religion by what you hear on the news.

'Bad' news sells and they only interested in making money. Publishing the truth is far from their checklist.


 

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