Berlin Will Reinstate Opera Depicting Prophet Muhammad

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The director of Berlin's Deutsche Oper, criticized for canceling performances of an opera over concern that it may offend Muslims, said she will reinstate the production when security authorities give clearance.

Kirsten Harms told a panel debate at the opera house that she will bring back Hans Neuenfels's production of Mozart's "Idomeneo" once Berlin's Interior Ministry "gives a new assessment of the security situation."

The production's final scene shows a blood-spattered King Idomeneo carrying the severed heads of Poseidon, Jesus, Buddha, and Muhammad. Security officials warned Ms. Harms in August that the production presented an "incalculable security risk." The police have since said they received no concrete threat.

Ms. Harms's announcement on September 25 that she was canceling four November performances prompted criticism from politicians including Chancellor Merkel and Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble, who said the cancellation was a blow for artistic freedom and set a dangerous precedent.

Deutsche Oper will also ask a Berlin interior senator, Ehrhart Körting, for a "security concept" to protect the opera house's staff and audiences before reviving the Neuenfels production, Ms. Harms said. With 1,865 seats, Deutsche Oper is the biggest of Berlin's three opera houses and Germany's second largest.

"‘Idomeneo' can come back to the Deutsche Oper in the next few months,"Mr. Körting told the panel, admitting he had made a mistake in suggesting to Ms. Harms in August that she drop the opera from her program because it was a security risk.

http://www.nysun.com/article/40892
 
Salaam,

So,are they open,tolerant and respectful?

Here they are not asking for muslim views,do not itnend to ask for muslim views,just wish to DO IT.

they do not understand but from this it is clear that they do not understand anything save violence.

Inshallah,the Imams will go and tell them it is wrong,but will they listen?
No..
And when we react to tehir disrespect,we are the ones whom are at fault.

And i am sure like some in Germany,some moderate muslim,will say IT IS BUT ART.

Disrepect towards the Prophet is ART,thus Inshallah,in time when they allow ridicule for for the Prophet in time,they will say wearing the hijab or modestly is in the mind only,it is a concept,as is prayer and fasting.
 
Muezzin said:
This article just about sums up my feelings on this matter (BEWARE, contains one use of strong language, when quoting Theo Van Gough)
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Salaam,

Great article but it all sums up the western condescension to be sensitive towards muslim feelings.

They are doing for all teh wrong reason and cannot or will understand the menaing of respect.

Why simple...

casue they do not see muslim or Islam as equal to their lifestyle.

Condesending and belligerent,they assume that they have the right to respect or disrect us as they see fit.
they choose not to see us as equals but as uncivillized brutes who have no respect for their OPEN AND UNRESRAINED CIVILIZATION..

My question to them is,how opena dn urbane a civilization are you if you need to isnult and degrade another to learn or be enlightened?

Inshallah,i see this will go to the way of the caricatures,the german muslim will say STOP,they will be ignored and ridiculed and violence will ensues.

It cant be help,the western world do wish to talk but only on their terms and with their end being the result.

So how do wes top the cycle?
It can only be stopped by teaching them respect,for our religona dn for their own.
they are able to mock their reliogn,go ahead,for they already see little worth in it,and they assume reliogn is the casue of the world misery,,,YES THEIR RELIGON IS THE CASUE OF THE WORLD MISERY,and they want to see that all religon are the same....
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

So,are they open,tolerant and respectful?

Here they are not asking for muslim views,do not itnend to ask for muslim views,just wish to DO IT.

they do not understand but from this it is clear that they do not understand anything save violence.

Inshallah,the Imams will go and tell them it is wrong,but will they listen?
No..
And when we react to tehir disrespect,we are the ones whom are at fault.

And i am sure like some in Germany,some moderate muslim,will say IT IS BUT ART.

Disrepect towards the Prophet is ART,thus Inshallah,in time when they allow ridicule for for the Prophet in time,they will say wearing the hijab or modestly is in the mind only,it is a concept,as is prayer and fasting.
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Do muslim countries ask christians and Jews their views before they do things? Before you answer keep in mind the Holocaust cartoons and calls for the destruction of Israel.
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

Great article but it all sums up the western condescension to be sensitive towards muslim feelings.

They are doing for all teh wrong reason and cannot or will understand the menaing of respect.

Why simple...

casue they do not see muslim or Islam as equal to their lifestyle.

Condesending and belligerent,they assume that they have the right to respect or disrect us as they see fit.
they choose not to see us as equals but as uncivillized brutes who have no respect for their OPEN AND UNRESRAINED CIVILIZATION..

My question to them is,how opena dn urbane a civilization are you if you need to isnult and degrade another to learn or be enlightened?

Inshallah,i see this will go to the way of the caricatures,the german muslim will say STOP,they will be ignored and ridiculed and violence will ensues.

It cant be help,the western world do wish to talk but only on their terms and with their end being the result.

So how do wes top the cycle?
It can only be stopped by teaching them respect,for our religona dn for their own.
they are able to mock their reliogn,go ahead,for they already see little worth in it,and they assume reliogn is the casue of the world misery,,,YES THEIR RELIGON IS THE CASUE OF THE WORLD MISERY,and they want to see that all religon are the same....
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You are complaining about Muhammed but they are showing Isa and Budha beheaded also. You don't see buddhists and Christians ready to storm the place.
 
Torquemada said:
You are complaining about Muhammed but they are showing Isa and Budha beheaded also. You don't see buddhists and Christians ready to storm the place.
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Salaam,

And here lies the question of what import of reliogn to the other two.
Buddhist and Chrisitans?

