Attitudes on apostasy softening?

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aamirsaab said:
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I have no problems with apostates. What gets on my nerves is that these so called muslim apostates always seem to be so bitter about Islam. If I was to put my psychology hat on, I'd have a freakin field day with apostates - so much to write about!

You know what, one day I'ma write me a book!
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Perhaps that comes with the territory, when leaving Islam has caused the apostate hurt and grief?

Is it not all the more reason to treat apostates with love, respect and charity?
 
aamirsaab said:
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I have no problems with apostates. What gets on my nerves is that these so called muslim apostates always seem to be so bitter about Islam. If I was to put my psychology hat on, I'd have a freakin field day with apostates - so much to write about!

You know what, one day I'ma write me a book!
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It's probably because of all the hassle they have had in leaving.
They lose family, they lose freinds, they feel alone and abandoned, they get insults, they get threats and they know that they are wanted dead by a lot of their ex-brothers and sisters.

That might be some ground for feeling a bit of resentment!
 
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glo said:
Perhaps that comes with the territory, when leaving Islam has caused the apostate hurt and grief?
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barney said:
It's probably because of all the hassle they have had in leaving.
They lose family, they lose freinds, they feel alone and abandoned, they get insults, they get threats and they know that they are wanted dead by a lot of their ex-brothers and sisters.
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Funny thing is, the so called apostates never ever mention this side (maybe because they aren't actually apostates!) Theyy just say: ''oh I'm an exmuslim and now I'm going to expose Islam'' yadda yadda bull crap. We had one on LI about a year ago. All his posts contained anti-islamic comments, it was difficult to take any of them seriously.
Is it not all the more reason to treat apostates with love, respect and charity?
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I guess so. But you get reasonable apostates who actually don't care say anything about Islam because they are no longer muslim anymore - which I have no problem with (these are also known as the silent majority!). It's only the ones who turn around and say: ''Islam sux, I know cus I was a muslim once''. Or in simpler terms, the mouthy ones who don't actually know a blind bit about Islam but seeing as they used to be muslim whatever their comments about Islam are must be true, because hey, an ex-muslim is always going to know more about Islam than an actual muslim(!)

That might be some ground for feeling a bit of resentment!
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I understand that. But it many of the cases I have seen/heard, it just sounds like nothing more than delusions of grandeur, social insecurity and mesionic syndromes. ''Hey look Islam says rape your slaves. How disgusting. I used to be a muslim so clearly it must be the truth!'' says exmuslim 666 on an islamic forum.

Again, nothing against apostates in general. Just that if you were a real apostate your mind would no longer be occupied with that religion. If it is, you're simply in a state of confusion - which is evidently not the same as apostacy.

(note: there is absolutely no truth in that example whatsoever. It is simply for illustration purposes to expose how stupid certain arguments of apostates actually are. There are a plethora of other lame comments I have heard from ''apostates'' - they can all be refuted by my 11 year old brother!)
 
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aamirsaab said:
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I have no problems with apostates. What gets on my nerves is that these so called muslim apostates always seem to be so bitter about Islam. If I was to put my psychology hat on, I'd have a freakin field day with apostates - so much to write about!

You know what, one day I'ma write me a book!
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Lets write a book together. Apostates and Converts. You write about apostates, and I'll write about converts. :)

And Izyan, thank you for your contribution to the board and try not to get distracted by our resident troll.
 
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Pygoscelis said:
Lets write a book together. Apostates and Converts. You write about apostates, and I'll write about converts. :)
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Well I was originally going to go for apostates and homosexuals. Which'd leave you with converts and hetros.

:p.
 
Pygoscelis said:
Lets write a book together. Apostates and Converts. You write about apostates, and I'll write about converts. :)

And Izyan, thank you for your contribution to the board and try not to get distracted by our resident troll.
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It doesn't bother me I've encountered a lot worse. By the way can I take nymphomaniacs and binge drinkers?
 
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Izyan said:
Reading is fundamental. I know the black rock is said to come from heaven and it first came to earth it was white. It became black when it absorbed the sins of man. Muslims don't worship the rock the they try to kiss it as Muhammed did. Now to someone outside of Islam it looks like you guys worship a giant moon rock like it look like Chistians worship 3 seperate people when we actually worship 1. Like I said be careful at what you mock because your beliefs might be next.
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'looks like' and actually is, are two seperate things..
any superficial reading can dispel away the myth of worshipping 'a stone' whereas you actually do worship three Gods, one of whom has died and was missing for three days.. Took a break from the universe to show up as a pauper in Nazereth..

That aside, I truly have my doubt that you were ever Muslim.. I have seen my share of evangels, especially during my travels, in places like Africa and Iraq, where your ilk pretend to have been Muslim and alas found the light in christianity.. luckily even the poorest of oafs were on to it.. Guess people would rather be atheists than paganists!

cheers
 
Skye Ephémérine said:
'looks like' and actually is, are two seperate things..
any superficial reading can dispel away the myth of worshipping 'a stone' whereas you actually do worship three Gods, one of whom has died and was missing for three days.. Took a break from the universe to show up as a pauper in Nazereth..

That aside, I truly have my doubt that you were ever Muslim.. I have seen my share of evangels, especially during my travels, in places like Africa and Iraq, where your ilk pretend to have been Muslim and alas found the light in christianity.. luckily even the poorest of oafs were on to it.. Guess people would rather be atheists than paganists!

cheers
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Have I called anyone to Christ? Have I decried the evils of Islam? Have I even said what you worship was wrong? All I'm trying to say is your faith is your own. Don't make fun of mine and I won't make fun of yours.
 
Izyan said:
Have I called anyone to Christ? Have I decried the evils of Islam? Have I even said what you worship was wrong? All I'm trying to say is your faith is your own. Don't make fun of mine and I won't make fun of yours.
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That was delightfully sophmoric.. thanks :thumbs_up
 
Skye Ephémérine said:
That was delightfully sophmoric.. thanks :thumbs_up
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Hey, sister. I have read many of your replies and rebuttals on this website and have found them to be really good. That being said, In some of your posts like the ones above, your mocking tone is uncalled for. This is not to say that we cannot verbally retaliate but only to those who aggressively oppose us. There are other ways to point out flaws.

"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
 
AntiKarateKid said:
Hey, sister. I have read many of your replies and rebuttals on this website and have found them to be really good. That being said, In some of your posts like the ones above, your mocking tone is uncalled for. This is not to say that we cannot verbally retaliate but only to those who aggressively oppose us. There are other ways to point out flaws.

"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
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Thank you for your pointers akhi.. I use my best judgement when assessing who merits what kind of a reply..

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barney said:
Do you still have that pool of sharks and the white persian cat?
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I especially enjoy it when someone not only perpetuate a myth, but actually believes it :statisfie

If we are done digressing, we can either get back to topic or if it has reached the end of its value, then close all together!

cheers
 
barney said:
Err, Thats Theism!
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Err, that is atheism too..
you see in order to prove this one thing incorrect, you must prove its diametrical opposite correct.. so far none were able to do so..

cheers
 

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