Do they care for those that they claim to be divine?Or do they accept that mocekery and disrespect should a public.

Thus for them they have evolved casue they see the pointlessness of their own reliogn ,we muslim abide by it.
 
wilberhum said:
Is that because Budha & Isa don't represent a religion of peace?
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Salaam,

It is becasue in the current evoloution of Christianity and Buddha,it is passe to support their god from mockery and what not.

they once but now they understand the foolishness of their rleiogn and thus do not see the need to defend their faith.

For muslim we see and understand that the west do not wish diaogue,they want us to listen but we cant talk back...
 
Muezzin said:
This article just about sums up my feelings on this matter (BEWARE, contains one use of strong language, when quoting Theo Van Gough)
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An excellent opinon piece Muezzin. In theory I agree with it. Yet, I must say I do worry about this slippery slope of self-censorship on Islam. Especially considering that the aim of many is obvious, the (re)instatement of anti-blashpemy laws.

The message of the opera author was clear: he wanted to show that to him God is dead. That is an opinion, and that is also art. It is supposed to be free of nuance and be thought-provoking.

It appears to be a consequence of globalisation. All of a sudden we have an Islamic world that is coming in touch with much of the views and methods of debate in the West, both through immigration and new technologies, and not liking it. All of a sudden it becomes our problem what some guy in Islamabad thinks of a cartoon in Denmark.

This is all just so frustrating. :heated:
 
Salaam,

I ownder,obviously the actors and writes of the pay are not muslim,so we can assume that most of those involved are Christians/catholics.,....what do they say about this pay...about the mockery of their faith.

Is it like going to church once a week,or for buddhist to go to temple when they feel like it?

So again it is simple,why do you mock your own reliogn and think you can mock ours?

so again i ask,just becasue you ahve lost your faith and trust in your own religon,why do you assume it of us?
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

It is becasue in the current evoloution of Christianity and Buddha,it is passe to support their god from mockery and what not.

they once but now they understand the foolishness of their rleiogn and thus do not see the need to defend their faith.

For muslim we see and understand that the west do not wish diaogue,they want us to listen but we cant talk back...
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Or maybe Christianith and Buddha don't support violance in there name. (anymore)
 
Torquemada said:
Do muslim countries ask christians and Jews their views before they do things? Before you answer keep in mind the Holocaust cartoons and calls for the destruction of Israel.
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Salaam

wait ,,,did the Muslim in rian portray an Prophet in a bad light?

Or are yous aying that human being dead in the holocasut are worth reverence and worship?

If that is so,then trully i question your alignement of faith.

And the caricatures are a challenge toward denmark and the western world...Their freedom of speech,it show that THEY LIMIT THEMSELVES TO WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM,,but they do not care about what is important to others.

It smacks dab of hyprocrisy

As for the destruction of Israel,why not?Is it wrong?
to destroy a country that oppress and murder and torture hundered of thousand of human beings?
Unless of course you love such coutnry?
 
wilberhum said:
Or maybe Christianith and Buddha don't support violance in there name. (anymore)
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Salaam,

wow really.i guess that is the current interpretation of the chrisitan and buddhist reliogn.

I ma glad you realise that and put (anymore) casue then we shall see a resurgence of the christian doctorine to defend Jesus..

Care to watch Jesus Camp...or do you think they are wrong?

Muslim jsut ask to respect our faith,is that so hard?
why?
 
Some people just hate "Freedom of Speach", "Freedom of Thought", and "feedom in General". For me, I love my freedoms, even if it gives you the freedom to insult me, my famly, and my god.
 
wilberhum said:
Some people just hate "Freedom of Speach", "Freedom of Thought", and "feedom in General". For me, I love my freedoms, even if it gives you the freedom to insult me, my famly, and my god.
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Salaam

where is respect in your world?

Or dont you have it?
Do you have no inhibitions?
Do you have no limits?
Do you have no shame?
Do you have no tolerance?
Do you have no kindness?


I guess that becasue you think that this is freedom to hate,to ridicule,to despise,,,that it comes natural to others.

All i cna say is the world you say speak much about your person not about other..
and that is why the arrogance why the WEST DOES NOT RESPECT>
 
I guess that becasue you think that this is freedom to hate,to ridicule,to despise,,,that it comes natural to others.
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It is natural as violance. Does violance come naturaly to you?
 
:sl:

Of course Islam promotes a freedom,But Islam promotes the type of responsible freedom.A freedom that respect the others, and respects the guidelines of the Islamic law. It is a type of public freedom,priority to the other peoples right, not the selfish individualistic freedom. Abusing your own self, others family, others wealth, and others society is not the real freedom. Freedom is based on the principle of no harm, no harm to your own self, and the others.Obviously the western definition of freedom are totally could harm someone.When others peoples get harm in the name of freedom,art,science or whatever,we call it violation.
 
wilberhum said:
Some people just hate "Freedom of Speach", "Freedom of Thought", and "feedom in General". For me, I love my freedoms, even if it gives you the freedom to insult me, my famly, and my god.
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I'll believe this freedom of speech brouhaha when they stop imprisoning revisionist scholars. I wonder why they dont show a jew being beheaded... and in Germany of all places...freedom of speech my foot.
 
Hawa said:
I'll believe this freedom of speech brouhaha when they stop imprisoning revisionist scholars. I wonder why they dont show a jew being beheaded... and in Germany of all places...freedom of speech my foot.
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It is not my problem if you can't recognize the difference between freedom of speach and your foot. :giggling:
 

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